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Husband dropped a bombshell

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Sadandneedahug · 31/05/2026 21:38

Hi all. I need a hug and a handhold and any advice. I’ve been on MN for years but I’ve name changed for this.

Apologies if this ends up being really long, I’ll try to include everything.

In February of this year, my husband of 15 years told me we needed to work on things as he was feeling unhappy. We had a chat, both made a list of things we needed to do, and the lists were very similar. We were doing really well for a couple of weeks but then he had to go abroad for 3 weeks for work and when he came back he was quite poorly for a couple of weeks.

When he recovered (so about a month ago), told me he still wasn’t happy and wanted to leave.

We have two children aged 11 & 10.

He’s told me he hasn’t been happy for some time, and that he feels like we’ve grown apart. Says we live like co-parents and friends rather than a married couple. He says he doesn’t love me anymore, but still cares about me and will always love me as the kids mother.

He says he has tried for years to make an effort. However in my mind I’ve not seen this. We’ve had good times, great holidays and I think we’ve been happy. He’s been quiet and withdrawn over the last year - I asked if he was ok, and he always replied with ‘I’m fine’ or ‘stressed with work’. He has a stressful job so I believed him. I even said to him last year that I was worried I was losing him. He said absolutely not. After our chat in February this year, I asked if we were going to be ok - answer was yes. He acknowledged it would take hard work but would try his best.

I was quite poorly for 12-18 months in 2024/25 and the best I could do was to the bare minimum every day and no more. Due to this our sex life has dwindled. I also struggled when the kids were young with post natal depression, struggled with being a stay at home mum even though that’s what I wanted. I did end up going to work for a couple of days a week just to feel like me again.

Our house needs a fair bit of work and he says that gets him down. It frustrates me as well but I try to not nag him about it as I know how busy and stressed he is/was. We made a list of things that needed done and who would do them to break it down into easier chunks.

He wants to still be around, have a key for the house and come and go whenever if I’m ok with that. He’ll still help with kids, activities etc, DIY around the house and basically to let him know whenever I need some help. If I want him around to help with breakfasts/dinners/school runs he says he’ll do it. He also says we can still go on family holidays too.

He says he feels really guilty for doing this, but is feeling depressed, miserable, not himself and would rather put everyone through the pain now rather than waiting for years to come and do it then. He says doing it now will make our relationship better and his relationship with the kids better. He says he doesn’t hate me.

He is a fantastic dad.

I’m confused. Before he went on his work trip he told me he loved me. Loads of messages towards the end of last year saying he loved me. We had plans to move house in a few years, in March we booked a holiday for December. We had plans to start a new business together and the wheels were in motion for that - it’s easy enough to stop it though. It was all long term stuff.

I admit I’ve gotten pretty comfortable and just sailing through life, getting things done, going to work etc. Yes we probably have neglected each other. We’ve never had much alone time as we don’t have any childcare options. I have exploded at times with the lack of help around the house - cleaning, cooking, household chores etc. It got better for a week or so after each explosion and then went back to ‘normal’. However this past month I’ve never had so much help! He’s taking the bins out, making dinners, emptying the dishwasher, making the kids packed lunches. I don’t know if that’s just guilt. He’s also just redecorated our youngests bedroom - something he’s been saying he’d do since last year.

I know he’s had an individual counselling session. With all he has going on at work and at home she told him she’s surprised he hasn’t had a nervous breakdown. I’ve been seeing a solution based hypnotherapist to help with my confidence levels as I was struggling before all of this happened. I was beginning to get to a good place until this happened.

He has agreed to go to couples counselling to talk it through as we keep going over the same things and end up arguing. He says it won’t change anything but then says he’ll be honest and see what the counsellor says. I have no experience with this so I’m a bit worried about what will happen at these sessions. Do I say all of this to a counsellor?

I’m not blameless. I’m not trying to make excuses with my health problems and my issues when the kids were tiny. I could’ve given him more attention. I should’ve pushed it when he went quiet last year but I left him at his short answers.

I’ve asked him if there’s someone else, and he says no. I do believe him.

