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Very complicated split - advice please!

49 replies

Lucieintheskywithdiamonds · 18/03/2026 06:13

I'm sorry this is SO long so if you dont want to read a novel today then maybe dont bother with this one. Or if you're up for it, grab a cup of tea and settle down.

Person A (female) and person B (male) met ten years ago. They're from two different countries and met in a third country (lets call it Country C) where A was working and B was studying.

They ended up getting together and having two children. The relationship wasnt really great after the first couple of years (B graduated but was unable to find work due to visa laws in Country C, which made it difficult but not impossible. Would have required hard work and effort to get a job (other people from his country worked hard and managed) but B didnt try or make the effort.)

A and B got married after 2 years together but that was, in all honesty, because the certificate was needed to keep them all together due to being from different countries. A had already realised that if the logistics wouldn't have been too difficult (trying to coparent internationally) then she probably would have left B, but she kept trying to make it work for the kids. A felt this way because of how little B contributed to their life and the stress just made her fall out of love.

A kept them afloat financially 100% with her full time job and often had a part time job too. B didnt really do anything - didnt work (again, not entirely his own fault but didnt make any effort to fix this), no housework, and would cook dinner but only if he felt like it, so often there was no dinner.

The house was always a huge mess because 1) kids and 2) B would be home all day and up late at night making mess. A would work 5 days a week, come home to mess needing to be sorted, and then have to spend 1 whole day of the weekend to do a big clean and all the washing. B would never clean. If REALLY harrassed he might manage one job every several days. (A small one. Like the washing up.)

Often B would take the second weekend day for himself for a hobby which made A even more resentful at working full time and never having real time off. If A ever convinced B to spend the one free weekend day to take the kids out for a family trip, he was often in a foul mood and they argued all day.

A would help B by making CVs and applying for internships and getting him onto professional courses to help him get hired which he didnt follow up on or do, instead remaining unemployed and getting sullen, depressed and angry about it.

B was resentful and angry a lot. Wanted to move home for work but his home country is an asian country where he couldn't support a family of 4. (Earning the equivalent of £100-£200 a month, with A's earning potential similar in that country). Despite knowing he couldn't afford to move the family there, B was very angry and resentful towards A who he blamed for forcing them to remain in Country C. (A said she would be willing to move anywhere if he got a job offer that would provide for the family like hers was doing. For reference, A's job in Country C provided a home, excellent health insurance for the whole family, and free international school education for both children as well as a good salary.)

Eventually B decided he wanted to move home for a while. He could get an internship and eventually job there and then return to A and the kids when he had enough work experience, and use this to get a good job in Country C. That was his official reason, but also in his culture he's cared for by the women of the family (mother, sister, grandmother) and could do his hobby with his childhood friends to his hearts content in his free time with nobody ever asking him to do any chores or anything. So A suspected that had a lot to do with B's desire to return home. His plan was to return in a few months.

When B left it was like a weight had been lifted. A felt happy and free and life just seemed easier. Trying to help and manage a man who was not even willing to do the basics had been exhausting and upsetting and even made her sick. All of this sort of evaporated alongside the stress. A found that it was easier being alone because nobody was letting her down. Even the kids who loved him were happy and settled without the negative atmosphere and stress.

A took the kids to visit B in his hometown and suddenly it was immediately back to stress. A was frustrated and angry that B just wanted to hang out doing his hobby with his friends and put that before spending time with the kids even when they were just there for a short time. They argued a lot. A realised she hated who she was with B, like she became a nag, someone stressed and unhappy and tense. So A finally ended things with B. Just finally snapped after so many years of stress.

B was heartbroken and begged for another chance but A had, as she told him, been literally in tears almost daily, begging him to change, just to help a little, just to do the very bare minimum like keep the house a little bit clean, and he wouldnt even do that. She had totally checked out emotionally, and there was no going back. For her the end felt like freedom. For him, he was gutted and wanted to prove himself. But it was too little too late.

A returned to Country C, to her job, with the kids as they had their whole lives there. She said she would bring the kids to visit B every vacation (long vacations due to international school) and would pay half or even all the price of the ticket for the kids to visit him, or for him to visit Country C whenever he wanted.

