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Financial prenuptial proposal

57 replies

Wondernotwander · 04/03/2026 22:42

Although I believe that context makes all the difference, I will make it fairly brief, as I would like to get feedback for this proposal mostly on its own merrit.
I'll say this much: we've met approx 4 years ago. The relationship has had many ups and downs, including months of breaking up multiple times.

I own a small home but struggle to get by on a day to day basis and have several k's in cc debt; he has equity on a shared house from a previous marriage but doesn't own otherwise. He does have significant savings and although he isn't a very high earner, makes a decently comfortable living.
Finances, specifically his anxiety around my debt and lack of resources has always been one of the big issues in our relationship. In fact, it's caused him to be "more cautious" with spending on me or even on us (as in nice dates out, especially earlier on in our relationship) as he felt I don't have the resources to contribute or reciprocate. (Thus any financial decision making so far hasn't exactly been mutual, but since I have less I mostly accepted that, it made sense. I dont know that "mutual decision making" will trully be mutual. But thats already entering more on the dynamics of the relationship)

All feedback, analysis and suggestions are welcome. Whether on the proposal or what ot may say about the relationship.

Here is the proposal:

Our Financial Understanding

Before you read it, I want you to know how much I love you and that I don’t ever want to get divorced again. Life is too short — we have suffered enough. I want us to grow stronger and stronger together and build the peaceful, loving life we both deserve.

Paradoxically, working through a scenario where we might separate can create space for us to stay together from a place of love and connection, rather than feeling trapped - whether financially or otherwise.

Income After Marriage

Once we’re married, both our incomes will go into a new joint account from which our ongoing living expenses will be paid.
We’ll make decisions together equally about how it’s spent, no matter who earns more.
We will live within our means, avoid debt at all costs, and build savings for emergencies, vacations, and retirement.
Significant purchases ($ -?) will always be discussed together.
If we were ever to separate, any savings accumulated in the joint account would be divided equally between us.

Debt

I want us to build our future on a clean financial slate. We'll consolidate your existing credit card debt, and I'll do my best to get support to pay it off — or cover it myself if needed. So that from day one, our financial interests are aligned, and we're fully focused on building our life together.
If we separate in the future, you would repay what I personally covered, excluding any funds that came from outside assistance.

Pre-Marriage Assets

Anything we each bring into the marriage — savings, investments, businesses, retirement accounts, or other assets — remains that person’s separate property.
These assets will not be considered joint property now or in the future.

Your Home in --

You will retain full ownership of your home in ----.
At the beginning of our marriage, we plan to spend part of the week and some weekends in a ----, so your children can adjust gradually.
The mortgage and regular monthly expenses (utilities, insurance, standard upkeep) will be paid from our joint account as long as maintaining two homes is financially sustainable based on our combined income.
If maintaining two homes becomes financially unsustainable — including if either of us is no longer working full time — we will rent the --- home to reduce financial strain.
Any capital expenses beyond regular monthly utility costs will be tracked and treated as a reimbursable contribution in the event of separation or sale.
If the home is rented, rental income will first cover the mortgage and property costs, and any excess will go into our joint account. If the home is rented, rental income will first cover the mortgage and property costs. Any remaining net rental income will remain your separate property.
If we separate, any appreciation in the value of the -- home remains entirely yours.

Buying a Future Home Together

If we purchase a future home together, each person’s initial contribution (such as a down payment from separate savings) will remain that person’s separate equity in the property.
Mortgage payments made from our joint account will build shared equity for both of us.
In the event of a separation, the property will be divided proportionally based on each person’s initial contribution plus the shared equity built through joint payments, and any appreciation will be allocated accordingly.

OP posts:
BoxOfCats · 04/03/2026 23:22

Why do you want to marry this guy at all? It doesn’t sound like a healthy relationship to start with.

CatherinedeBourgh · 04/03/2026 23:27

Actually sounds more than fair and if anything beneficial to you.

