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Beckham family rift — does anyone else see parallels with their own family dynamics?

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trufflesandolives · 26/12/2025 23:27

I don’t usually care at all about celebrities’ personal lives, but the ongoing reports about the Beckham family rift have struck a nerve for me, because I see parallels with my own family situation and I’d genuinely like to hear others’ perspectives.

From the outside, the situation involving David Beckham, Victoria Beckham, their son Brooklyn Beckham and his wife Nicola Peltz feels less like a simple “toxic parents vs grown-up child setting boundaries” story, and more complex than that.

In my personal opinion (happy to be challenged), it appears that Brooklyn’s wife wants a very high level of control over him and that her family’s wealth and status may be contributing to an enmeshment into the Peltz family — effectively pulling him away from his own family rather than helping him form a balanced, independent adult life with space for both sides.

This resonates painfully with my own experience, where a partner entering the picture didn’t just create distance but seemed to actively consolidate loyalty and control, often under the guise of “healthy boundaries” or “protecting the couple.”

I’m not suggesting anyone here actually knows what’s going on behind closed doors — we obviously don’t. But I’m curious how others read this dynamic:
• Do you see this as a fairly typical family rupture once children grow up and marry?
• Or does it look more like enmeshment and isolation from the original family?
• How do you tell the difference between a partner helping someone individuate versus quietly taking over their emotional world?

I’d really value thoughtful perspectives, especially from those who’ve lived through something similar on either side.

OP posts:
Lovenliving · 28/12/2025 10:02

UneAnneeSansLumiere · 28/12/2025 10:00

At least your sister has the self awareness to realise what occured. I don't actually think she did anything wrong, as I agree that the wife's family comes first. I am fond of my MIL but in no way would I expect to treat her equally to my mother: if I had a child there is no way I would try to make things equal between her and my mother, my mother would have been the main grandmother and that's that. The only problem would be if your sister then tries to whine and guilt her son and DIL into behaving differently than she did herself in their position.

I dont know that she does tbh. Others can see what went wrong but she would not admit that she shut her MIL out loud. She would blame other things. I will come back to explain in detail. Battery dying. In bath.

Icouldwriteabookonmydisastrouslife · 28/12/2025 10:03

Titillateanocelot · 27/12/2025 00:58

Absolutely! I could have written your exact post. Without going into too much details. Male relative very close to his family his whole life. Met a girl. Now has cut contact completely with everyone except her. Completely changed his personality even down to the food he eats, his lifestyle, interests to suit her etc. Blocked us on social media etc, doesn't attend any family events. No reason given. She's very controlling and jealous and now has him all to herself. He doesn't even have friends anymore that aren't her friends.

This is also the situation with my DS . He used to be very close to his Nan , even choosing his flat nearby her which the new gf hates and is trying to get him to move and posts on social media asking people if they want to exchange with him . We didn’t even see him Christmas Day which hurt my Mum a lot . He spent it with her family , He’s lost loads of weight since being with her coz she’s about 6 stone and kept bullying him calling him a fat b like she calls our family . If I’ve heard the word fat 100 times out of her mouth to describe us coz she’s a child basically . He’s got no friends anymore and he’s sold all of his Xbox stuff and isn’t allowed to smoke or vape anymore either. She’s moved into his flat and got rid of all of his stuff and even tried to make him get rid of his £400 bed because he used to live there with his ex girlfriend.

She writes social media posts slagging us off and when family members defend us she alters the posts to make it look like awww look all your family are starting trouble I didn’t say anything bad about them . We’ve even sent him the screenshots of the posts and he doesn’t believe she’s said it . And her family tell him we are a disgrace and they love him more than his own family . He didn’t even see his own Son on his 1st birthday yet she’s got a brother a couple of weeks younger and he left visiting us coz he had to go and see the brother on his 1st birthday yet!!!
She’s a horrible piece of work and he’s losing his family coz of her but he seems happy to do that so I’m going to let him carry on .

its weird coz he’s quite a controlling person , he always tries to control women in general , me , his nan , his sister yet in a relationship he’s the one who always ends up being controlled ,

UneAnneeSansLumiere · 28/12/2025 10:04

Puffykins · 27/12/2025 18:40

Also - and this is partly in response to a PP - yes, poss VB and DB did make mistakes letting their kids grow up too much in the public eye - but... V was 25 when Brooklyn was born. Fame was new to them and their families (they are not the royals who have had generations of experience!) and the tabloid way of working (it was moving into peak phone hacking practice - and the era of the newspapers going out to find Euan Blair getting drunk) was new to everyone. Social media was new. It's so easy with hindsight to say "oh, this shouldn't have happened" etc. - but no one really understood what was being dealt with. There wasn't a blueprint for raising famous kids in the age of Instagram and brand building.

