Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Husband dropped a bombshell

303 replies

Sadandneedahug · 31/05/2026 21:38

Hi all. I need a hug and a handhold and any advice. I’ve been on MN for years but I’ve name changed for this.

Apologies if this ends up being really long, I’ll try to include everything.

In February of this year, my husband of 15 years told me we needed to work on things as he was feeling unhappy. We had a chat, both made a list of things we needed to do, and the lists were very similar. We were doing really well for a couple of weeks but then he had to go abroad for 3 weeks for work and when he came back he was quite poorly for a couple of weeks.

When he recovered (so about a month ago), told me he still wasn’t happy and wanted to leave.

We have two children aged 11 & 10.

He’s told me he hasn’t been happy for some time, and that he feels like we’ve grown apart. Says we live like co-parents and friends rather than a married couple. He says he doesn’t love me anymore, but still cares about me and will always love me as the kids mother.

He says he has tried for years to make an effort. However in my mind I’ve not seen this. We’ve had good times, great holidays and I think we’ve been happy. He’s been quiet and withdrawn over the last year - I asked if he was ok, and he always replied with ‘I’m fine’ or ‘stressed with work’. He has a stressful job so I believed him. I even said to him last year that I was worried I was losing him. He said absolutely not. After our chat in February this year, I asked if we were going to be ok - answer was yes. He acknowledged it would take hard work but would try his best.

I was quite poorly for 12-18 months in 2024/25 and the best I could do was to the bare minimum every day and no more. Due to this our sex life has dwindled. I also struggled when the kids were young with post natal depression, struggled with being a stay at home mum even though that’s what I wanted. I did end up going to work for a couple of days a week just to feel like me again.

Our house needs a fair bit of work and he says that gets him down. It frustrates me as well but I try to not nag him about it as I know how busy and stressed he is/was. We made a list of things that needed done and who would do them to break it down into easier chunks.

He wants to still be around, have a key for the house and come and go whenever if I’m ok with that. He’ll still help with kids, activities etc, DIY around the house and basically to let him know whenever I need some help. If I want him around to help with breakfasts/dinners/school runs he says he’ll do it. He also says we can still go on family holidays too.

He says he feels really guilty for doing this, but is feeling depressed, miserable, not himself and would rather put everyone through the pain now rather than waiting for years to come and do it then. He says doing it now will make our relationship better and his relationship with the kids better. He says he doesn’t hate me.

He is a fantastic dad.

I’m confused. Before he went on his work trip he told me he loved me. Loads of messages towards the end of last year saying he loved me. We had plans to move house in a few years, in March we booked a holiday for December. We had plans to start a new business together and the wheels were in motion for that - it’s easy enough to stop it though. It was all long term stuff.

I admit I’ve gotten pretty comfortable and just sailing through life, getting things done, going to work etc. Yes we probably have neglected each other. We’ve never had much alone time as we don’t have any childcare options. I have exploded at times with the lack of help around the house - cleaning, cooking, household chores etc. It got better for a week or so after each explosion and then went back to ‘normal’. However this past month I’ve never had so much help! He’s taking the bins out, making dinners, emptying the dishwasher, making the kids packed lunches. I don’t know if that’s just guilt. He’s also just redecorated our youngests bedroom - something he’s been saying he’d do since last year.

I know he’s had an individual counselling session. With all he has going on at work and at home she told him she’s surprised he hasn’t had a nervous breakdown. I’ve been seeing a solution based hypnotherapist to help with my confidence levels as I was struggling before all of this happened. I was beginning to get to a good place until this happened.

He has agreed to go to couples counselling to talk it through as we keep going over the same things and end up arguing. He says it won’t change anything but then says he’ll be honest and see what the counsellor says. I have no experience with this so I’m a bit worried about what will happen at these sessions. Do I say all of this to a counsellor?

I’m not blameless. I’m not trying to make excuses with my health problems and my issues when the kids were tiny. I could’ve given him more attention. I should’ve pushed it when he went quiet last year but I left him at his short answers.

I’ve asked him if there’s someone else, and he says no. I do believe him.

Thank you if anyone has read all of this, sorry it’s so long. I don’t even know what I’m asking for. I don’t want to split up. I still love him. I feel like a failure and I’m so embarrassed. I feel like an idiot. I cry every day. He says I need to talk to someone rather than keep torturing myself about it on my own. I’ve told very few people because of feeling like such a failure. I can’t even face his parents (who are furious with him) and they’re lovely people. I just don’t know how I can get othrough this. I can’t imagine my life without him - I feel like my whole future has gone.