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/03/2026 23:29

‘Reimbursable’? No. Building up an imaginary debt to your husband sounds batshit.

I wouldn’t marry him. I probably wouldn’t date him.

It sounds like you have kids and he doesn’t.

OhWhatABeautifulDay · 04/03/2026 23:29

Dear god. Is he an auditor, by any chance?

DurinsBane · 04/03/2026 23:33

It’s very formal, but what he is suggesting sounds far. He doesn’t want to have separate finances, so that is good

OhWhatABeautifulDay · 04/03/2026 23:36

At the moment "pre nups" aren't a legal thing in the UK. But a judge might take one into consideration if all parties entered into it with independent legal advice.

If you want to have some fun, you could sign it without taking any independent legal advice. Which would render it null and void.

😉

ChoosingMyOwnRandomUsername · 04/03/2026 23:38

You ever seen Hamilton op?

'Be careful with that one love, he will do what it takes to survive'.

Strong vibes here.

PheasantandAstronomers · 04/03/2026 23:38

So, is there an actual marriage proposal going alongside this financial proposal?

It seems to me that the key things are (1) why have you broken up several times for periods of several months in a four year relationship? And (2) what are the children adjusting to? Are you moving yours to be with him? Does he have children?

exhaustDAD · 04/03/2026 23:39

Well, at least the agreement doesn't sound like it's from a dramatic movie where the evil husband-to-be wants to claw into the heroine's finances... What he outlined seems fair at first glance...
However, disregarding the agreement, you have met 4 years ago, with multiple ups and downs including months of breaking up multiple times, as you say. Why would you flip a coin? Within a 4 year span, a relatively short relationship, you already broken up multiple times. Are the issues that caused these breakups solved and gone?

Negroany · 04/03/2026 23:45

Tedious.

NorthXNorthWest · 04/03/2026 23:54

CatherinedeBourgh · 04/03/2026 23:27

Actually sounds more than fair and if anything beneficial to you.

This.

As long and your fiancé is not tight and you maintain separate accounts for personal spending, it's not a red flag. Breaking up and getting back together again is.

helfullhand · 04/03/2026 23:55

Wondernotwander · 04/03/2026 22:42

Although I believe that context makes all the difference, I will make it fairly brief, as I would like to get feedback for this proposal mostly on its own merrit.
I'll say this much: we've met approx 4 years ago. The relationship has had many ups and downs, including months of breaking up multiple times.

I own a small home but struggle to get by on a day to day basis and have several k's in cc debt; he has equity on a shared house from a previous marriage but doesn't own otherwise. He does have significant savings and although he isn't a very high earner, makes a decently comfortable living.
Finances, specifically his anxiety around my debt and lack of resources has always been one of the big issues in our relationship. In fact, it's caused him to be "more cautious" with spending on me or even on us (as in nice dates out, especially earlier on in our relationship) as he felt I don't have the resources to contribute or reciprocate. (Thus any financial decision making so far hasn't exactly been mutual, but since I have less I mostly accepted that, it made sense. I dont know that "mutual decision making" will trully be mutual. But thats already entering more on the dynamics of the relationship)

All feedback, analysis and suggestions are welcome. Whether on the proposal or what ot may say about the relationship.

Here is the proposal:

Our Financial Understanding

Before you read it, I want you to know how much I love you and that I don’t ever want to get divorced again. Life is too short — we have suffered enough. I want us to grow stronger and stronger together and build the peaceful, loving life we both deserve.

Paradoxically, working through a scenario where we might separate can create space for us to stay together from a place of love and connection, rather than feeling trapped - whether financially or otherwise.

Income After Marriage

Once we’re married, both our incomes will go into a new joint account from which our ongoing living expenses will be paid.
We’ll make decisions together equally about how it’s spent, no matter who earns more.
We will live within our means, avoid debt at all costs, and build savings for emergencies, vacations, and retirement.
Significant purchases ($ -?) will always be discussed together.
If we were ever to separate, any savings accumulated in the joint account would be divided equally between us.