Thank you if anyone has read all of this, sorry it’s so long. I don’t even know what I’m asking for. I don’t want to split up. I still love him. I feel like a failure and I’m so embarrassed. I feel like an idiot. I cry every day. He says I need to talk to someone rather than keep torturing myself about it on my own. I’ve told very few people because of feeling like such a failure. I can’t even face his parents (who are furious with him) and they’re lovely people. I just don’t know how I can get othrough this. I can’t imagine my life without him - I feel like my whole future has gone.

OP posts:
bumptybum · 31/05/2026 22:58

User543211 · 31/05/2026 21:59

'He is a fantastic dad.'
But not good enough to realise that their care in terms of housework, cooking and cleaning, and let me guess, playdates, doctors appointments, school consent form etc, should have been half his load? And he thinks it falls to you because you're a woman/the mum?
Is he asking for 50/50 or is he suggesting the kids live with you and just pops in when he likes?

No, I suspect he thinks those things fall on her because he works full-time and a job that she acknowledges is very stressful and takes a lot of time up and she doesn’t.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 31/05/2026 22:59

Do some digging and you’ll soon find the cause of all of this… ie the other woman

Swizzel000 · 31/05/2026 23:00

100% he’s found someone else.
don’t give him a key. He can’t have his cake and eat it, cheeky prick

DreamyScroller · 31/05/2026 23:00

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 31/05/2026 21:45

He’s cunt.

He wants to have a key and come and go whenever?

He wants a wife and a mistress and zero responsibility. That’s what he wants. He’s all ‘me, me, me’.

You can do far better.

These ‘men’ disgust me.

Calm down love.

ServietteUnion · 31/05/2026 23:02

Cherchez l'homme imo. When there's another woman, the script usually involves more coldness and rewriting history. I think the guilt and kindness is saying something else. The pp are right either way though, OP. If he doesn't want to stay, you need a cleaner break than he's proposing or this will be agony for a long time to come. Very sorry this is happening to you.

moderate · 31/05/2026 23:02

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 31/05/2026 21:42

Did he tell you why he's unhappy? Is the relationship effectively sexless? Is there much emotional intimacy?

Do I say all of this to a counsellor?

Of course you do. What else would you tell them?

Franjipanl8r · 31/05/2026 23:03

He wants to still be around, have a key for the house and come and go whenever if I’m ok with that.

Sorry OP but you need to find your anger here. He’s taking you for an absolute mug!! No one in their right mind would be ok with that! If he wants to move out, he needs somewhere to live where he can have the kids 50% of the time. In his eyes you’re better off trapped in the house looking after children with no free evenings or time to yourself.

Iwanttobeafraser · 31/05/2026 23:03

I also think ge has an OW.

But, even if he doesn't. Lets look at this objectively....

Hes a fantastic dad but... you have had multiple instances of complete meltdowns about the labour split and nothing has changed? Plus hes the one who is apparently at risk of a nervous breakdown?

Hes a fantastic dad bur his practicalities post separation are about "helping" with breakfast and school run? What about worrying about how to tell the children? What about a conversation a oht whats best for them, and least confusing?

He wants to come and fo as he pleases? Has he discussed finances at all? Because thats the important bit. You are the primary carer, working part time. His concern should be your your financial future.

Hes offered to help with diy when needed? Except he has done fuck all of the existing diy while actually living there. How does he see this actually working when he has moved out?

Sex life has dwindled. I genuinely feel for him. but... you have been sick?! Ffs, what kind of a man isnt worrying more about your health?

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 31/05/2026 23:06

Sorry op, I agree its another woman. Likely whoever was on the work trip.
I had the same script.
It is absolutely pointless to try and resolve this with him at this point. If there is to be any reconciliation (if that's what you would like) it'll only come with a solid dose of reality. They can't reason at all whilst in the affair fog and rhe more you try the more you feed his ego, push hjm toward her (or worse, and very likely your devastation becomes a topic of their conversations), and you exhaust yourself.
He's trying not to be the bad guy to assuage his guilt.
Tell him OK then. How quickly are you moving? No key. Get a solicitor. Read chump lady's book

Crispynoodle · 31/05/2026 23:06

This happened to my DD her husband tried the ‘I don’t love you anymore’ to squirm his way out of a 20 year relationship. He was having an affair for a year. LTB

trythisforsize · 31/05/2026 23:08

He says he doesn’t hate me.