OP posts:
IWasTangoed · 01/06/2026 01:30

Loreleily · 01/06/2026 00:14

Is that what he’s suggested?? Sounded to me like he wanted to try and keep a semblance of family. Rightly or wrongly.

Beljeve me I am not here to defend cunty men. And there are many of them out there. But nothing op has written has suggested her ex is one of them. Sounds like a person not really knowing the right thing to do and muddling through to me.

I don't know if there is another woman, but if a man makes a decision to end a long term marriage, secure new accommodation elsewhere, see his children whenever he wishes (rather than whenever they need him), then he is not 'muddling through'. He has a plan he is confident with and that will put him first.

The advice given to the OP is 100% sound. He has emotionally ended things with her, but expects her to see him in her living space as and when he feels like it. He has not demanded 50/50 care of the children or pledged equal financial support for them. Thete is no reassurance that he will do any of the mundane stuff for them (but there is a vague promise of a possible future holiday apparently 🙄). They don't factor in his wishes. Regardless of whether there is another woman, he is 100% doing what he wants in a selfish way at the cost of the OP and his own kids

momtoboys · 01/06/2026 01:34

Oh, dear. You are lovely for thinking of his happiness. Please, please brace yourself for when he tells you about the other woman. You need to think of you and your kids. Get your finances in shape. Do not let him call all of the shots.

Lampzade · 01/06/2026 01:39

As others have said
There is another woman .

Loreleily · 01/06/2026 01:53

IWasTangoed · 01/06/2026 01:30

I don't know if there is another woman, but if a man makes a decision to end a long term marriage, secure new accommodation elsewhere, see his children whenever he wishes (rather than whenever they need him), then he is not 'muddling through'. He has a plan he is confident with and that will put him first.

The advice given to the OP is 100% sound. He has emotionally ended things with her, but expects her to see him in her living space as and when he feels like it. He has not demanded 50/50 care of the children or pledged equal financial support for them. Thete is no reassurance that he will do any of the mundane stuff for them (but there is a vague promise of a possible future holiday apparently 🙄). They don't factor in his wishes. Regardless of whether there is another woman, he is 100% doing what he wants in a selfish way at the cost of the OP and his own kids

I assume it’s his home too. And considering op is a SAHM it’s one he pays for. Deciding to leave a marriage does not mean deciding you don’t want any of your assets anymore ffs. He doesn’t need to leave a house he’s paying for. TOGETHER they need to work out what works best for them as two co parents

ThatBlackCat · 01/06/2026 02:48

Loreleily · 01/06/2026 01:53

I assume it’s his home too. And considering op is a SAHM it’s one he pays for. Deciding to leave a marriage does not mean deciding you don’t want any of your assets anymore ffs. He doesn’t need to leave a house he’s paying for. TOGETHER they need to work out what works best for them as two co parents

And considering op is a SAHM it’s one he pays for.

Christ... You're posts are very misogynistic but this one has jumped the shark.

kiwigrandma · 01/06/2026 03:02

Hi OP/Sad&NeedAHug. I'm sending you a hug & love! First of all - your life/future isn't over by any means - I would recommend talking to a counsellor about your concerns/worries about your husband leaving to live elsewhere. All the offers-of-help with your children from your husband sounds quite selfish - meaning I will support you from afar but not in our home together. So, all you can do in my opinion is to 'soldier' on as a single parent & accept his help when needed - though "begin your life again" without having a husband. Take your time - as I have been married for 41yrs to my husband (we have 2 grown daughters, son-in-laws & grandchildren!) & so, I haven't been in your position - I can only empathise with you. Also, I do know if my husband told me he didn't love me anymore I would have to move forward with my own life & yes it would hurt so much for a while - though over time it will get better for you, OP. Focus on your adoring children & your work & extended family & friends & take care of yourself & your children! Best wishes from, Kiwi Grandma x

Lovethystupidneighbour · 01/06/2026 03:07

Reading these comments I’m not sure there’s ever a “right” way for a man to leave without being accused of an affair lol.

ThatBlackCat · 01/06/2026 03:13

Lovethystupidneighbour · 01/06/2026 03:07

Reading these comments I’m not sure there’s ever a “right” way for a man to leave without being accused of an affair lol.