Debt

I want us to build our future on a clean financial slate. We'll consolidate your existing credit card debt, and I'll do my best to get support to pay it off — or cover it myself if needed. So that from day one, our financial interests are aligned, and we're fully focused on building our life together.
If we separate in the future, you would repay what I personally covered, excluding any funds that came from outside assistance.

Pre-Marriage Assets

Anything we each bring into the marriage — savings, investments, businesses, retirement accounts, or other assets — remains that person’s separate property.
These assets will not be considered joint property now or in the future.

Your Home in --

You will retain full ownership of your home in ----.
At the beginning of our marriage, we plan to spend part of the week and some weekends in a ----, so your children can adjust gradually.
The mortgage and regular monthly expenses (utilities, insurance, standard upkeep) will be paid from our joint account as long as maintaining two homes is financially sustainable based on our combined income.
If maintaining two homes becomes financially unsustainable — including if either of us is no longer working full time — we will rent the --- home to reduce financial strain.
Any capital expenses beyond regular monthly utility costs will be tracked and treated as a reimbursable contribution in the event of separation or sale.
If the home is rented, rental income will first cover the mortgage and property costs, and any excess will go into our joint account. If the home is rented, rental income will first cover the mortgage and property costs. Any remaining net rental income will remain your separate property.
If we separate, any appreciation in the value of the -- home remains entirely yours.

Buying a Future Home Together

If we purchase a future home together, each person’s initial contribution (such as a down payment from separate savings) will remain that person’s separate equity in the property.
Mortgage payments made from our joint account will build shared equity for both of us.
In the event of a separation, the property will be divided proportionally based on each person’s initial contribution plus the shared equity built through joint payments, and any appreciation will be allocated accordingly.

Some of the points I like amd they are fair.
Your things/finance/assets are yours and his are his pre marriage ones.
Anything like finance of each also remains of their own. Nothing giving nothing taking.
Joint acpunt split 50/50.
Marital residence, one buys out the other or sell and have 50/50 equity or one person lives in the house and continue to maintain and pay the mortgage - provide timescale to sell and any proceeds from the sale will be shared 50/50.
Hope that helps

Hivernal · 05/03/2026 00:02

The phrasing is a bit wanky but the actual terms seem fair enough - pooling income, he'll help pay off your debts and you both keep the assets you brought to the relationship. Talking about finances like this isn't romantic but if you both have children from previous relationships it makes sense to protect yourself financially. Personally I wouldn't marry someone with thousands in debt.

More importantly, is your relationship stable enough to be looking at marriage? Have the reasons for the previous breakups been resolved? Do you need to get married, what's wrong with dating?

Wondernotwander · 05/03/2026 00:03

Can you elaborate more?

I'm particularly afraid of having to repay cc debt if things don't work out. Because A. It'll make me indebted to him indefinitely. B. If things don't work out it may keep me stuck if I don't have the funds to repay.

Is this unreasonable of me? (Should I just hold off on the marriage until I pay the debt in full, in which case, he would not sit around waiting any longer.)

OP posts:
Wondernotwander · 05/03/2026 00:05

CatherinedeBourgh · 04/03/2026 23:27

Actually sounds more than fair and if anything beneficial to you.

Can you elaborate more?
I'm particularly afraid of having to repay cc debt if things don't work out. Because A. It'll make me indebted to him indefinitely. B. If things don't work out it may keep me stuck if I don't have the funds to repay.

Is this unreasonable of me? (Should I just hold off on the marriage until I pay the debt in full, in which case, he would not sit around waiting any longer.)

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Wondernotwander · 05/03/2026 00:07

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/03/2026 23:29

‘Reimbursable’? No. Building up an imaginary debt to your husband sounds batshit.

I wouldn’t marry him. I probably wouldn’t date him.

It sounds like you have kids and he doesn’t.

