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Controlling MIL - what would you do?

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Solicitor123 · 18/03/2026 15:28

This will probably be a long one. I’ve been harbouring a lot of issues with my mother in law for nearly 10 years now. I think I am just about at the end of my tether, but first thought I’d reach out to hear generally what others think - is it me being too sensitive, am I overreacting/ being unfair, and what would you do?!

The background is that I met DH when we were at university together and we have been together ever since. We are now married with a 6 month old daughter.

My husband’s family are quite different to my own (my family is a typical nuclear family with 3 sisters) whereas his mum and dad broke up when he was younger and he has one brother. He used to be close to his brother, however the brother has unfortunately had a drug problem for many years (I will go into more detail below!).

I think my main issue with my MIL is her controlling nature and manipulation. So far, since knowing her, she has:

  • At the beginning of our relationship she would always call my husband fat and make fun of his clothes. She did it in a jokey way but anyone could tell he was uncomfortable. He is not fat at all by the way, quite the opposite. Once, when he was shopping for his wedding suit, she asked the sales assistant to tell my husband he shouldn’t wear that style because he looked fat in it.
  • As above, there have been multiple serious issues with BIL over the years and MIL has always lied to cover it up. He is a prescription drug addict and has spent time in rehab. His mental health is poor and he has previously attempted suicide. There have been long periods where DH wasn’t allowed to go home, because his brother was there and they had seriously fallen out. He borrowed money from us once (not thousands but still not a small amount) and never paid it back. On one occasion, masked men broke into MIL’s house to demand drug money. Despite all of the issues, MIL expects us to love BIL, treat him totally normally and act like nothing is wrong.
  • On my husband’s stag weekend, BIL took drugs, tried to punch my husband in the face and strangled one of his friends
  • The first time DH got a job, MIL rang up the company to tell them that she used to work as a CEO in the same industry and therefore wanted to check their ratings since her son would be working there
  • One Xmas we invited both families over for lunch and MIL told us that her family would be staying the night, but not mine as they live closer to us
  • The preparations for our wedding were particularly stressful. MIL visited our wedding venue with her friends repeatedly despite us asking her to wait and come with us, and then lied about it. She wanted us to invite her friends (she was paying half of the wedding so we agreed) but it was never enough and she kept asking for more and more people to be added to the guest list, none of whom I had ever met. It was a smallish wedding and my husband had met everyone on my side of the guest list beforehand. She also told us to ask the vicar to make a particular announcement before the church ceremony - we said that we didnt want to do that. So she proceeded to ask the vicar to do it herself (I managed to intervene and reminded her that we didn’t want that), but she then asked DH’s best man to remind the vicar to make this announcement on the morning of the wedding. She would also phone our vendors behind our backs and changed the seating plan on the day of the wedding so that troublesome BIL was sitting closer to DH.
** I should add at this point that at the same time as our wedding, my mum had a very aggressive cancer and was extremely unwell. Tbh, we all thought she wasn’t going to make it. Things were really bad and my mental health was at an all time low. She made this 10000 x more stressful
  • When I was heavily pregnant, we invited her round for a bbq. It was meant to just be a small casual thing as I was huge, it was hot and I was struggling. She demanded that we invite the rest of the whole family (5 extra people) and then specifically that we make a cheesecake.
  • When DD was first born, she told us that BIL needed to come and visit the same week and then stormed out of the house when we said it was too soon.
  • She also has issues with my BIL’s girlfriend. For example she bought her a pram but then refused to hand it over unless BIL, who had recently been found to be taking drugs again, was allowed to be at the birth. BIL’s girlfriend didn’t want that at the time. BIL also had drugs delivered to his girlfriend’s house and MIL went round to request them back. She said that BIL needed them and she didn’t understand.
  • She has repeatedly put my job down over the years, telling me that my salary is ‘alright’ and minimising what I do for a living.

The latest issue is that it is DD’s christening in a few weeks and MIL is demanding again that her friend be invited. Unlike the wedding, MIL is not financially contributing to the cost of the christening. My extended family are invited to the christening but my parent’s friends are not (MIL doesn’t have extended family but all of her close family will be attending).

We are not close to this friend, my DH has seen her twice in our entire 10 year relationship (one being at our wedding) and she has never met DD.

I am quite frankly sick and tired of constantly being told what to do by MIL and having all supposed to be happy events turned into a battle. I asked my DH multiple times when organising the christening who he wanted to invite and he invited several friends. He never once mentioned wanting to invite MIL’s friend because we don’t know her and she doesn’t feature in our lives.

