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Online Emotional Affair - Maybe? Is it cheating???

49 replies

Lalallals248 · 29/01/2026 17:05

I'm writing this in complete desperation. I just need a real person's - a real, impartial person's - outlook on my life and the mess that I fear it has become.
I got with my husband in 2011. We married in 2016. From 2011 until 2016, there were repeated instances of my husband speaking to another woman - we'll call her Mary - and I stupidly forgave each and every one because they were just 'online'. Just him, an adult, going on games from 7pm until 2am, and, in the midst of killing imaginary monsters, messaging a woman for sexual chats and pictures.
After 2016, I thought everything had stopped. I didn't even think to check, and I'm so ashamed for that. So ashamed. So embarrassed. I genuinely trusted him. We had another child, and life moved on. I accepted his narrative that I was controlling and possessive because I didn't think a marriage should look like one partner on their own every evening and the other on a game, far away. I just thought I was a hopeless romantic - a pathetic idiot who wanted a fantasy. Sex became a chore. 'If I have sex with you, can I game?' became a common mantra. Nothing exciting or passionate. Just me, unloved, and him saying that he had a low sex drive. Wasn't interested.
Fast forward to 2023. I'm pregnant with our third child. I find a message saying 'I miss you'. It's from him, but he gaslights me into believing that WhatsApp ticks appear when a message is received. Doesn't let that go for days, until I prove him wrong. Denies it's Mary. Until I find a snapchat account. Then it's all Mary. Bit suspicious. I log in; naked pics and vids of my friend. Her face saved. Disappeared chats. I message her: months, at least (neither seem to know the timeline), of sex chats and pics.
An OnlyFans account. Using our money to pay for sexual content while ignoring me. Telling other women they're perfect when I'm dramatic for wanting to be called pretty.
I ask: anything else you want to tell me - anything more? Nope. Just sex chats to your friend and one 'stupid' message to the other woman. Forgiveness. Boundaries enforced. No porn (since he said everything was 'just porn' to him).
Fast forward to now. I find porn on his laptop - a Fansly account now. Pornstars subscribed to. And Mary's number. I email her. She says she wants to be honest.
And the reality is that for the entirety of our marriage, my husband has been sexually messaging another woman, asking her for pics and videos. Most they'd go without speaking is a months - not years. Engaging in sexual conversations for the kicks of it. While I'm upstairs in bed, feeling unwanted (because I've always felt unwanted; I just sucked it up). Having her present on Skype calls while he's gaming because he wants her company. Just wanting her to be there. Call logs of phone calls shared during my pregnancy. Secret Twitter accounts. Declarations of love. Hotels booked; anger from him that she wouldn't show. His fears she was catfishing him because she'd never come when he'd sort something. But never his rejection. Never him going away. Videos made of them both - masturbating together and sending each other vids. Shared moments. Online, yes, so maybe I'm pathetic. Maybe I am over-reacting.
He says I'm making it bigger than it is in my head. That it's online, so nothing. Just online stuff. Not real.
I've had four weeks off work collapsing over this and the mental breakdown it's caused me to suffer. I've had to tell work today what's up. I'm so ashamed and embarrassed. Terrified that they'll think me stupid because it's 'just online'.
My husband 'can't remember' anything and 'doesn't know' why he did it.
Urgh.
Please. Tell me if I'm crazy. Tell me if I'm dramatic.

OP posts:
Ahsheeit · 29/01/2026 17:12

He's disgusting. This is just as bad as a physical affair and don't let him tell you any different. You're underreacting if anything. The shame and embarrassment is all on him, not you.

You have decisions to make, as he's not going to change. He doesn't want to.

Tinsofbeans · 29/01/2026 17:12

You're not crazy. He's disgusting and a cheat. It's not for you to be ashamed. It's all.on him. You trusted him. He betrayed that trust.
I'm so sorry.

OchreRaven · 29/01/2026 17:16

I’m so sorry he has gaslit you so much you actually had to ask this question.

Put it like this, if tonight you sent a nude pic or a video of you masturbating to one of his friends and he found out would he be like ‘cool it was just over the internet, it wasn’t real life.’

He sounds abusive. There is much more to life and a relationship than what he has convinced you to accept.