B took the end of the relationship very badly and just spent most of his time with no contact towards her or the kids. He never called, wouldn't arrange a time for regular video calls, never discussed visits. Despite now being working he never sent money for the kids. It has been nearly two years since he left to return to his home country and he has only sent about £20 total, which was divided over two payments (so £10 once and then another £10 another time). A always tries to get him to speak with kids but B often will just call once and then not again for ages, or will message and instead of talking about kids, visits, or arranging calls, just asks to get back with A.

To complicate things further, A had considered herself bisexual before they got together but had mostly been with women. She was 100% open about this from the beginning and B knew everything. She had genuinely liked B for who he was, but after the birth of her first child she really started questioning her sexuality and whether she was actually into men. Tried to surpress her feelings for the sake of the family but after the birth of her second, her attraction to men was completely dead and she spent years wrestling with the realisation that she was a lesbian. (Luckily her relationship with B was so stressful and she was so exhausted all the time that the lack of sex wasnt really commented upon much.)

When B left, she realised that staying with him 'for the kids' was wrong because the kids felt much less stressed out of that tense environment. But she wants B to be able to see the kids, and have a good relationship with them.

B knows A doesnt want to be with a man ever again and just wants to be good friends and coparents. But B thinks A should let him live with her (in her home in Country C) so he can see the kids every day. He refuses to even try and get a job in Country C, even though he probably could now. He wont discuss any other options.

A feels that she wishes she were straight because all the reasons she left him were valid, and she feels they were the right decision. She grew up in a house where parents argued and were stressed and as a result suffered from severe anxiety as a teen. When younger, she always vowed to be brave enough to step away from an environment like that for the sake of her future kids and to set up a strong and positive coparenting system instead.

But B isnt really letting that happen and all he wants is to get back together or live together again at the very least.

Because A has come out, she feels she might come across as selfish and like she broke up the family for this reason, when she didnt. She still cares for B and doesnt want him to hurt too much, but cant bear to live with him again after how awful it was! She also wants to do what is best for the children. (Kids too young to know or understand about sexuality yet.) The sexuality is kind of irrelevant but just adds to A's guilt. A and B can chat now as friends but he never stops going back to asking to get back together,never follows through on promises to send money and never does enough for the kids including plan visits. But he blames her for all of this as she ended things.

Any advice?

OP posts:
Chatsbots · 18/03/2026 11:22

Why are you feeling guilty for his choices?

Get some therapy!

CoyGoldenKoi · 18/03/2026 11:56

I'm so sorry you went through that.

You should feel zero guilt for your sexuality, that has nothing to do with it. Even if you were attracted to men, you still wouldn't be attracted to B, and that is all down to his continued behaviours over a long time period. So please put that guilt down forever.

Sounds like you really should take legal advice and divorce him. And no, you shouldn't assist him to come see the children - if it was important to him, he'd make it happen. You shouldn't let him stay at the house if he does make it over - that's your boundary for your safe space and your peace of mind.

And since talking to him seems mostly to make you feel guilty, maybe reduce that. One means of communication between you (preferably email, as you have a written record and it's asynchronous) and only communicate about the children. Nothing else needs to be discussed now, it's over.

You are already paying all of the children's costs, so if he can't even find the time and effort to come see them, that's on him, no need for you to facilitate. If he tries to talk about him and his feelings, just grey rock: "We're only talking about the children. Our relationship is over, there's nothing further to discuss." On repeat until he gets the message. Don't get drawn into it. Draw the boundary and hold it. He won't like it, but again, it is purely the consequences of his own actions, so you have nothing to feel guilty for.

I'm so impressed by you, please see yourself in others' eyes and realise how much you've done even with his dead weight hanging off you, and how much better life can be now without him.

category12 · 18/03/2026 12:19

Your sexuality is irrelevant. Get a divorce and then see whoever you like.

Doesn't matter what spin he puts on it, he's the one that's been absent and useless.

