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Very complicated split - advice please!

49 replies

Lucieintheskywithdiamonds · 18/03/2026 06:13

I'm sorry this is SO long so if you dont want to read a novel today then maybe dont bother with this one. Or if you're up for it, grab a cup of tea and settle down.

Person A (female) and person B (male) met ten years ago. They're from two different countries and met in a third country (lets call it Country C) where A was working and B was studying.

They ended up getting together and having two children. The relationship wasnt really great after the first couple of years (B graduated but was unable to find work due to visa laws in Country C, which made it difficult but not impossible. Would have required hard work and effort to get a job (other people from his country worked hard and managed) but B didnt try or make the effort.)

A and B got married after 2 years together but that was, in all honesty, because the certificate was needed to keep them all together due to being from different countries. A had already realised that if the logistics wouldn't have been too difficult (trying to coparent internationally) then she probably would have left B, but she kept trying to make it work for the kids. A felt this way because of how little B contributed to their life and the stress just made her fall out of love.

A kept them afloat financially 100% with her full time job and often had a part time job too. B didnt really do anything - didnt work (again, not entirely his own fault but didnt make any effort to fix this), no housework, and would cook dinner but only if he felt like it, so often there was no dinner.

The house was always a huge mess because 1) kids and 2) B would be home all day and up late at night making mess. A would work 5 days a week, come home to mess needing to be sorted, and then have to spend 1 whole day of the weekend to do a big clean and all the washing. B would never clean. If REALLY harrassed he might manage one job every several days. (A small one. Like the washing up.)

Often B would take the second weekend day for himself for a hobby which made A even more resentful at working full time and never having real time off. If A ever convinced B to spend the one free weekend day to take the kids out for a family trip, he was often in a foul mood and they argued all day.

A would help B by making CVs and applying for internships and getting him onto professional courses to help him get hired which he didnt follow up on or do, instead remaining unemployed and getting sullen, depressed and angry about it.

B was resentful and angry a lot. Wanted to move home for work but his home country is an asian country where he couldn't support a family of 4. (Earning the equivalent of £100-£200 a month, with A's earning potential similar in that country). Despite knowing he couldn't afford to move the family there, B was very angry and resentful towards A who he blamed for forcing them to remain in Country C. (A said she would be willing to move anywhere if he got a job offer that would provide for the family like hers was doing. For reference, A's job in Country C provided a home, excellent health insurance for the whole family, and free international school education for both children as well as a good salary.)

Eventually B decided he wanted to move home for a while. He could get an internship and eventually job there and then return to A and the kids when he had enough work experience, and use this to get a good job in Country C. That was his official reason, but also in his culture he's cared for by the women of the family (mother, sister, grandmother) and could do his hobby with his childhood friends to his hearts content in his free time with nobody ever asking him to do any chores or anything. So A suspected that had a lot to do with B's desire to return home. His plan was to return in a few months.

When B left it was like a weight had been lifted. A felt happy and free and life just seemed easier. Trying to help and manage a man who was not even willing to do the basics had been exhausting and upsetting and even made her sick. All of this sort of evaporated alongside the stress. A found that it was easier being alone because nobody was letting her down. Even the kids who loved him were happy and settled without the negative atmosphere and stress.

A took the kids to visit B in his hometown and suddenly it was immediately back to stress. A was frustrated and angry that B just wanted to hang out doing his hobby with his friends and put that before spending time with the kids even when they were just there for a short time. They argued a lot. A realised she hated who she was with B, like she became a nag, someone stressed and unhappy and tense. So A finally ended things with B. Just finally snapped after so many years of stress.

B was heartbroken and begged for another chance but A had, as she told him, been literally in tears almost daily, begging him to change, just to help a little, just to do the very bare minimum like keep the house a little bit clean, and he wouldnt even do that. She had totally checked out emotionally, and there was no going back. For her the end felt like freedom. For him, he was gutted and wanted to prove himself. But it was too little too late.