I'm so sorry you have had to live like this. But you are not a victim. You are in charge of your life. Make decisions that align with what you want from your life.

Hatty65 · 29/01/2026 17:16

My marriage would be over in your position. He has betrayed you repeatedly, over and over again and lied about it.

There's no coming back from that. He's not worth hanging on to. Don't get hung up on whether you are being 'dramatic' or 'it's not really cheating'. It is and you are not.

But frankly he could be the nicest, most loving man in the world and you could decide that you can no longer stand the way he neatly folds his trousers and underpants before sex and you are leaving. You don't need a justification. Not wanting to be with him any longer is enough - even if he has done nothing wrong.

But he has, and you should look at divorce.

TwentyFourHoursToTulsa · 29/01/2026 17:18

This is so awful OP, on so many levels. You are not in the wrong here. He is.

Mom2K · 29/01/2026 17:23

I divorced my exH for this. It IS cheating and they never change. I had two young kids at the time. Life is so much better and happier now.

Put it this way - he says it's not cheating because it was only online - but does that matter? No it doesn't, because what matters is how this has made you feel. And if you don't leave, you'll feel like this for the rest of your life. You don't deserve to be in a crap marriage with a selfish pig. Get out and carve a happier life for you and your children. Yes it hurts now, but you'll be happier in the long run without him when you've had space to heal from this. hug

Boomer55 · 29/01/2026 17:27

Emotional affairs can be more powerful than some physical affairs.

What you do is up to you, obviously, but it is a form of cheating.

Miriamfriend · 29/01/2026 17:30

This is horrendous. What an absolute bastard. Not just the ongoing cheating but the lies and gaslighting of you. So sorry you are having to deal with this. I hope you can have a friend you can open up to
and get some support from (outside of here, I mean)

PatchouliPrincess · 29/01/2026 17:43

I cannot think of one solitary reason for you to stay with this cheating piece of shit. He is utterly vile and he won't change.

Leave him. There's so many good men in the world still (if you even want another man).
You have your whole life ahead of you to live and be happy and you can't do that if you stay with him.

Endofyear · 29/01/2026 17:43

He's gaslighting you. What he's been doing is unforgivable and you should divorce him. I don't say LTB lightly but in this case you've forgiven him too many times already and you need to end this relationship now.

Kidsgotothatschool · 29/01/2026 17:44

Don't you realise you deserve so much better than this abusive creep?!

Honestly, you DESERVE to be loved and have a fulfilling relationship.

You need to be your own best friend and start making plans to get away from this nasty creepy individual! Of course he’s cheating.

I’m so angry on your behalf!

TwistedWonder · 29/01/2026 17:49

He’s a disgusting lying cheating sleazy old creep. Of course wanking on FaceTime is cheating.

You’re under reacting if anything not to have kicked his skanky arse put first time round.

He will do this non stop because so far there’s no consequences to his grubby behaviour and he’s gaslit you into being a doormat

Whatwouldnanado · 29/01/2026 17:50

Vile. Get rid. You and your children deserve so much better.

flippertygibbet4 · 29/01/2026 17:52

You know the answer. He's shown you what he's like and the fact that you are not his priority. If you need mumsnet to give you permission to leave him, then you have it here in all the responses. Choose yourself. Respect yourself. You are worth so much more than this hateful, disgusting, disrespectful treatment.

CrustyBread1977 · 29/01/2026 17:56

Gaslighting cheating piece of shit.

See a lawyer, find out what you’re entitled to, divorce his sorry arse.

I divorced one of these a few years ago - felt so stupid to have stuck with him for as long as I did. But boy have I got my self respect back for finally calling a halt!

Lalallals248 · 29/01/2026 17:57

Thank you all. Thank you so much. I have been so ashamed and embarrassed since that call to work that they are all going to think I am the world's biggest drama queen.
He has said tonight that he did it because he enjoyed chatting like that to other women, but she could have been anyone. So great to know he would have cheated on me with any woman who looked his way.
I am so sad. So sad. I have wasted so much of my life on someone. I have internalised so much hate and guilt and shame. I have felt bad for being depressed but now when I look back I dont even think it was depression; I think it was a natural reaction to being completely emotionally abandoned and neglected.
I have basically spent my entire adult life without love.