He'll probably badmouth you, but he would if you started seeing men as well - what he will tell people isn't under your control and doesn't actually matter.

toodleoothen · 18/03/2026 13:10

Don't get drawn into his drama. Your sexuality is your business, and nothing to do with the obviously dysfunctional marriage you were in. Just get the divorce and organize a sensible child care arrangement that enables him to stay in the kids' lives.

Do not let him stay under the same roof when he comes to visit. I did this and regret every minute. How he is today -regretful and emotional - is not how he is going to be when you make it clear that there is no going back. He will be resentful and even rageful in addition to being a lazy slob, as always, and you do NOT need that under your roof with your kids witnessing that. Good luck getting it all sorted out.

Retro12 · 18/03/2026 13:15

Lucieintheskywithdiamonds · 18/03/2026 06:13

I'm sorry this is SO long so if you dont want to read a novel today then maybe dont bother with this one. Or if you're up for it, grab a cup of tea and settle down.

Person A (female) and person B (male) met ten years ago. They're from two different countries and met in a third country (lets call it Country C) where A was working and B was studying.

They ended up getting together and having two children. The relationship wasnt really great after the first couple of years (B graduated but was unable to find work due to visa laws in Country C, which made it difficult but not impossible. Would have required hard work and effort to get a job (other people from his country worked hard and managed) but B didnt try or make the effort.)

A and B got married after 2 years together but that was, in all honesty, because the certificate was needed to keep them all together due to being from different countries. A had already realised that if the logistics wouldn't have been too difficult (trying to coparent internationally) then she probably would have left B, but she kept trying to make it work for the kids. A felt this way because of how little B contributed to their life and the stress just made her fall out of love.

A kept them afloat financially 100% with her full time job and often had a part time job too. B didnt really do anything - didnt work (again, not entirely his own fault but didnt make any effort to fix this), no housework, and would cook dinner but only if he felt like it, so often there was no dinner.

The house was always a huge mess because 1) kids and 2) B would be home all day and up late at night making mess. A would work 5 days a week, come home to mess needing to be sorted, and then have to spend 1 whole day of the weekend to do a big clean and all the washing. B would never clean. If REALLY harrassed he might manage one job every several days. (A small one. Like the washing up.)

Often B would take the second weekend day for himself for a hobby which made A even more resentful at working full time and never having real time off. If A ever convinced B to spend the one free weekend day to take the kids out for a family trip, he was often in a foul mood and they argued all day.

A would help B by making CVs and applying for internships and getting him onto professional courses to help him get hired which he didnt follow up on or do, instead remaining unemployed and getting sullen, depressed and angry about it.

B was resentful and angry a lot. Wanted to move home for work but his home country is an asian country where he couldn't support a family of 4. (Earning the equivalent of £100-£200 a month, with A's earning potential similar in that country). Despite knowing he couldn't afford to move the family there, B was very angry and resentful towards A who he blamed for forcing them to remain in Country C. (A said she would be willing to move anywhere if he got a job offer that would provide for the family like hers was doing. For reference, A's job in Country C provided a home, excellent health insurance for the whole family, and free international school education for both children as well as a good salary.)

Eventually B decided he wanted to move home for a while. He could get an internship and eventually job there and then return to A and the kids when he had enough work experience, and use this to get a good job in Country C. That was his official reason, but also in his culture he's cared for by the women of the family (mother, sister, grandmother) and could do his hobby with his childhood friends to his hearts content in his free time with nobody ever asking him to do any chores or anything. So A suspected that had a lot to do with B's desire to return home. His plan was to return in a few months.

When B left it was like a weight had been lifted. A felt happy and free and life just seemed easier. Trying to help and manage a man who was not even willing to do the basics had been exhausting and upsetting and even made her sick. All of this sort of evaporated alongside the stress. A found that it was easier being alone because nobody was letting her down. Even the kids who loved him were happy and settled without the negative atmosphere and stress.

A took the kids to visit B in his hometown and suddenly it was immediately back to stress. A was frustrated and angry that B just wanted to hang out doing his hobby with his friends and put that before spending time with the kids even when they were just there for a short time. They argued a lot. A realised she hated who she was with B, like she became a nag, someone stressed and unhappy and tense. So A finally ended things with B. Just finally snapped after so many years of stress.