Oh come off it. VB is the ultimate media manipulator.

Dery · 28/12/2025 10:21

Not about VB’s parenting but I think indicative of the person: a friend of a friend’s young daughter was a huge fan of the Spice Girls in the 1990s. The family lived in a village near VB’s home. The young girl’s parents sent the Spice Girls’ agents a 6th birthday card in a stamped addressed envelope and asked if the Spice Girls could possibly sign it and if it could be posted back, saying it would mean so much to their little girl. No card arrives. The birthday dawns. Still no card. Around midday, the doorbell rings. On the doorstep is VB, hand-delivering the card. Best birthday present ever for the little girl. I don’t pay much attention to the Beckhams but underneath all the noise, i get the impression they are kind and caring. Not perfect but no-one is.

SomethingFun · 28/12/2025 10:22

It must be hard if you’re a nepo baby without much going for you - Brooklyn reminds me of Prince Harry in that respect. However he has managed to marry a beautiful daughter of a billionaire so I don’t think he’ll be living on cold beans in a squat even if he never finds his talent.

The Beckhams seem nice enough on their reality shows but Victoria has an eating disorder and they do seem to work a lot and maybe shag around a lot so I imagine it isn’t the most functional family upbringing without adding fame and fortune on top of that.

KatyaKat · 28/12/2025 10:25

That's a very interesting question. My ILs I'm sure view it as me being involved in their DS not seeing them much; the truth is that it was always me saying we should go see your family, which we did, they never visited us, always had reasons not to.

We moved closer to my family (& further from DH's), at my DH's suggestion, not mine - I'm sure they think it was my idea. We continued to visit them (again, at my suggestion!), until our second child was a toddler, but then, with no effort the other way, I decided I was no longer prepared to trek across the country with toddlers/small children, but he was always welcome to go with or without the kids, and did a couple of times. Still no visits back to us, despite me reminding DH to invite them.

So, outwardly, I'm sure his family do see it as me preventing him from seeing them, but the truth is that he just can't be bothered, and sadly nor can they.

Who knows what's going on with BB & NP...but it might not be all her!

Itsmetheflamingo · 28/12/2025 11:36

Dery · 28/12/2025 10:21

Not about VB’s parenting but I think indicative of the person: a friend of a friend’s young daughter was a huge fan of the Spice Girls in the 1990s. The family lived in a village near VB’s home. The young girl’s parents sent the Spice Girls’ agents a 6th birthday card in a stamped addressed envelope and asked if the Spice Girls could possibly sign it and if it could be posted back, saying it would mean so much to their little girl. No card arrives. The birthday dawns. Still no card. Around midday, the doorbell rings. On the doorstep is VB, hand-delivering the card. Best birthday present ever for the little girl. I don’t pay much attention to the Beckhams but underneath all the noise, i get the impression they are kind and caring. Not perfect but no-one is.

I have to say- this is properly gorgeous. What a lovely thing to do

Dery · 28/12/2025 11:55

“ I don't actually think she did anything wrong, as I agree that the wife's family comes first. I am fond of my MIL but in no way would I expect to treat her equally to my mother: if I had a child there is no way I would try to make things equal between her and my mother, my mother would have been the main grandmother and that's that.”

@UneAnneeSansLumiere (great name, btw) I don’t agree the wife’s family comes first. Maybe you only have daughters and therefore have no concerns about reaping what you sow. I also only have daughters but i still disagree.

My parents role-modelled a great relationship with both sets of their parents and DH and i have done the same. As a result, our DDs have enjoyed excellent relationships with all 5 grandparents (my parents divorced after a long marriage and my mum remarried some years later). Why wouldn’t you want that for them? Obviously, it’s different if one or other set of parents is dysfunctional/unpleasant but it seems wrong to make it a point of principle. There have been posters on here - mothers of sons - who thought and acted the same as you but, now it’s their turn to be MILs, are not at all enjoying being secondary grandmothers.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 28/12/2025 11:57

Not happened in my extended family, but I think you may be right about what is happening with his wife. I think she is driving the wedge/the rift. I could be wrong obvs! But it is looking that way. It's all so sad really isn't it?