How fucking gracious of him.

LarksAscending · 31/05/2026 23:08

Sorry but no, he cannot come and go as he pleases when he doesn’t live there anymore.

PS5Gamer · 31/05/2026 23:09

He doesn’t sound like a good Dad, or a good Husband.

I think there’s someone else. Like fuck would I let him have a key, to come and go as he pleases!

LarksAscending · 31/05/2026 23:10

Also I haven’t had sex for a year because my husband is sick. It is what it is and we crack on because he’s not well so it’s fine. I love him and he’s in pain so who cares if I’m not getting my rocks off?

moderate · 31/05/2026 23:13

bumptybum · 31/05/2026 22:58

No, I suspect he thinks those things fall on her because he works full-time and a job that she acknowledges is very stressful and takes a lot of time up and she doesn’t.

I actually think the timing suggests there’s another woman but the reasoning in your comment deserves to be taken seriously nonetheless.

shuggles · 31/05/2026 23:13

Vinvertebrate · 31/05/2026 21:50

Cherchez la femme. And get ducks in a row.

Don't be ridiculous. It's very rare for a man to have two different women romantically interested in him at the same time.

Beenwhereyouareagain · 31/05/2026 23:15

I'm so sorry he's doing this to you, @Sadandneedahug. It's terribly unfair.

You say you don't believe he has anyone else and I hope for your sake you're right. But, if this were an AIBU, I think 100% of us would vote that it's unreasonable to think there's no one else in the picture. Not because anyone wants to hurt you, but because none of us wants you to be fooled into trusting everything he says.

The time for trust was before he decided he wants to be a single man with drop-in dad privileges. Let go of your emotions for a minute and use your head:

What are his actions telling you?
Who benefits from his plans?

Certainly not you and not the dc either. If your sister or daughter told you this story, what would your advice be? A healthy dose of cynicism could be your best friend right now.

He's not the man who made vows to you. Any obligation of trust he could expect from you ended when he changed the terms of your marriage contract. Put you and your kids first.

He's the one who's made a unilateral decision. But you have the right to make your own decisions. Put your feelings away for now, and find your anger. Use it with cold logic, and make plans for a safe and secure future for you and the DC.

Snaletrale · 31/05/2026 23:16

He can’t have his cake and eat it by coming and going. That wouldn’t be good for you or the kids- even if it sounds like it now.

Let him go, encourage him to work on himself and once he’s set free and sorted himself out, then maybe he’ll realise that he wants you.
But I wouldn’t hang around in the hope of that. Make a new life for yourself. It might be the best thing ever. let him go.

Thiswasanescapeplan · 31/05/2026 23:17

I think a few trollish randoms have found the thread

Justgorgeous · 31/05/2026 23:21

Someone went with him on that work trip.

trythisforsize · 31/05/2026 23:21

he’s had an individual counselling session. With all he has going on at work and at home she told him she’s surprised he hasn’t had a nervous breakdown

Councillors just don't speak like this. He has made this up to gain some sort of sympathy from you for his tale of 'woe is me'.

DinoDoughnut81 · 31/05/2026 23:25

Justgorgeous · 31/05/2026 23:21

Someone went with him on that work trip.

Definitely. Too much of a coincidence. Return from trip and then have the I'm unhappy chat. Even if nothing happened yet he wants freedom to pursue someone whilst keeping up appearances on the home front, having a key and popping in.

Rewis · 31/05/2026 23:26

Hell no. If he wants a divorce then he needs to get one. He can't have a key and come and go when he pleases. He basically wants a permission to date other women but still have minimal disruptions in his life. Doing the housework and redecorating will look good for the lawyers.

I'm really sorry this is happening to you. Do what is best for you, but don't think for second that you need to be grateful to him and accept crumbs.

Ladybird69 · 31/05/2026 23:29

Sorry but there’s another woman. Mine swore on our children’s lives that there wasn’t. But a year after he actually left he posted on fb about his and his girlfriend’s 2 year anniversary!

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 31/05/2026 23:34

He wants a key and to be involved in your life so he can control that you don't move on from him.

What a slimy piece of shit he is. You don't need his support at all. You're better off without him, he will just hang around like a bad smell.

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