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Advice on managing child arrangements with an ex making abuse allegations

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Changes26 · 10/05/2026 13:14

Looking for advice - posting here for hopefully more responses. I apologise in advance for this lengthy post. I’m trying to process it all still.

I split with my ex just before Christmas, following an incident where he came home drunk and was verbally abusive. I posted about it here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5472416-a-mess-advice-needed-next-steps

Fast forward to now and we have recently had a mediation session for child arrangements. I suggested alternate weekends and some week nights. All he asked for was flexibility so he could go down to London one weekend a month to see friends and family (but working around their schedule). I said a set routine would be better for our child but some flexibility is fine.

Things are strained. He communicates with me via WhatsApp but ignores me at handovers. He won’t make eye contact and once let our daughter come through the door on her own and he walked off. I brought this up at mediation and the mediator said it needs to be a positive environment at handover. He denied it all and said “you know why I can’t talk to you”. Anyway, an agreement was made for alternate weekends and he has her Monday night and then Monday and Tuesday night the following week. He refused for her to be picked up from school by my mum on his Tuesday. This has since changed because our daughter was so upset about not having her usual Tuesday routine. Fair play, he listened to her and we changed it. The only condition was he pick her up from my parents gate so avoid a handover in their home. They will be civil to him but would rather he not come in their house anymore (because of what happened).

Last week my ex asked to meet with me to discuss some things. I agreed but knew he’d be there to berate me, I naively planned to shut it down. It did not go well.

He said he has health problems caused by stress which was caused by our relationship and break up. He has said I was the abusive one and his therapist has helped him see that and unpacking it all has made him ill. Apparently I was jealous and I isolated him. He had to go to a&e last weekend for an infection and I took our daughter for the night (his weekend). I checked in on him and he said he could have her back the following afternoon. Apparently I didn’t care at all and he actually almost died.

He has said I was also financially abusive because he wasn’t on the water bill and I kept money from an energy bill rebate. He lived in my house rent free for 9 years. He was unemployed for a long time and I supported him. He has said I used the house to hang over his head and it was abusive.

He has questioned why I think he was abusive. His therapists and friends have said it was an unhealthy relationship and the incident where he was drunk was just an argument. He doesn’t believe I was scared. He has said he spoke to DA charities and they don’t think he was abusive. He said if I don’t move on and forgive him and I’m always ‘battling him’ like this then he will move down to London in September. He threatened to take me to court to change the child arrangements. I said I would do another mediation if he wanted to change arrangements. He wants to have our daughter one extra night a week now. He said he did want 50/50 but didn’t realise he could ask for it. He said he feels mediation is expensive and doesn’t work as I was confused which days we were doing after the session.

He has said I am clearly talking negatively about him as some of my friends and their kids blank him. This is not true as a couple of my friends know everything and we have had the conversation about if they can talk to him and I’ve said yes as everything needs to be normal and civil for my daughter and their children. My friends would never do this.

I discovered something about him the day after the incident. His laptop was open and I have had an inkling for a long time something was going as he had become withdrawn and cancelled days and evenings out with us as he was ill. I looked at his browser history and found loads of porn sites with interesting titles. He has also been accessing porn with trans women and gay porn. I confronted him and he said he was just doing it to get a dopamine hit. I said perhaps there was something about his sexuality he needed to explore and be honest with himself about. He said he has kissed a man before when he was younger and high on drugs. The man touched his penis and he got erect, then my ex stopped it. I was shocked as he’s never told me this. I don’t care if he’s gay or not, I do care that he was looking at porn so much and has since confessed to watching porn on the days and evenings he cancelled going out as a family. I don’t like porn and he knows this. He has now called me homophobic and has said I keep calling him gay and disgusting. I haven’t, I’ve simply said maybe you are gay/bi and in denial. He then got out a lgbt hate crime webpage and said I am now harassing him.

To be honest I was completely baffled by this whole conversation. I was calm throughout. He was so angry and accusatory but then would start saying “I’m sorry this isn’t how I wanted this conversation to go”. In the end I said, there’s no point talking anymore is there and he got angry and said I was smirking at him. His last words were: “is this what you said to your ex (my ex before him was also abusive. He threatened to kill me and would scream in my face etc.) Did you make that up too? I’m done protecting you.” and he walked off.