A returned to Country C, to her job, with the kids as they had their whole lives there. She said she would bring the kids to visit B every vacation (long vacations due to international school) and would pay half or even all the price of the ticket for the kids to visit him, or for him to visit Country C whenever he wanted.

B took the end of the relationship very badly and just spent most of his time with no contact towards her or the kids. He never called, wouldn't arrange a time for regular video calls, never discussed visits. Despite now being working he never sent money for the kids. It has been nearly two years since he left to return to his home country and he has only sent about £20 total, which was divided over two payments (so £10 once and then another £10 another time). A always tries to get him to speak with kids but B often will just call once and then not again for ages, or will message and instead of talking about kids, visits, or arranging calls, just asks to get back with A.

To complicate things further, A had considered herself bisexual before they got together but had mostly been with women. She was 100% open about this from the beginning and B knew everything. She had genuinely liked B for who he was, but after the birth of her first child she really started questioning her sexuality and whether she was actually into men. Tried to surpress her feelings for the sake of the family but after the birth of her second, her attraction to men was completely dead and she spent years wrestling with the realisation that she was a lesbian. (Luckily her relationship with B was so stressful and she was so exhausted all the time that the lack of sex wasnt really commented upon much.)

When B left, she realised that staying with him 'for the kids' was wrong because the kids felt much less stressed out of that tense environment. But she wants B to be able to see the kids, and have a good relationship with them.

B knows A doesnt want to be with a man ever again and just wants to be good friends and coparents. But B thinks A should let him live with her (in her home in Country C) so he can see the kids every day. He refuses to even try and get a job in Country C, even though he probably could now. He wont discuss any other options.

A feels that she wishes she were straight because all the reasons she left him were valid, and she feels they were the right decision. She grew up in a house where parents argued and were stressed and as a result suffered from severe anxiety as a teen. When younger, she always vowed to be brave enough to step away from an environment like that for the sake of her future kids and to set up a strong and positive coparenting system instead.

But B isnt really letting that happen and all he wants is to get back together or live together again at the very least.

Because A has come out, she feels she might come across as selfish and like she broke up the family for this reason, when she didnt. She still cares for B and doesnt want him to hurt too much, but cant bear to live with him again after how awful it was! She also wants to do what is best for the children. (Kids too young to know or understand about sexuality yet.) The sexuality is kind of irrelevant but just adds to A's guilt. A and B can chat now as friends but he never stops going back to asking to get back together,never follows through on promises to send money and never does enough for the kids including plan visits. But he blames her for all of this as she ended things.

Any advice?

OP posts:
Randomuser2026 · 18/03/2026 06:19

B is a useless fucker, and needs to start paddling his own canoe.

A needs to just start saying No.
B is not hurting one tiny bit, he’s just sour that the blood supply he leeched from is closed off.

Randomuser2026 · 18/03/2026 06:20

But B isnt really letting that happen and all he wants is to get back together or live together again at the very least.

Is he doing this to be child-centered or self-centered? This is the crux.

BlackbirdShouting · 18/03/2026 06:25

B needs to organise himself a place to live near to the kids if he wants that. A is not his mother. A is his ex wife. A needs to focus on stability for the children and doesn’t need a third grown child to look after so no way should she let him live with her. How would she ever get him out again? Congratulations to A for breaking free from yet another man who feels it’s below him to wash a pot.
I absolutely won’t allow guilt. Nope. A should quit that right now. He had enough chances.

BlackbirdShouting · 18/03/2026 06:28

Randomuser2026 · 18/03/2026 06:20

But B isnt really letting that happen and all he wants is to get back together or live together again at the very least.

Is he doing this to be child-centered or self-centered? This is the crux.

i would guess self centred as that’s his MO but either way HE needs to organise himself. It’s not down to her to fix things for him and take on the care of him too. He didn’t even want to see them when they were there for a holiday.

jollygoose · 18/03/2026 06:34

A should have ditched B long before she finally did. A must have had the patience of a saint there could be no way back for this useless manbaby

Dozer · 18/03/2026 06:43

Most of your post isn’t relevant.