OP posts:
cinnamongirl123 · 29/01/2026 18:00

This can’t be real - there is so much betrayal and you’ve already let him get away with so much! Why have 1, 2, 3 children with him? Why marry him? How can you stay with him, even be in the same room with him? He’s disgusting. Please find your self-respect and begin the separation process.

BreezyPeachGoose · 29/01/2026 18:03

You have everything you need to now draw a line and move on with the next chapter of your life, without him.

Kidsgotothatschool · 29/01/2026 18:03

The ‘she could have been anyone’ is said to make you feel like you matter more, that somewhere you were important, better than those other women because they are ‘nothing’. It’s a sick piece of twisted nonsense. What he’s actually saying is ‘I MATTER MORE, I’m selfish and entitled and got my sick kicks knowing that you didn’t know, it felt powerful and fun’

Come my revolution these validation seeking creeps would be first against the wall!

He has taken some years that is true, don’t let him take another moment of your precious life with your precious children. Throw this slimy fish back where he belongs!

cinnamongirl123 · 29/01/2026 18:06

How old are you roughly now OP? Your life starts now! Try not to be too depressed about lost time wasted on a bad relationship - many of us have that! Almost a decade of the best years of my life wasted on a man who didn’t love me. We live and learn. Porn in any form
is an absolute NO for me now. As they often say on Mumsnet, find your anger. You deserve to be treasured. And in the meantime, as I say, it’s better to be alone than to be with a dirtbag! Good luck OP!

Lalallals248 · 29/01/2026 18:09

cinnamongirl123 · 29/01/2026 18:00

This can’t be real - there is so much betrayal and you’ve already let him get away with so much! Why have 1, 2, 3 children with him? Why marry him? How can you stay with him, even be in the same room with him? He’s disgusting. Please find your self-respect and begin the separation process.

I know. I know. My answer is because it was online and he told me I was over reacting. I have been with him since I was 16. Idk. Looking back, there was so much gaslighting, so much telling me I was the problem all the time. It is actually painful for me now reading back over my life. Like I just want to go back in time and rescue myself. I know. I am so ashamed of myself for being a complete mug.
With the pregnancies, the first 2 were in quick succession. After I had my 2nd, I didnt find any cheating until 2023. By that point I was already 8 months pregnant with my third child. One of the main origins of my anger currently is how he could get me pregnant knowing that, by that point, he had 2 women and was paying for online sex stuff. One of the most traumatic things is my 3rd pregnancy. How it shouldn't have happened and how it - and my time with my newborn - was totally ruined.

OP posts:
Lalallals248 · 29/01/2026 18:12

cinnamongirl123 · 29/01/2026 18:06

How old are you roughly now OP? Your life starts now! Try not to be too depressed about lost time wasted on a bad relationship - many of us have that! Almost a decade of the best years of my life wasted on a man who didn’t love me. We live and learn. Porn in any form
is an absolute NO for me now. As they often say on Mumsnet, find your anger. You deserve to be treasured. And in the meantime, as I say, it’s better to be alone than to be with a dirtbag! Good luck OP!

I am 31, been with him since I was 16.
I think me being so young explains why the gaslighting was so effective. I turned 17 very quickly after we met. He was 22.

OP posts:
AgathaX · 29/01/2026 18:23

Don't be ashamed. You have no need to be. You've tried your hardest to build a relationship, a family, a home. All the time he was actively destroying it. Doing what he wanted, when he wanted. Rejecting you and your DC, living his life online but also trying to live it in the present with the other woman too. Using your family money, taking your family time. What an appalling excuse for a man.
But, tomorrow is a new day. Make it the start of your new life, of a better life for your kids.
Plan. What do you need to do to separate? Maybe get some legal advice. Talk to family or friends if you can. Make it real. Get support.
Ignore his tantrums, his gaslighting, his blaming. Ignore him. He's done with. Move on.

exhaustDAD · 29/01/2026 19:00

Run fast and far away, @Lalallals248 I am so sorry this is the treatment your husband is giving you. Absolutely revolting. He doesn't respect your relationship, or you. And you deserve better. Absolutely no point in continuing the torture. He doesn't deserve the energy you put into agonising over this. A man should never do the things he has done to you, and say the things he has..

Jb197806 · 29/01/2026 19:08

Sounds an awful man he can never be trusted get rid.

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