99% of the time it's an affair. That's just a fact. Men do not up and leave their own home and family unless they have something to go to. That, is also fact.

TheChicDreamer · 01/06/2026 03:27

My sister’s exh did this. Gas lit her into thinking it was a ‘her’ problem. Told her to have therapy. Told her he was confused and needed space. Told her he loved her and was lovely and kind one minute and then cold and distant the next. My poor sister didn’t know which way was up by the end. Agonised over every possible mistake she could have made.

Turned out he was simply shagging someone else. Fucking prick.

kiwigrandma · 01/06/2026 03:39

Hi Lovethystupidneighbour & TheBlackCat! It isn't always an affair here is a link to "having a midlife crisis" as follows.... https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/midlife-crisis/

Also, OP, hopefully this info will be some help/insight into your husband's change in behavior which I'm sure a counsellor can navigate through as well with you both together or separate for some understanding & support.
Love from, Kiwi Grandma x

DeepRubySwan · 01/06/2026 03:45

"I was quite poorly for 12-18 months in 2024/25 and the best I could do was to the bare minimum every day and no more. Due to this our sex life has dwindled. I also struggled when the kids were young with post natal depression, struggled with being a stay at home mum even though that’s what I wanted. I did end up going to work for a couple of days a week just to feel like me again."

This is the reason. Unless you are with an asexual man, someone who is cheating or who is gay then if sex goes out the window, he no longer sees it as a relationship. Shit isn't it? I am so sorry. But I think that is your explanation. Unsure whether you can rekindle sexually but it sounds like he out the door anyway and I would just accept it at this point. As the Japanese saying goes 'missing a bus is only painful if you run after it'.

ThatBlackCat · 01/06/2026 03:50

kiwigrandma · 01/06/2026 03:39

Hi Lovethystupidneighbour & TheBlackCat! It isn't always an affair here is a link to "having a midlife crisis" as follows.... https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/midlife-crisis/

Also, OP, hopefully this info will be some help/insight into your husband's change in behavior which I'm sure a counsellor can navigate through as well with you both together or separate for some understanding & support.
Love from, Kiwi Grandma x

Affairs most often happen during midlife crisis. The two go together.

99% of the time it's an affair. That's the fact and reality.

piscofrisco · 01/06/2026 04:00

Sadandneedahug · 31/05/2026 22:02

Thank you all for reading and replying so quickly. I honestly honestly don’t think he has someone else.

I think I need support from him rather than the other way around. He is getting help from a counsellor and from friends whereas I’m bottling it up.

I didn’t think mine had. Wouldn’t have ever believed it actually. He did.
men rarely leave a relationship without anywhere else to go (or at least the thought of it).

That said it’s almost immaterial. He wants out. But he also wants a half life where he gets all the nice bits of being married but to do what he wants the rest of the time. Which effectively prevents you from ever being able to recover and move on.
You need to find your anger. He’s checked out-ok. But he doesn’t then get to be some sort of pop in dad and husband when it suits him and you need to firmly tell him that. Don’t beg or do the pick me dance. But think about how you want life to look on your own terms-accepting that, sadly, (and im so sorry op because I know it hurts), that isn’t going to include the continuation of your marriage.

kiwigrandma · 01/06/2026 04:04

Hi TheBlackCat & thank you for your message! To You & OP & All - well then on a personal level 20yrs ago my marriage was in the 1% where there wasn't another woman. The OP says she believes her husband & so if he is being truthful he will be in the 1% as well. I didn't leave (refused to actually) as I hadn't done anything wrong & we had a teenage daughter when this happened. Present time - we are still happily married after 41yrs together! Cheers; KiwiG x

AImportantMermaid · 01/06/2026 04:09

A councillor wouldn’t use the expression ‘nervous breakdown’. If anything they’d call it a ‘mental health crisis’.

You’ve been fed The Script and I’d put £10 on him having an affair - either physical or emotional - but he’s having an affair.

Broken12 · 01/06/2026 04:10

@Sadandneedahug im sorry you’re going through this, it sounds very similar to my story.

April 23 my husband told me he loved me but wasn’t in love with me anymore but with time hoped it would come back but didn’t want to do anything to force it. We had a 3 month old and 3 year old and I’d just recovered from birth (ended up in intensive care). We also had 2 miscarriages trying for our 2nd and our sex life had become focused on conceiving. I finally managed to get him to agree to couples counselling but like yours he said he was convinced it wouldn’t change anything.