Dery · 28/12/2025 12:00

@Itsmetheflamingo - lovely, isn’t it, and i think it really speaks to VB being a kind and thoughtful person.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 28/12/2025 12:02

@Dery

There have been posters on here - mothers of sons - who thought and acted the same as you but, now it’s their turn to be MILs, are not at all enjoying being secondary grandmothers.

I have noticed that (some) mothers of sons tend to be more 'difficult' than mothers of daughters, and younger women have much more fractious relationships with their MILs than men do with their MILs.

JMO, purely based on what I see around me, and what I read on here, and other message forums... It will not be all of course.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 28/12/2025 12:12

From another perspective, maybe his wife has opened his eyes up to Victoria and David's greed and desperate need for fame, to the extent they basically pimped out their children, thrusting them into the limelight, without a thought of how it might affect them in the future, just to further 'Brand Beckham', for no other reason than making more and more money.

fufulina · 28/12/2025 12:16

It’s common in this scenario to invoke misogyny rule #1: women are responsible for what men do.

My DM believes (still believes?) that my SIL ‘stopped’ my brother seeing my parents and family. Which assumes he is totally without a say in his marriage. Of course, that’s far easier for my mum to believe than the more difficult to understand reality that my brother chooses how little he sees any of us now. His wife has nothing to do with his choices.

UneAnneeSansLumiere · 28/12/2025 12:26

Dery · 28/12/2025 11:55

“ I don't actually think she did anything wrong, as I agree that the wife's family comes first. I am fond of my MIL but in no way would I expect to treat her equally to my mother: if I had a child there is no way I would try to make things equal between her and my mother, my mother would have been the main grandmother and that's that.”

@UneAnneeSansLumiere (great name, btw) I don’t agree the wife’s family comes first. Maybe you only have daughters and therefore have no concerns about reaping what you sow. I also only have daughters but i still disagree.

My parents role-modelled a great relationship with both sets of their parents and DH and i have done the same. As a result, our DDs have enjoyed excellent relationships with all 5 grandparents (my parents divorced after a long marriage and my mum remarried some years later). Why wouldn’t you want that for them? Obviously, it’s different if one or other set of parents is dysfunctional/unpleasant but it seems wrong to make it a point of principle. There have been posters on here - mothers of sons - who thought and acted the same as you but, now it’s their turn to be MILs, are not at all enjoying being secondary grandmothers.

Edited

I don't have children anyway, so it's hypothetical, but it always slightly surprises me when MILs of expect their DILs to involve them as much as they do their own mothers. I don't know any family where that's realistic, even when there is no animosity.

Arran2024 · 28/12/2025 12:29

Dery · 28/12/2025 11:55

“ I don't actually think she did anything wrong, as I agree that the wife's family comes first. I am fond of my MIL but in no way would I expect to treat her equally to my mother: if I had a child there is no way I would try to make things equal between her and my mother, my mother would have been the main grandmother and that's that.”

@UneAnneeSansLumiere (great name, btw) I don’t agree the wife’s family comes first. Maybe you only have daughters and therefore have no concerns about reaping what you sow. I also only have daughters but i still disagree.

My parents role-modelled a great relationship with both sets of their parents and DH and i have done the same. As a result, our DDs have enjoyed excellent relationships with all 5 grandparents (my parents divorced after a long marriage and my mum remarried some years later). Why wouldn’t you want that for them? Obviously, it’s different if one or other set of parents is dysfunctional/unpleasant but it seems wrong to make it a point of principle. There have been posters on here - mothers of sons - who thought and acted the same as you but, now it’s their turn to be MILs, are not at all enjoying being secondary grandmothers.

Edited

I am from the west of Scotland and there is a very popular, old time song there called "Ye cannae shove your granny aff a bus". And it finishes with "you can shove your other granny, cos she's your daddy's mammy".

Seriously. We were brought up with this sentiment - your dad's mother is not that important.

I always found it a bit offensive. My dad's parents lived hundreds of miles away and we saw them twice a year, whereas we saw my mum's parents most days, so we didn't need to choose.

dupers78 · 28/12/2025 12:41

You don’t know how the kids were brought up or what contact they had from their parents

dupers78 · 28/12/2025 13:10

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 27/12/2025 10:46

Slightly, though Dd hasn’t cut us off (yet).

she has a boyfriend who isn’t English and lives abroad. Has a large and very well off family. They seem a lot more exciting than us I guess. She spends all her holidays over there and there is talk of emigrating and marriage. When she’s over there like she is currently most of my messages to her are left on a grey tick, so she doesn’t even read them. She blocked me from her instagram and when I asked why she said “boundaries”. She will message if she needs or wants something but apart from that we barely hear from her.