What matters is your options legally regarding where you live and what’s best for the DC.

You wish to stay where you are? So do that.

You don’t need to justify anything you do to your ex or do what he says. Progress the divorce and facilitate his access to the DC, within what’s reasonable.

If he wants to take the DC for a visit to his home country, would check it’s one that has signed up to the scheme to return DC if a parent refuses to return them to the other parent.

Dozer · 18/03/2026 06:46

Also, your guilt seems misplaced. Your mistakes were having DC and then staying with your ex. Prolonging the situation wouldn’t benefit your DC and your ex’s thoughts, feelings about things aren’t your problem.

Randomuser2026 · 18/03/2026 06:49

BlackbirdShouting · 18/03/2026 06:28

i would guess self centred as that’s his MO but either way HE needs to organise himself. It’s not down to her to fix things for him and take on the care of him too. He didn’t even want to see them when they were there for a holiday.

Absolutely, the question was actually rhetorical - he had the opportunity to be child centred and demonstrated that he is utterly selfish.

Username19893847477374 · 18/03/2026 06:55

Why not just say I and he? We know you're A!

Houndsahollering · 18/03/2026 07:01

B needs to grow up and start acting like a responsible adult and parent.
He doesn’t want to live together so he can see the kids every day, he wants to live together so A will keep running around parenting him.

A needs to take the kids and go to whatever country she has job and support prospects. B can see build a relationship with the kids when he starts acting like an adult.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 18/03/2026 07:05

Randomuser2026 · 18/03/2026 06:19

B is a useless fucker, and needs to start paddling his own canoe.

A needs to just start saying No.
B is not hurting one tiny bit, he’s just sour that the blood supply he leeched from is closed off.

First post nails it.
This guy has zero fucking interest in his kids.

Why the fick would A let a man who stone walls herlwojt pay for her kods or SEE them...MOVE in amd leech off her after months / years

At the risk of sounding gen Z I'm going to quote uncle toger "emotional damageeeee"
Your children are collateral damage at this point.
Get a grip and protect them from this nonsense.
Give him clear offers and set clear boundaries.
"we will never live together again. If you want to live in countryc to be close to the kids thats great but you cannot stay in my house. "
"The maintanance you owe is x thousand."
"you can Videa call the kids tue and thu at 8"

If its guilt about being a lesbian its worth know while some women desire dick or "need a man".... hundreds of thousands dont

Post kids if my husband died (I'm 40) I'd never bother with another man again. Im not unusual

Bluegreenbird · 18/03/2026 07:09

No no no. You have nothing to feel guilty about. If his internal dialogue is that your relationship broke down because you’re gay and you have destroyed his chances and his ability to be a father and to move to a wealthy country then LET HIM THINK THAT.
Let him tell his mummy and everyone else that you ruined his life. Let him pretend he only wants to be with his children. You know the truth.

TealSapphire · 18/03/2026 07:10

It's really not that complicated at all. You've ended your relationship with a loser, it's now up to him to house himself and provide for his children.

FateAmenableToChange · 18/03/2026 07:20

Maybe therapy might help you overcome the completely unreasonable feelings of guilt you have towards the parasite you have removed from your life? You & your children are so much better off without this drain on your energy & finances. He is a shocking example/role model to have around them too. Be grateful he has removed himself from their lives, and do not encourage or facilitate him.

Firefly100 · 18/03/2026 07:24

A should divorce B. Then A should only communicate with B regarding the children and ignore any other comms. Preferably by email or something similarly low confrontation.

DaisyChain505 · 18/03/2026 07:30

Not complicated at all. You married a loser, realised a little late but still did.

If he wanted to have been a good partner he would have been, if he wanted to be a good parent he would have been.

Stop feeling like it’s your responsibility to support this pathetic man and let him stand on his own two feet or run back to mummy.