One hour later he messaged me with a new schedule and thanked me for being flexible. I feel like I have emotional whiplash.

I don’t know where to go from here. I really thought things were more settled but he’s not settled at all.

Does anyone have any advice or have been through a similar situation?

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OP posts:
Endofyear · 10/05/2026 13:43

He sounds like a nightmare OP, I wouldn't give any credence to his accusations - God knows what he's said to his therapist and he could well be lying about what his therapist said anyway!

I would tell him that from now on you're not going to go back over old ground with him, what's done is done and you need to move forward and do what's best for your daughter. Keep all and any discussion about childcare arrangements and refuse to engage with anything else. If he wants to take you to court or arrange further mediation, let him. Until then, keep to your custody agreement and engage with him as little as possible. He sounds like he's got plenty of personal issues to sort out and he's all over the place. None of that is your fault and you done amazingly to deal with him so calmly up to this point!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 10/05/2026 14:06

Just son't ever put yourself in a situation where you're alone with him again. The 'nice' message is so he can deny he was abusing you earlier that day.

Have you got a Ring Camera set up for the changeovers? Sounds like it could be a good idea if you don't.

PleaseVipersHelpMe · 10/05/2026 14:08

He doesn’t believe I was scared. He has said he spoke to DA charities and they don’t think he was abusive. He said if I don’t move on and forgive him and I’m always ‘battling him’ like this then he will move down to London in September. He threatened to take me to court to change the child arrangements.

So he’s minimising your feelings, bullying and threatening you and says that you are the problem? Whatevs.

Honestly please stop engaging. There is no way any DA charity would engage with a self centred loser trying to justify his actions. This and the vast majority of what he says is clearly bullshit. He us trying to make you doubt yourself so he can get his own way, don’t let him. Ignore him and crack on with your life and if he continues to ignore you, even better.

Changes26 · 10/05/2026 14:52

Thanks for the replies.

It’s just exhausting. I’m also stressed and my therapist actually recommended I do a DA victim programme - have I told my ex any of this? No. I focus on our daughter but I feel he’s being manipulative as always and trying to get me to agree to what he wants. I don’t think he’ll stop until I say “you’re right. You’re not abusive and I was. I forgive you.” I had gone with the intention to shut it all down and even rehearsed what to say with my therapist but I (naively) forgot how overbearing and persistent he is.

My whole stance has been we do what is best for our daughter. I just don’t know whether to say no to his extra night now and say it has to be through another mediation session or just say fine. We are due for another mediation session in July as he is going for a promotion which would involve more travel and more need for flexibility.

OP posts:
Myheadisgoingtoexplodeagain · 10/05/2026 14:57

Of course his friends and therapist have said his behaviour wasn’t abusive but that’s because he would have not told them about the abuse.

bigboykitty · 10/05/2026 15:20

Your ex is unstable, unreasonable and abusive. A regular and reliable schedule for contact is what's best for your DD And should be prioritised over his social life with friends and family. You are doing too much to accommodate him and try to be reasonable. He's exploiting this in order to continue to abuse you. He will never admit he's abusive and he will not change. You need to pare the communication back to essential communication about your DD only. Can you switch to a parenting app? Stop accommodating on all of his nonsense and prioritise what is best for your DD which is a regular contact schedule. You will end up in court with him anyway and court will likely order a schedule similar to what you already have but with no flexibility for his friend and family commitments. Finally, your ex is a massive liar. Do not believe anything he says about what other people think or believe about you or him. If they didn't say it to you directly, it didn't happen.

ThisJadeBear · 10/05/2026 18:05

Any decent therapist would not be ‘telling’ him anything.
They would listen to him, reflect back what he was saying, but no way would they be telling him he’d been abused, and all of the other bullshit he’s fed back to you.
It is all bullshit.
A psychotherapist cannot diagnose anything, nor can they medicate anything, they are not allowed to.
He is clearly struggling with his sexually and porn use and he’s taking it out on you.
He had the emotional maturity and intelligence of a wet bag of crisps.
It seems to on the match now, abusive men claiming they are being abused. Sold men are abused but astute therapists can smell manipulation a mile off.
I don’t have any answers, but the truth is on your side, as are your friends and loved ones.
I would call bullshit on everything this man says and I bet his friends are sick of him as well.