I spent a year trying to prove to him I was worth loving- it was a horrible year from my point of view, always questioning myself. Maybe it if I do this he’ll fall back in love with me etc. April 24 I asked him if he was even trying and he admitted he wasn’t.

like yours, he was wanted to stay living together but have seperate lives. I couldn’t do that- he moved out Sept 24 (waited until my eldest started school). 8 months later he was dating the person I was suspicious of…I’ll never know if he was as cheating or not.

Only you can decide what to do. I will say the year I spent trying to prove myself was probably the worse of my life in terms of my self confidence and enjoyment but at the same time I know I did everything to save my marriage.

we are officially divorced now and yes, it took a while but I am genuinely really happy now. When you take those rose tinted glasses off you see thinks how they really were.

try and take one day at a time and look after yourself. X

WhatNextImScared · 01/06/2026 04:29

He wants to come and go, hang out with his kids when he chooses, go on family holiday but still lives separate single life so he never has to actually care for the kids in his own home 30-50 per cent of the time? Get to fuck!!

I know you don’t want to separate so go into the counselling with an open heart. He says he will do the same but suspects it won’t change things. Fine, but if it doesn’t change his view then if he’s leaving he’s going to have a clean break and actually care for his kids without your support for at least part of every week. He doesn’t get to do all the fun bits and park the rest on you and jolly off into the sunset

CottonCandyLand · 01/06/2026 04:49

Loreleily · 01/06/2026 01:53

I assume it’s his home too. And considering op is a SAHM it’s one he pays for. Deciding to leave a marriage does not mean deciding you don’t want any of your assets anymore ffs. He doesn’t need to leave a house he’s paying for. TOGETHER they need to work out what works best for them as two co parents

She went back to work through choice.

echt · 01/06/2026 04:55

Lovethystupidneighbour · 01/06/2026 03:07

Reading these comments I’m not sure there’s ever a “right” way for a man to leave without being accused of an affair lol.

Had he offered her the key to his new place, with the concomitant drop in as and when, i.e. exactly what he wants from her, then his not having an affair might work.

But he hasn't.

Clarabell77 · 01/06/2026 04:58

Thiswasanescapeplan · 31/05/2026 22:02

Cynical old me thinks the new proactive him is also an act to look like dad of the year to the opposing counsel if this were to get messy later.

Or a guilty conscience

Clarabell77 · 01/06/2026 05:01

clapyourhandsifyourworkingtoohard · 31/05/2026 22:34

I'm going to go against the general view and say I don't think there's someone else.

Our friends are going through similar except it was her who called time on thrir marriage. Nobody saw it coming, not her husband, their adult dc, wider family or friends.

Her reasoning was that she wants her time, they've been together since teens, so 25+ years.

Nobody else, just grown apart and ready to start a new chapter.

That’s a really unusual situation though, the usual scenario is they’ve cheated or they are paving the way to cheat.

Clarabell77 · 01/06/2026 05:06

Lovethystupidneighbour · 01/06/2026 03:07

Reading these comments I’m not sure there’s ever a “right” way for a man to leave without being accused of an affair lol.

That’s because so many of them do it. So many posts on here like this start with “I really don’t think there’s another woman” and a bit further down the line “it turns out there is another woman”.

MintyPig1989 · 01/06/2026 05:10

Sounds like he met someone else on these "trips".😞

Mumtobabyhavoc · 01/06/2026 05:16

He wants to come and go as he pleases, stay involved, holiday together, but not be a couple. He wants one foot in the family until he feels confident enough on his own and with someone else. Couples counselling for what? To draw out the husband's reasons for being unhappy? Help him feel better about himself leaving? Help him tell his wife the truth? Help her accept it's over?
Honestly, it sounds like he wasn't there for her when she was struggling; she has had to nag him to do his share for s long time; and she did the most anyway even when not well.
I'd split up.

lazyarse123 · 01/06/2026 05:23

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 31/05/2026 21:45

He’s cunt.

He wants to have a key and come and go whenever?

He wants a wife and a mistress and zero responsibility. That’s what he wants. He’s all ‘me, me, me’.

You can do far better.

These ‘men’ disgust me.

Sorry but this was my first thought too. All the benefit none of the hard yards.