My fear exactly.
( He has kids too, but his relationship with them is very different than mine with my kids. He travels to see them weekly)

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Tiswa · 05/03/2026 00:11

Transactional and hard work - it sounds as if nothing in this relationship is easy and even though long term relationships do need nurturing this is a whole other level

and you are moving your children for this?

MarginWalker · 05/03/2026 00:16

How is he when it comes to making financial decisions on the day to day?

NorthXNorthWest · 05/03/2026 00:18

Wondernotwander · 05/03/2026 00:03

Can you elaborate more?

I'm particularly afraid of having to repay cc debt if things don't work out. Because A. It'll make me indebted to him indefinitely. B. If things don't work out it may keep me stuck if I don't have the funds to repay.

Is this unreasonable of me? (Should I just hold off on the marriage until I pay the debt in full, in which case, he would not sit around waiting any longer.)

you have a few options

You can pay an amount in to a savings account until it reaches the level of your current cc debt. Hold on to it let it gain interest and if the marriage breaks down you have the funds to pay him back.

Pay the debt off to him on a monthly, starting after the marriage, ideally on an interest free basis.

Agree what the repayment terms (ideally interest free) would be as part of the prenup. That way you have clarity of what it will look like.

Wondernotwander · 05/03/2026 00:18

PheasantandAstronomers · 04/03/2026 23:38

So, is there an actual marriage proposal going alongside this financial proposal?

It seems to me that the key things are (1) why have you broken up several times for periods of several months in a four year relationship? And (2) what are the children adjusting to? Are you moving yours to be with him? Does he have children?

#1 is a bit complex and would require more elaborate response so I'll skip to for now #2:
The adjustment would be the type of community I live in with my children (fairly sheltered religious) vs the type of community he lives in (religious but quite modern). There is proximity, too - approx 45 min drive. I myself am less religious but fought hard to retain a presence and relationship within my children's lives. They are grown - youngest is 20, however, remaining local may still make a difference in my relationship with DC turns out long term.

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Wondernotwander · 05/03/2026 00:20

exhaustDAD · 04/03/2026 23:39

Well, at least the agreement doesn't sound like it's from a dramatic movie where the evil husband-to-be wants to claw into the heroine's finances... What he outlined seems fair at first glance...
However, disregarding the agreement, you have met 4 years ago, with multiple ups and downs including months of breaking up multiple times, as you say. Why would you flip a coin? Within a 4 year span, a relatively short relationship, you already broken up multiple times. Are the issues that caused these breakups solved and gone?

The issues are a lot better, but not entirely solved and gone 😞

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Wondernotwander · 05/03/2026 00:20

ChoosingMyOwnRandomUsername · 04/03/2026 23:38

You ever seen Hamilton op?

'Be careful with that one love, he will do what it takes to survive'.

Strong vibes here.

Insightful!

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hottednews · 05/03/2026 00:23

How much exactly is the debt? Do you have a budget or plan yourself? MSE website is brilliant for this.

£9700 or £1500?

Whatever happens in your relationship, you need to aim to live below your current budget or earn more until this is paid off.

It can be so easy to overspend on things, and now the cost of basics has gone up. But once you get used to being frugal its much easier.

It sounds like you expected your boyfriend to spend "on you" or on dates whilst you haven't prioritised sorting your own finances.

Over 4 years you could have cleared this rather than worrying about how much your dates cost.

Wondernotwander · 05/03/2026 00:27

MarginWalker · 05/03/2026 00:16

How is he when it comes to making financial decisions on the day to day?

He's on the frugal side. We don't share finances so far.

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NorthXNorthWest · 05/03/2026 00:28

Your posts are making my head hurt. Why the drip feed? Can you just post it all.

Also, this sounds much more complicated than money. You have brought your children up as part of a sheltered and religious community, you are in debt and struggle with money and you want to share your life with a modern religious man, who is financially prudent - unless there is evidence he is frugal (red flag). The prenup seems like it would be the least of your problems.

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