Whenever we have to see MIL I get in such a bad mood, I just can’t help myself. My husband does stick up for us sometimes, but he has lived with her controlling behaviour his whole life and so sometimes lets things be brushed under the carpet.

My question is - what would you do at this point?

OP posts:
MermaidMummy06 · 19/03/2026 21:02

I had a MIL like this, who ruined our wedding (along with SIL) and a lot of other occassions, and made my life hell in general. I discovered she stopped us moving - cities AND to another, nicer sunburn by dripping poison in DH ear. (They bought near us, tried for the same street!) Now we're stuck here. DH is weak and passive because he was trained to be that way (SIL ran away at 16).

Anyway, it took me far too long to learn she didn't have the power. I told her to get out of my house after one incident & DH had zero choice but to back me up, or I'd move out. She learned pretty quickly men are crap at communication and tried to mend it, but ever since I've avoided them unless necessary. Went out when they sprung a surprise visit. Made sure Xmas etc is with my family and refuse to visit when SIL descends. MIL passed a few years ago, and even FIL is much happier.

I'll add that no what, you will be the bad guy in your DH's family. Just don't engage or listen to it. Don't defend yourself. Just moved on & enjoy your peaceful life!!!

Tablesandchairs23 · 19/03/2026 21:06

Grow a back bone and put some boundaries in place.

AnSpideog · 19/03/2026 21:12

I have had long term issues with my MIL and unfortunately things have deteriorated so much, it’s very difficult for my DH now.

My advice to you would be to hold firm boundaries so you don’t end up getting pissed off and worn down. Hold your boundaries nicely and see her for short spurts.

it’s tricky with your BIL, addiction is an illness and she is dealing with it in her own way. You would be within rights to cut him off but she’ll always want to let him in. It’s extremely difficult.

Redragtoabull · 19/03/2026 21:47

Next time she tries it on, ask her very sternly why she does this, let her think about it. If she doesn't change her behaviour then she's far to gone and you need to have nothing to do with her. Your husband should be backing you on this too!
I am NC with my own mother because she constantly behaved entitled and controlling and after 40 years of it, I was done. Life is less weighty now. Best of luck

Tuesdayschild50 · 19/03/2026 22:53

Time to step it up .. I'd tell your husband you are no longer putting up with her behaviour.
Limit the times you see her or don't see her at all.
Don't be afraid to stand up to her.

Uvorange · 19/03/2026 23:01

I just wish that we could invite her to something and she say ‘oh sounds lovely, thanks’ the same way that everyone else does. Rather than trying to control every event

but that’s not who she is. It’s insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result. She is who she is and she acts how she acts. If you invite her to something she’s going to be difficult. If you let her pay for something she’s going to be difficult. Every family event, birthday, christening, birth, wedding whatever she’s going to be there and she’s going to be difficult.
all you can do is not be shocked by that, and try limit her impact. Don’t see her outside of necessary events, and you and dh can continue to say no to things. I do have sympathy my mil is similar and it just doesn’t go away as a problem

JayJayj · 19/03/2026 23:50

No one ever tells her no and when they do she reacts like a toddler!!! Just say no. If she asks again say we’ve already answered that question. If she asks again say you are worried about her memory as you’ve already had this discussion but she keeps bringing it up!!

I would suggest therapy for both of you. You can’t change her behaviour but you can put up boundaries and walk away. Stop inviting her and speaking to her. Life is too short people like her.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 20/03/2026 16:34

Put it this way... giving in to her... putting up with her... is not turning out to be a winning formula.

I'm just thinking you don't have much to lose if you say no to her. She's already stressing you out, annoying you and causing problems... she will of course kick off when you do say no - but so what.. its going to be about the same anyway.. so you may as well chose what you want to happen, which is not to have a rando at your Christening. Its not a wedding. Its a very small family event.

Some people have been trained to keep the peace with difficult family members... to try to carve out a semblance of a happy family. It doesn't work because they love "events" where they can kick off, attract attention and get everyone feeling sorry for them (they think) And its a double whammy. You are upset that you can't just have a normal family relationship and you are also upset that your event has been ruined, just as you predicted, despite doing everything you can to make sure it all goes smoothly and the person doesn't show you up.