We’ve always been kind, loving, supportive, there’s been no argument. I don’t guilt trip her about going abroad, I treat her like the adult she is. I’m not negative about stuff. Even the Instagram thing I just laughed it off. We had a good relationship with her when she was younger, no dramas, did plenty of stuff together.

She was always sad about being an only child and wanted a big family. She doesn’t even have cousins. So I think she’s found it elsewhere now and we’re just a bit boring in comparison.

Could you just bypass your dd and build relationships with her parents / family. If you get on with them and they like you she’ll soon realise that she doesn’t need to be so exclusive.

dupers78 · 28/12/2025 13:26

TheSonThief · 27/12/2025 12:07

My MIL would say yes. She regularly accuses me of stealing her son or changing him so that he’s not like them anymore!

If she’s had a drink I’ll get bombarded with texts that are all ‘he’s forgotten his faaaaaamily’ and ‘he was one of us first you can’t erase his roots’ etc etc . Even going as far to say the fact we don’t have dogs is a ‘bad sign’ as they are dog lovers and all have dogs.

She’s made things so toxic that he hardly sees any of them now. Yet they say I’m stopping him (I’m not!) . His cousin did a Claire’s law on me (!) ‘just in case he’s in danger’ then they tried to accuse me of coercive control !

And you’ve called yourself the ‘son theif’! :-D

dupers78 · 28/12/2025 13:32

wizzywig · 27/12/2025 12:33

Don't men just align themselves with whoever feeds them and looks after them? Sex is a cherry on top

No

bumptybum · 28/12/2025 13:36

What amazes me is that Adam Peaty appears to have done the same to his family. The Beckham’s and Ramsey’s are so close. You’d think both the B’s and R’s would have counselled him against doing it

dupers78 · 28/12/2025 13:40

waterrat · 27/12/2025 14:11

It's an odd situation - I agree with the comments that say Brooklyn would not be in a 'toxic ' relationship (if he is) - without some groundwork for that being laid in his own family upbringing. That's sad but a reality.

Look at what is known about the family - the father david cheated repeatedly, multiple humilations of the mother - brooklyn as the oldest would have been most aware of this and probably found it most painful.

We have no idea how that would impact him - or the intrustive nature of the press which he may have hated and is clear in the Beckham documentary was v stressful for him as a young child.

Usually I would assume the person doing the NC in this situation does so for good reason but Nicole does seem power hungry/obsessed with her social perception etc (ie. having the wedding done again??) so Im not sure here that is necessarily clear cut.

however - I have another theory!! that DB has been pervy/ flirted with Nicole (we know he is a womaniser and cheat) - and VB refused to believe it....and that is why NC so brutal.

Im sure if that was the case she would come out and say it

KittyEckersley · 28/12/2025 13:46

I always think that perhaps seeing NP’s family and the wealth they have has made Brooklyn realise that his parents didn’t need to pimp out him and his siblings. Maybe he was willing to put up with it for the lifestyle but now realises there are other ways to make money and thinks that it damaged him.

UneAnneeSansLumiere · 28/12/2025 14:28

dupers78 · 28/12/2025 13:32

No

Absolutely not. Especially not wealthy/famous men who can have their pick of women. This idea that men aren't at all picky about women and will just settle with whoever is a bizarre myth which I hear time and again, there is not truth to it.

Dery · 28/12/2025 15:33

@UneAnneeSansLumiere - it was realistic in my family of origin and my current family. For me, it’s the default. But our family dynamics are pretty easygoing and straightforward.

I completely get that some parents are awful and it is only the incoming DIL or SIL who can liberate the son or daughter from the grasp of their toxic parent(s) but, if that’s not the case, it seems to me that being evenhanded is preferable.

labamba18 · 28/12/2025 17:36

HaveYouFedTheFish · 27/12/2025 11:14

If a young man lets his partner control him it's fairly likely that his family unintentionally prepared the ground by controlling him themselves up until that point.

If the family were relaxed and the young man quietly self confident with healthy self esteem and the ability to make his own decisions, then he'd be making his own decisions and there'd be no big dramas.

Same goes for women too in controlling relationships