B was heartbroken and begged for another chance but A had, as she told him, been literally in tears almost daily, begging him to change, just to help a little, just to do the very bare minimum like keep the house a little bit clean, and he wouldnt even do that. She had totally checked out emotionally, and there was no going back. For her the end felt like freedom. For him, he was gutted and wanted to prove himself. But it was too little too late.

A returned to Country C, to her job, with the kids as they had their whole lives there. She said she would bring the kids to visit B every vacation (long vacations due to international school) and would pay half or even all the price of the ticket for the kids to visit him, or for him to visit Country C whenever he wanted.

B took the end of the relationship very badly and just spent most of his time with no contact towards her or the kids. He never called, wouldn't arrange a time for regular video calls, never discussed visits. Despite now being working he never sent money for the kids. It has been nearly two years since he left to return to his home country and he has only sent about £20 total, which was divided over two payments (so £10 once and then another £10 another time). A always tries to get him to speak with kids but B often will just call once and then not again for ages, or will message and instead of talking about kids, visits, or arranging calls, just asks to get back with A.

To complicate things further, A had considered herself bisexual before they got together but had mostly been with women. She was 100% open about this from the beginning and B knew everything. She had genuinely liked B for who he was, but after the birth of her first child she really started questioning her sexuality and whether she was actually into men. Tried to surpress her feelings for the sake of the family but after the birth of her second, her attraction to men was completely dead and she spent years wrestling with the realisation that she was a lesbian. (Luckily her relationship with B was so stressful and she was so exhausted all the time that the lack of sex wasnt really commented upon much.)

When B left, she realised that staying with him 'for the kids' was wrong because the kids felt much less stressed out of that tense environment. But she wants B to be able to see the kids, and have a good relationship with them.

B knows A doesnt want to be with a man ever again and just wants to be good friends and coparents. But B thinks A should let him live with her (in her home in Country C) so he can see the kids every day. He refuses to even try and get a job in Country C, even though he probably could now. He wont discuss any other options.

A feels that she wishes she were straight because all the reasons she left him were valid, and she feels they were the right decision. She grew up in a house where parents argued and were stressed and as a result suffered from severe anxiety as a teen. When younger, she always vowed to be brave enough to step away from an environment like that for the sake of her future kids and to set up a strong and positive coparenting system instead.

But B isnt really letting that happen and all he wants is to get back together or live together again at the very least.

Because A has come out, she feels she might come across as selfish and like she broke up the family for this reason, when she didnt. She still cares for B and doesnt want him to hurt too much, but cant bear to live with him again after how awful it was! She also wants to do what is best for the children. (Kids too young to know or understand about sexuality yet.) The sexuality is kind of irrelevant but just adds to A's guilt. A and B can chat now as friends but he never stops going back to asking to get back together,never follows through on promises to send money and never does enough for the kids including plan visits. But he blames her for all of this as she ended things.

Any advice?

B knows how cushty he had it, he is probably getting bored of being around the women in his family who may also be nagging him!

A should stick to her guns, be free of stress and live her life as she see fits and do what makes her happy!

A should tell B that it is never going to happen and to stop wasting his time. He will lose interest once he realises that you wont give in.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 18/03/2026 13:20

If I can ever actually arrange for ex to visit, would you let him stay in my apartment with the kids? Or ask him to rent air bnb or similar with them?

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!! Don't even let him visit your apartment.

In the meantime, well done for getting him out and you keep going 💛

skyeisthelimit · 18/03/2026 13:31

Your sexuality has nothing to do with the breakup. You ended it because he wouldn't pull his weight and be part of the family. The marriage was over.

Do not let him move into your house, or you will be back to square one. It is up to him to sort his life out now. Divorce him and move on.

Ponderingwindow · 18/03/2026 13:35

This really isn’t complicated. Men who don’t want to meet their responsibilities are a dime a dozen on these boards. The details might vary, but the core issue is always the same.

Your children deserve a home without stress. If their father wants to live near them, he will find a job and secure himself housing. Neither of those things are your responsibility. You do not owe him a relationship. For the sake of your children, you should stand strong and keep him out of you home.