So my reasoning is say no. Because she's not going to suddenly stop being difficult if you say yes and it sounds like you've just had enough. m,./

I'm not clear if she's also arguing that your unpredictable BIL whose poor behaviour at family events you've already witnessed, should turn up or just some rando friend. Definite no to him. A pp suggested both you and DH getting some counselling to work through the effect of all of this and I think that's a great idea

Ewg9 · 20/03/2026 17:05

She sounds awful, I wouldn't allow the BIL anywhere near baby if he has drug issues let alone him being aggressive towards your husband. Need to put boundaries in, ideally your husband should be saying no. ideally agree and then stand firm. She will continue to do as she wants otherwise if she's not used to resistance, it's for you and your husband to decide who comes to the christening, not your MIL. I wouldn't pander or give into her anymore.

AgentPidge · 20/03/2026 21:07

You are adults. You can calmly explain why you are not giving in to her demands. "No, we're not going to do that." Why on earth don't you - or rather, your DH - stand up to her? If he's reluctant, explain why it's important to you, whatever it is, and get him to tell her.
And stop involving her in everything! Give her a task, if necessary ("We'd love it if you'd organise the dessert") and then if she starts muscling in, tell her you've got everything else in hand and don't budge.

WilfredsPies · 20/03/2026 22:20

Blueunicornthistle · 18/03/2026 15:44

Your baby is only 6 months old but in a year or so they’ll start having tantrums - the absolute number one rule with tantrums is to never, EVER give in. Hold firm however loud the screaming is. Be kind but unwavering. In the long term it is worth it.

The exact same advice applies to tantruming adults. Set your boundaries and never, ever give in.

It will be worth it in the end.

💐

I completely agree with this. The SAS have a policy of never negotiating with toddlers, terrorists or MiLs and I think it’s one that works pretty well.

Whatever she comes up with, just smile and say ‘No, we won’t be doing that’. And if she asks why, the only response is ‘Because we’ve discussed it and decided that we don’t want to’. Just keep repeating it ad infinitum.

ItsOkItsDarkChocolate · 21/03/2026 17:59

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 18/03/2026 17:14

"My husband does stick up for us sometimes, but he has lived with her controlling behaviour his whole life and so sometimes lets things be brushed under the carpet."

The real problem here is your H. He needs to do what @Apfelkuchen 's H did:

"My MIL only stopped when my DH started standing up to her and refusing to comply with her controlling demands. She eventually realised that if she wanted to have a relationship with her son and DGC she would need to compromise. There were some almighty tantrums, but he held firm."

OP, you wouldn't know MIL if it wasn't for your H. You married him, not MIL. If he wants you to have a relationship with MIL, HE has to make it sufficiently pleasant - or at least not teeth-grindingly stressful - for you to see her.

As the DIL, you have no power to change MIL's behaviour. You're an outsider to the family and will become the target of implacable aggression if you try to regulate MIL's behaviour. If MIL is capable of becoming somewhat reasonable, only H might be able to achieve that.

If H cannot or will not contain his mother, then you have the right to refuse to see her.

Your H will probably fight you on this, because he'd rather upset you than his mother. So your battle will be to hold your ground against your H.

Someone mentioned counselling. That might help. Also, read Beverley Engel's books "Toxic Parents" and "Toxic In Laws". What you're facing here is a very very common pattern in dysfunctional families.

You do need to tackle this, because DD should not be exposed to a drug addict who punched her father and tried to strangle another guest at a party FFS. DD should also not be taught that the way Granny behaves is acceptable, and that the way to handle such overbearing bullying manipulative abusive freaks is to lay flatter.

This!

ItsOkItsDarkChocolate · 21/03/2026 18:00

WilfredsPies · 20/03/2026 22:20

I completely agree with this. The SAS have a policy of never negotiating with toddlers, terrorists or MiLs and I think it’s one that works pretty well.

Whatever she comes up with, just smile and say ‘No, we won’t be doing that’. And if she asks why, the only response is ‘Because we’ve discussed it and decided that we don’t want to’. Just keep repeating it ad infinitum.

And this.

No. Is a sentence, and a very powerful one.

It’ll be hard, but that’ll get easier.

Mary46 · 22/03/2026 11:44

Yes better boundaries. Op I find my mam would plan my wends for me if I let it. No. Firm answers. Better boundaries. Its not easy!

Gossipisgood · 24/03/2026 12:46

Any future big events you're organising don't tell her about it, then when everything is finalised, a few weeks before give her a printed invite with just her name on it. Don't discuss venues, catering, guest lists or anything else that way she can't ring anywhere or make demands to anyone other than you & your DH. If she starts asking to invite friends say 'sorry no, you have arranged numbers with caterers, seating plans etc & any extra won't work. Be firm & don't give in to her. As far as BIL is concerned your DH should have the relationship he wants with his Brother not what his Mum wants them to have. I'd be cautious having my young chid around a drug addict so do what's best for your family.

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