Unicornsandprincesses · 11/05/2026 12:51

I can tell you now. I see through all his BS and this all boils down to London, whatever/whoever is there.

the fact he wants to move to London (same as all he wanted was flexibility to go anytime his friends/family’s shifts allowed.

Whether it’s nightclubs, friends, new partner, drugs or something else enticing them down there, I don’t know

he’s angling for you to “blow up” so he can go guilt free and say you forced him into it

findingjoy22 · 12/05/2026 12:17

Changes26 · 10/05/2026 14:52

Thanks for the replies.

It’s just exhausting. I’m also stressed and my therapist actually recommended I do a DA victim programme - have I told my ex any of this? No. I focus on our daughter but I feel he’s being manipulative as always and trying to get me to agree to what he wants. I don’t think he’ll stop until I say “you’re right. You’re not abusive and I was. I forgive you.” I had gone with the intention to shut it all down and even rehearsed what to say with my therapist but I (naively) forgot how overbearing and persistent he is.

My whole stance has been we do what is best for our daughter. I just don’t know whether to say no to his extra night now and say it has to be through another mediation session or just say fine. We are due for another mediation session in July as he is going for a promotion which would involve more travel and more need for flexibility.

I completely understand how you feel. My situation is not identical but a lot of similiarities.

One thing is that i stopped listening and engaging with him about it. I just firmly repeat that we have two different ways of seeing what happened between us and he is entitled to his narrative, just as i am entitled to mine. I absolutely never try to convince him otherwise as this will waste my precious emotional resources.

A few precious rules i try to follow.

  1. no re-hashing the past. This applies also to me! i must follow it as well. If he tries to do it, i end the conversation, hang up the phone. end of conversation.

  2. I do not share any feeligns with him. If i am sad, overwhelmed, scared, worried about the kids, he cannot know abotu my internal emotional state. When i see him, i am always "fine". This applies also to his friends and family. i put up a wall for myself and keep things private. Of course, i do not ask the kids to keep secrets from him. However, i know if i say somethign to the kids, they might repeat it.

  3. avoid handovers entirely. This means on transition days, one person brings the kid to school in the morning, the other one picks up. There are very few instances like vacation times when we actually hand the kids over between us. This also means that we see each other less.

4). I learned the art of using exclamations and utterances when i do not know what to say back to him. Very non committal and avoids saying things like i am sorry (i.e. he would say i am admitting to xyz). So i say words like "mmm, ahh, i see," Very non committal and helps me seem like i am listening or whatever but without engaging too much.

  1. he is not allowed into my home. i fought hard for this one, as he applied full on pressure for years. he also pressured the kids into pressuring me to let him see the house. The house is fully mine since i bought it after the divorce. I do not want him inside my oasis. Anyway, this means that many times, i have to go out of my way to bring the kids to his house. Logisitically it burdens me and makes things more difficult but i do not care because i will not accept him into my home any more, full stop. i have the right to feel safe in my home and that is it.

  2. That brings me to a final one. I do not ask him for help with the kids as this puts me in a vulnerable position and he feels i am endebited to him. I will set up a babysitter, ask another mother, or literally skip things that i would like to do in order to always show up for my kids. This sucks since i am busy single working mom with no nearby family, and i am overburdened but at least i am protecting myself.

There are probably other things i have developed but these are like a code that i have developed in the last six years and i live by it. He has NOT changed, still a victim, still manipolative and always moulding and shaping the narrative. However, it has improved things for me and reduced the occasions on which he can go on and on for hours about all the ways i have wronged him and re-write history.

If he says he has a therapist, tell him (gently) that he can explore all these things with the therapist and that you are not the right person for him to be discussing these things with. (By the way, if you are an abusive person, clearly the therapist would nto suggest confronting his abuser, it makes zero sense)

Stay strong. The process of making him insignificant will make you a strong person.

findingjoy22 · 12/05/2026 12:29

"I just don’t know whether to say no to his extra night now and say it has to be through another mediation session or just say fine."

I made some mistakes thinking each time was an exception and then the exceptions became the rule. Very annoying. I suggest not giving into the requests in the hopes that they finally stop asking for more things.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 12/05/2026 15:49

Why are you giving him airtime?

You owe him nothing and nothing what he said or accuses you off is relevant anymore, your getting divorced, you speak about your child and nothing else.

His opinion and his sexuality are no longer your concern.

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