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Just curious, seems like a lot of us on another thread - how many of us have been abused as kids?

83 replies

OneLieIn · 01/07/2008 20:49

Just curious, it seems like everyone was saying they had been abused as kids - have we all been through this together?

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Squirdle · 09/07/2008 13:34

I am incredibly protective of my sons, to the point where I won't even let DH shout at them. I know it all stems from my childhood, a physically and mentally abusive mother and a sexually abusive grandfather.

I need DH to understand why I feel like I do about my children. No-one protected me (in fact I protected my younger brothers and sister) no-one cared for me like I care for my boys, so I have to protect them. Unfortunately I am probably over protective. Not so much that I don't let them do things (DS1 is 14 and very independent) but more that I worry so much about them. DH gets cross if they shout at each other, if they (as DS2 can sometimes) get over emotional about something, but I want them to display these emotions and not have to supress them as I had to. I want them to be normal happy children.

I don't really know why I am typing this. I've had a difficult week, having nightmares about my children being abducted etc and I have my support group on Friday which always makes me wobble a bit.

I suppose what I am trying to say is that if you feel like I do about what has happened to you, then I believe you are very unlikely to want the same for your children. You know what some people can do and you would make damn sure your children wouldn't go through that.

ActingNormal · 09/07/2008 13:44

Skippythedog, what happened to you doesn't have to be 'worse' for you to talk about it, it was still wrong and has affected you. A lot of the bad affect comes from the shame you feel I think, irrespective of how much they did. That intensely uncomfortable feeling when they did it, that it was wrong and not what a relative is supposed to do to you and not what an adult is supposed to do to a child. If you knew at the time that it was not right then they, being older, would have also known that what they were doing was wrong, but did it anyway. It is them who should feel the shame not you. By saying something now, it helps to shift the shame from you to them, because why should you keep it secret - you did nothing wrong, they did.

When someone who is supposed to care for you and look after you and protect you invades your personal boundaries and uses you by doing something to get sexual pleasure from you (something which an adult should only do to another adult if they give an obvious sign of consent) your trust gets broken. It is hard to trust others after that betrayal. I also felt that there must be something really wrong with me for people to think they could do that to me. I'm trying to unlearn this. There is nothing wrong with us, they were just sick. It is them who have something wrong with them.

stellaumbrella · 09/07/2008 13:55

I was abused by a a female friend who was only a couple of years older than me, from when I was very young to about 10.

Didn't really think of it as abuse until recently, just thought it was a wierd, totally humiliating friendship. I won't share this with anyone else, just good to get it off my chest.

ActingNormal · 09/07/2008 14:09

Squirdle, I really identify with your post. I am really anxious about my children's welfare as well and worried about making them suppress their emotions the way my parents made me. I watch the grandparents like a hawk when they are with them and feel like I am probably being unfair to think they might do something but I couldn't bear it if something was happening and I didn't notice and for some reason the children didn't tell me.

I have a problem knowing where to draw the line with the kids expressing themselves. I don't want to shut them up every time they show a strong emotion so that they suppress it all and cause health problems for themselves and become scared to talk to me about things, but when I don't they cry and scream and go bonkers for ages until it makes me really angry. DH doesn't stand for it and threatens them with a consequence if they don't be quiet immediately. What is the right balance? I suppose we should say something like "Are you feeling angry/upset/disappointed etc about x?" to teach them the language they need to talk about how they feel rather than going bonkers, then let them cry and rage for a certain amount of time but not too long, then say that is enough now, please stop and calm down otherwise x consequence/punishment.

skippythedogfromthesea · 09/07/2008 14:18

Acting - I am no expert but I think the most important thing of all for us to do is to model good behaviour and set a better example than many of our own parents did.

Thanks for your kind words about my own past.
I am so envious of people who just have a regular relationship with their parents. I can't get on properly with my dad now even though I try not to think of all the childhood stuff - somehow I just can't relate to him. I told my mum recently that if it weren't for her I wouldn't see him. I don't love him. Hardly surprising really is it! He's still a t*er now.