CostadiMar · 18/03/2026 13:49

Dozer · 18/03/2026 06:46

Also, your guilt seems misplaced. Your mistakes were having DC and then staying with your ex. Prolonging the situation wouldn’t benefit your DC and your ex’s thoughts, feelings about things aren’t your problem.

Exactly my thoughts also.
I wanted to stop reading when A had kids with B even before B secured any type of a job. It it pretty obvious he was only with A for a visa/residence and fully funded lifestyle. He had no reason to find a job since you provided everything and he got what he wanted (residence permit). Unfortunately, in such situations you've got to follow your brain and not your heart. Sadly, I know many women who made this mistake and now feel trapped.
I have no other advice really, since things have gone so far - but you should have ended the relationship long time ago, it's much overdue now. Not sure why you feel guilt? He is a useless husband and father.

Fast800goingforit · 18/03/2026 13:51

When you split up and he moved out he was no longer exerting any influence over you or the home you were paying for. You weren't having to parent a man who behaved like a feckless teenager as well as your kids. It says it all that he makes no effort to speak to the kids, nevermind anything else. He's entirely self-centred. I bet he says it's someone else's fault though.

You really tried to make it work. You have nothing to feel guilty about. When we're in a situation it can be so hard to say what's actually going on. Emotion gets in the way and the stress of daily life and work.

Crushed23 · 18/03/2026 13:53

A is a colossal doormat with no self-respect.

B is a selfish, useless misogynist.

Do not resuscitate this dumpster fire of a marriage.

Fends · 18/03/2026 14:00

He’s not sad 🤣 what the fuck are you talking about. Just cause he tells you he’s sad, he’s showing you a million times over that he couldn’t give two shits! About you or the kids.

Get a grip and get a divorce. In either order.

LycheeFizz1972 · 18/03/2026 14:03

B is a pig

Your sexuality is your business and not relevant

B needs to sort out access and pay for it. He can’t stay in your house. He is not your responsibility.

Well done for cutting loose - now don’t keep in contact with him unless it’s to discuss the kids

thepariscrimefiles · 18/03/2026 14:49

You have absolutely nothing to feel guilty for. Your husband is lazy, spoilt and self-centred. He has been perfectly happy to pretty much ignore his kids for years while living the life of an adolescent, boy while either living with you or his family. He's just using the kids to emotionally blackmail you because he can see that the gravy train that he's been on for years is finally grinding to a halt.

I wish you all the best for the future with your lovely children without having this waste of space like a millstone around your meck.

confusedbydating · 18/03/2026 14:54

Why do you care what other people think? They don’t have to put up with him. Tell him to apply to the courts if he has a problem with it, but you’re not financing his inadequacies.
i feel your sexuality isn’t even relevant - you could have had a lavender marriage if he was even half beneficial to your life

OneOfEachPlease · 18/03/2026 15:06

B is a deadbeat dad and partner who has left the country and doesn’t make any effort with his kids. A should divorce him asap, get full custody and then leave the contact ball in his court.
A should never, ever let B into her home ever again. Not even through the doorway. Any future meeting needs to be in a neutral space in country C as B cannot be trusted.

nochance17 · 18/03/2026 15:15

B is a dead weight which A has been carrying for far too long. B is bringing absolutely nothing to the table. A has already learned that living together for the kids is not always what is best for them. I wouldn’t encourage him and I would be slightly concerned he might take the children to his home country. Don’t host him under your roof.

Chatsbots · 18/03/2026 15:34

B is an adult and needs to manage his own life. Stop facilitating him.

BeenThereBackThen · 18/03/2026 15:56

Lucieintheskywithdiamonds · 18/03/2026 06:13

I'm sorry this is SO long so if you dont want to read a novel today then maybe dont bother with this one. Or if you're up for it, grab a cup of tea and settle down.

Person A (female) and person B (male) met ten years ago. They're from two different countries and met in a third country (lets call it Country C) where A was working and B was studying.

They ended up getting together and having two children. The relationship wasnt really great after the first couple of years (B graduated but was unable to find work due to visa laws in Country C, which made it difficult but not impossible. Would have required hard work and effort to get a job (other people from his country worked hard and managed) but B didnt try or make the effort.)