AgnesX · 18/03/2026 07:37

Sexuality is neither here nor there. B's a complete waste of space and A shouldn't entertain any ideas that B may have about living together in any country.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 18/03/2026 07:38

Randomuser2026 · 18/03/2026 06:20

But B isnt really letting that happen and all he wants is to get back together or live together again at the very least.

Is he doing this to be child-centered or self-centered? This is the crux.

I think it’s pretty clear why B wats to move back in, and that he won’t be ‘child centred’. He wants an easy life with someone else paying for and looking after him, probably with a side of controlling his ex and the kids being there so he can say he is a “good dad” as a distant third.

A should definitely not let him move back in. Aside from anything else I worry about her safety as he may push the getting back together and won’t like that she is gay. At best it will be miserable for her and the kids at worst he could hurt her.

Lesmiserablez · 18/03/2026 07:45

The fact that A can’t say “I” or “me” makes me think there is more to this story than meets the eye

Lucieintheskywithdiamonds · 18/03/2026 08:42

About the A and B thing - yeah that was stupid! I started off thinking that it was going to be a very short question, where i'd use 'Person A' and 'Person B' to try and be a bit neutral - so it wasnt obvious who was who.

However, I obviously got ranting, and made it incredibly obvious who I was. It seemed I had a lot to get off my chest 😂I tend to not talk about this too much IRL because it stresses me out when I think about ex, and when I dont think about him and just get on with life I'm perfectly happy. I'd not planned for it to be essay it turned into (the first paragraph was written at the end!)

By time I read it back and realised the A and B thing was pointless, it was too hugely long and I couldn't be bothered to change it. So sorry about that!

But most of all - thank you so much for all of your replies. I can't believe how much better I feel. I really needed to hear this, and especially from strangers online who have nothing to lose by telling the truth.

My ex is just so sad and the guilt feels big because he's blaming me for his inability to see the kids. Every time we speak I am asking him to arrange a visit but he always steers the conversation back to himself and his feelings. Its been two years and while we can speak in a more friendly way now, it mostly still ends with him asking to move back in or get back together.

Thank you for being so understanding about the sexuality aspect. I thought I might get flamed for that. I agree it shouldn't be relevant but I'm a little scared I will be coming across as selfish and self centred, destroying a family for my own selfish reasons. But honestly this wasnt even a part of my decision (although of course it feels really good now to be out in the open).

If I can ever actually arrange for ex to visit, would you let him stay in my apartment with the kids? Or ask him to rent air bnb or similar with them?

To the person who mentioned it, I dont think he'd try and take them purely because he doesn't really have the means to look after them. But that's something to think about also.

OP posts:
Lucieintheskywithdiamonds · 18/03/2026 08:44

I'm reading your messages over and over, again and again and honestly this is the best I've felt about it in two years so thank you so much for your honestly and for taking the time to tell me your thoughts!

OP posts:
Suedoh · 18/03/2026 08:51

B is a huuuge man baby

Catcatcatcatcat · 18/03/2026 08:56

A needs to stop pandering to this useless man child.

SendTheNextOneIn · 18/03/2026 09:39

Definitely do not allow him to stay with you if he ever sorts himself out enough to visit.

NobodysGirl · 18/03/2026 11:18

Hypothetically, say, you met in Dubai and work there - and that he is from say, Indonesia?

My big worry in your shoes would be him exercising his legal right to have access to the kids, and getting say, two weeks every summer holiday, taking them then to Indonesia and not bringing them back and the hassle and mental upset to you and the kids in getting them back.

Definitely get legal advice on those points and go ahead and defo. divorce the man child.
He has completely broken his vows by not getting a job for so long in Country C, not doing anything else around the house to make life easier, and then on top of everything going back to his home country for an extended holiday at least initially before he got a job there. You are allowed to fall out of love even if he had not done all this ofc, but this just makes it easier to close the door definitively with no second chances/ need to offer a place to stay under same roof on compassionate grounds etc.