Squirdle · 09/07/2008 14:21

The way I deal with it is to for example, if DS2 (5) is having a meltdown about something and won't calm down, I sit him somewhere quiet, let him get it out of his system and then talk to him about it/give him a cuddle etc. I have to say, he does it way more if DH is around which doesn't really help matters, but DH will stand in front of him ranting (having a tantrum himself ) and therefore makes it all so much worse. Yes children need boundries and need to know that some behaviour is not acceptable, but they also need to express themselves and know it's ok to do that. I understand DS2, I just 'get' him iyswim. So I deal with his meltdowns accordingly.

billysitch · 10/07/2008 15:27

I was abused emotionally and physically by my mother and physically by my father.

I have forgiven my father, he has moved on and changed to a huge extent, especially since him and my mother split in 88. I think he has realised how wrong he was but his father used to beat him constantly and I guess it followed, mum and dad were very young when I was born.

The last time I saw my mother (in May) she physically and verbally abused me, but this time she did it in front of my 3 year old son. This has turned out to be a turning point for me, I now realise that she will never change. More importantly for years I thought I was the worthless, stupid, useless child that ruined her life, I now know I have risen above it, and although it has taken me 37 years to become strong enough to deal with her, I have done it with the help of my husband and friends.

My son used to ask everyday, sometimes twice, can I phone Grandma mummy, since the incident, he has not even mentioned her name or her dogs name who he adores.

I feel pity for her, she needs help and has done for many years. That's all I really wanted to say.

cyteen · 10/07/2008 16:09

This thread is simultaneously one of the most depressing and one of the most uplifting things I have ever read Uplifting in the sense that so many wronged children have grown into such strong and thoughtful adults, but really grim that so many horror stories have been perpetrated in the first place.

I think I was abused as a child, but it's all rather hazy and undefined, in that there are few clear incidents I can point to and say with certainty "Yes, that was abusive". An older cousin mentally/emotionally abused me from when I was very young to when I was about 12; god knows what made him hate me so much, but his bullying made me hate myself and also made me intensely fearful of letting people see my emotions, as in my experience they would then be used as weapons against me. So I was pretty fucked up in terms of being a deeply self-loathing/defensive-aggressive teen, which didn't set me up well for my mum's sudden suicide and all the guilt that brought with it.

Other things are less clear...I remember lots of sexual situations with other children, but some were consensual (doctors and nurses type play) and others were not, and when you're a kid it's quite hard to distinguish to yourself and others why something feels different. But looking back on them, I know that some were wrong and have affected me.

My grandfather, who died last week (hooray!), was a horrible, manipulative, controlling egomaniacal bastard and spent his whole life poisoning the lives of those around him...again, extremely abusive in emotional and mental terms. I won't go into details as would be here all day, but one incident sticks in my mind as far as my own experience goes. He used to babysit my brother and me on a Sunday, but would often do things like fuck off down the pub and leave us in the flat on our own. On one of these occasions, while looking for something to do, we stumbled across a stash of porn films and being curious children ended up watching some - the one I remember was The Story of O. Think I was about 6 or 7. Later I remember my mum having to ask me whether grandfather had been abusing me - I'd obviously been talking about what we'd seen, or talking in a sexualised manner because of it.

He also violated my trust in a really horrible way shortly after my mum's death, when I was at my most vulnerable, and then used what he'd found out to inflict a shameful guilt and fear on me that I carried around for many years, until I realised that I didn't need to, that he was the wrong one and not me.

He never did abuse me physically, I don't think, but there's no doubt that he was utterly obsessed with me and would do things like have a massive go at me if he thought I'd been flirting with boys (this when I was 10 ffs, as if the idea had even occurred to me then!) It was things like this that eventually led to me cutting all contact with the vile old man several years ago - I knew I wanted to start a family and felt very strongly that a new generation should be allowed to flourish without his staining influence over them. I'm due to have my first child next month and frankly my grandfather dying now is the first decent thing he's ever done in my lifetime.

So overall I am left wondering if there was more, if there is something I can't remember. Or if not, whether all the half-remembered incidents can really add up to me feeling as troubled as I do about certain things.

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