A and B got married after 2 years together but that was, in all honesty, because the certificate was needed to keep them all together due to being from different countries. A had already realised that if the logistics wouldn't have been too difficult (trying to coparent internationally) then she probably would have left B, but she kept trying to make it work for the kids. A felt this way because of how little B contributed to their life and the stress just made her fall out of love.

A kept them afloat financially 100% with her full time job and often had a part time job too. B didnt really do anything - didnt work (again, not entirely his own fault but didnt make any effort to fix this), no housework, and would cook dinner but only if he felt like it, so often there was no dinner.

The house was always a huge mess because 1) kids and 2) B would be home all day and up late at night making mess. A would work 5 days a week, come home to mess needing to be sorted, and then have to spend 1 whole day of the weekend to do a big clean and all the washing. B would never clean. If REALLY harrassed he might manage one job every several days. (A small one. Like the washing up.)

Often B would take the second weekend day for himself for a hobby which made A even more resentful at working full time and never having real time off. If A ever convinced B to spend the one free weekend day to take the kids out for a family trip, he was often in a foul mood and they argued all day.

A would help B by making CVs and applying for internships and getting him onto professional courses to help him get hired which he didnt follow up on or do, instead remaining unemployed and getting sullen, depressed and angry about it.

B was resentful and angry a lot. Wanted to move home for work but his home country is an asian country where he couldn't support a family of 4. (Earning the equivalent of £100-£200 a month, with A's earning potential similar in that country). Despite knowing he couldn't afford to move the family there, B was very angry and resentful towards A who he blamed for forcing them to remain in Country C. (A said she would be willing to move anywhere if he got a job offer that would provide for the family like hers was doing. For reference, A's job in Country C provided a home, excellent health insurance for the whole family, and free international school education for both children as well as a good salary.)

Eventually B decided he wanted to move home for a while. He could get an internship and eventually job there and then return to A and the kids when he had enough work experience, and use this to get a good job in Country C. That was his official reason, but also in his culture he's cared for by the women of the family (mother, sister, grandmother) and could do his hobby with his childhood friends to his hearts content in his free time with nobody ever asking him to do any chores or anything. So A suspected that had a lot to do with B's desire to return home. His plan was to return in a few months.

When B left it was like a weight had been lifted. A felt happy and free and life just seemed easier. Trying to help and manage a man who was not even willing to do the basics had been exhausting and upsetting and even made her sick. All of this sort of evaporated alongside the stress. A found that it was easier being alone because nobody was letting her down. Even the kids who loved him were happy and settled without the negative atmosphere and stress.

A took the kids to visit B in his hometown and suddenly it was immediately back to stress. A was frustrated and angry that B just wanted to hang out doing his hobby with his friends and put that before spending time with the kids even when they were just there for a short time. They argued a lot. A realised she hated who she was with B, like she became a nag, someone stressed and unhappy and tense. So A finally ended things with B. Just finally snapped after so many years of stress.

B was heartbroken and begged for another chance but A had, as she told him, been literally in tears almost daily, begging him to change, just to help a little, just to do the very bare minimum like keep the house a little bit clean, and he wouldnt even do that. She had totally checked out emotionally, and there was no going back. For her the end felt like freedom. For him, he was gutted and wanted to prove himself. But it was too little too late.

A returned to Country C, to her job, with the kids as they had their whole lives there. She said she would bring the kids to visit B every vacation (long vacations due to international school) and would pay half or even all the price of the ticket for the kids to visit him, or for him to visit Country C whenever he wanted.

B took the end of the relationship very badly and just spent most of his time with no contact towards her or the kids. He never called, wouldn't arrange a time for regular video calls, never discussed visits. Despite now being working he never sent money for the kids. It has been nearly two years since he left to return to his home country and he has only sent about £20 total, which was divided over two payments (so £10 once and then another £10 another time). A always tries to get him to speak with kids but B often will just call once and then not again for ages, or will message and instead of talking about kids, visits, or arranging calls, just asks to get back with A.

To complicate things further, A had considered herself bisexual before they got together but had mostly been with women. She was 100% open about this from the beginning and B knew everything. She had genuinely liked B for who he was, but after the birth of her first child she really started questioning her sexuality and whether she was actually into men. Tried to surpress her feelings for the sake of the family but after the birth of her second, her attraction to men was completely dead and she spent years wrestling with the realisation that she was a lesbian. (Luckily her relationship with B was so stressful and she was so exhausted all the time that the lack of sex wasnt really commented upon much.)

When B left, she realised that staying with him 'for the kids' was wrong because the kids felt much less stressed out of that tense environment. But she wants B to be able to see the kids, and have a good relationship with them.

B knows A doesnt want to be with a man ever again and just wants to be good friends and coparents. But B thinks A should let him live with her (in her home in Country C) so he can see the kids every day. He refuses to even try and get a job in Country C, even though he probably could now. He wont discuss any other options.

A feels that she wishes she were straight because all the reasons she left him were valid, and she feels they were the right decision. She grew up in a house where parents argued and were stressed and as a result suffered from severe anxiety as a teen. When younger, she always vowed to be brave enough to step away from an environment like that for the sake of her future kids and to set up a strong and positive coparenting system instead.

But B isnt really letting that happen and all he wants is to get back together or live together again at the very least.

Because A has come out, she feels she might come across as selfish and like she broke up the family for this reason, when she didnt. She still cares for B and doesnt want him to hurt too much, but cant bear to live with him again after how awful it was! She also wants to do what is best for the children. (Kids too young to know or understand about sexuality yet.) The sexuality is kind of irrelevant but just adds to A's guilt. A and B can chat now as friends but he never stops going back to asking to get back together,never follows through on promises to send money and never does enough for the kids including plan visits. But he blames her for all of this as she ended things.

Any advice?

If B is that keen on seeing the kids, he can move to country C and rent a place by himself. And pay for it himself. Btw he sounds like an utterly shite father and I am not detecting his ‘keenness’ re seeing kids at all from the post.

A and kids already are settled in country C, they carry on with their lives as they are and B can do whatever the heck he wants but away from C’s house.

Allowing him to live with kids and C in their house would be a huge mistake. This person will never ever step up and be an equal partner and you will have a hard time getting rid of him. Kids will grow up and move out, B won’t. If B moves in, he is for life. He’s there to use A.

The fact A came out is irrelevant in all of this. There was no happy ending with B regardless who A is sexually attracted to.

B sounds so limp and useless, a leech.

Lucieintheskywithdiamonds · 20/03/2026 04:42

Thank you so much for these replies. I cant tell you how therapeutic this thread has been. I really needed to hear this and really didnt expect to. 😭

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Runningtokeepstilll · 20/03/2026 05:02

Well said.
It’s not a complicated split at all. It’s clear cut that you shouldn’t let this loser move back in with you.

Runningtokeepstilll · 20/03/2026 05:21

Fends · 18/03/2026 14:00

He’s not sad 🤣 what the fuck are you talking about. Just cause he tells you he’s sad, he’s showing you a million times over that he couldn’t give two shits! About you or the kids.

Get a grip and get a divorce. In either order.

He will probably try to find someone else to leach off when he finally accepts that you will not take him back.

Aabbcc1235 · 20/03/2026 06:32

When you are seperated, it is really important that the kids have a realistic view of both parents because otherwise they hit teenage years and have more control over communication they think it is their fault when their parent suddenly becomes unreliable or unresponsive.

So, in your position I would take a step back.

If he rings your phone and you’re with the kids pass it across to them to answer. If you’re not with the kids, don’t answer. Tell him, once, a weeklyday and time when he can ring the kids. If he asks about speaking to them, remind him. Don’t push him or encourage him.

Tell him that he is welcome to visit the kids whenever he wants, and that you will contribute to the flight and Airbnb. Don’t organise or encourage or book it for him, leave the ball in his court.

Chatsbots · 20/03/2026 08:52

Why does she need to continue funding his visits?

And I agree, it's not complicated at all. You can physically facilitate his relationship with the DC by agreeing to access. But he's responsible for his own logistical and financial arrangements. He's not a pet that needs looking after.

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