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Fed up of men

38 replies

MunchingMum · 20/11/2025 20:57

Some days I feel like they are all the same - selfish.

I’m on the verge of separating from the father of my children because I can’t deal with how he puts himself first financially, emotionally and when it comes to time.

I do the lion’s share of everything. All the shopping. All the cooking. All the school runs, the homework, the housework, the kids parties, the MENTAL LOAD.

And then, whinging to my friend, she’s just burst into tears because her husband has walked out on her and their three kids for another women.

Am going to buy her this. Because his is a NOB.

Sorry for the rant. Just… aurghhhhhhh!!!!

Fed up of men
OP posts:
PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

VoodooQualities · 20/11/2025 21:58

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

Fucking hell, kick her when she's down eh?

MunchingMum · 20/11/2025 22:04

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

My friend had the ‘perfect’ marriage for ten years, until he unexpectedly walked out. We are all in shock.

And mine. Well, maybe you’re right. But people don’t walk around with an honest bio pinned to their jumper. It’s been a slow decline. I did not expect to be in this position. I’ve stepped up. He has not.

OP posts:
MunchingMum · 20/11/2025 22:06

VoodooQualities · 20/11/2025 21:58

Fucking hell, kick her when she's down eh?

Yep. Obviously it’s my fault 🙄

OP posts:
JudgeBread · 20/11/2025 22:06

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

Excellent idea, let's blame the woman for the man ending up being a piece of shit.

JudgeBread · 20/11/2025 22:10

Sorry you ended up with such a selfish turd, there do seem to be so many of them out there. I hope you do separate from him and forge a new life for yourself without the burden of a selfish man holding you back 💐

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 20/11/2025 22:31

JudgeBread · 20/11/2025 22:06

Excellent idea, let's blame the woman for the man ending up being a piece of shit.

Yeah. The fact is the majority of men are unworthy of relationships with women, including the self-declared "nice" guys. They're selfish, infantile, have little self-awareness, are utterly obsessed with their penises, think women are there to serve them, treat women like appliances, are emotionally frail and labile and get angry and scary when they're unhappy, never do anything for others unless it serves them in some way, instantly argue and defend themselves than than listen, blame women for anything that goes wrong in their life, and many of them actually hate women.

It's not the fault of women that they pick loser men, it's that there are so many loser men it's hard to avoid them.

Especially because they're very good at putting on an act in the beginning to snag women - which shows that they DO know how they should behave. But no, once they think they've got the woman trapped through marriage, finances, and/or children, so many of them then openly and without an iota of shame ruthelessly exploit her love and labour.

JHound · 20/11/2025 23:30

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

What a disgusting response

Subwaystop · 21/11/2025 00:29

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

speaking of poor choices… wow! Not a comment that reflects well on your ability to choose what to say when.

A look in the mirror before lecturing others perhaps?

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 21/11/2025 00:56

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 20/11/2025 22:31

Yeah. The fact is the majority of men are unworthy of relationships with women, including the self-declared "nice" guys. They're selfish, infantile, have little self-awareness, are utterly obsessed with their penises, think women are there to serve them, treat women like appliances, are emotionally frail and labile and get angry and scary when they're unhappy, never do anything for others unless it serves them in some way, instantly argue and defend themselves than than listen, blame women for anything that goes wrong in their life, and many of them actually hate women.

It's not the fault of women that they pick loser men, it's that there are so many loser men it's hard to avoid them.

Especially because they're very good at putting on an act in the beginning to snag women - which shows that they DO know how they should behave. But no, once they think they've got the woman trapped through marriage, finances, and/or children, so many of them then openly and without an iota of shame ruthelessly exploit her love and labour.

Edited

Sounds exactly like some female equivalent of Andrew Tate would write.

Subwaystop · 21/11/2025 01:06

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 21/11/2025 00:56

Sounds exactly like some female equivalent of Andrew Tate would write.

Absolutely nothing - nothing! - like it.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 21/11/2025 01:16

Subwaystop · 21/11/2025 01:06

Absolutely nothing - nothing! - like it.

Really? If there were such a movement as WGTOW, the above would have been a perfect manifesto for it!

Tryingatleast · 21/11/2025 05:26

I think everyone now is so me me me and all about ‘you should be happy with life, put yourself first’ that men’s make up and personalities naturally gravitate towards making them worse/ awful.

Saying that I know loads of lovely men and boys and similarly know/ meet women who probably have men saying women aren’t great.

On another note Adolescence and the manosphere talk has made some women think all men are evil and I think people have forgotten that a good relationship where two people are each others best friends and love each other has ups and downs that can be weathered together

MsStrausse · 21/11/2025 05:43

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 21/11/2025 00:56

Sounds exactly like some female equivalent of Andrew Tate would write.

Yes, be quiet women or men will pretend you are the problem.

Terrytheweasel · 21/11/2025 05:51

MunchingMum · 20/11/2025 22:04

My friend had the ‘perfect’ marriage for ten years, until he unexpectedly walked out. We are all in shock.

And mine. Well, maybe you’re right. But people don’t walk around with an honest bio pinned to their jumper. It’s been a slow decline. I did not expect to be in this position. I’ve stepped up. He has not.

Agree. This is how they often operate. Making out that they’re great guys and then once you’re trapped with children or pregnant they decide to show their true colours. It happened to me!

176509user · 21/11/2025 06:04

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 20/11/2025 22:31

Yeah. The fact is the majority of men are unworthy of relationships with women, including the self-declared "nice" guys. They're selfish, infantile, have little self-awareness, are utterly obsessed with their penises, think women are there to serve them, treat women like appliances, are emotionally frail and labile and get angry and scary when they're unhappy, never do anything for others unless it serves them in some way, instantly argue and defend themselves than than listen, blame women for anything that goes wrong in their life, and many of them actually hate women.

It's not the fault of women that they pick loser men, it's that there are so many loser men it's hard to avoid them.

Especially because they're very good at putting on an act in the beginning to snag women - which shows that they DO know how they should behave. But no, once they think they've got the woman trapped through marriage, finances, and/or children, so many of them then openly and without an iota of shame ruthelessly exploit her love and labour.

Edited

This post nails it.

MustardGlass · 21/11/2025 06:05

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

FFS. tell me you know nothing without telling you know nothing.

It’s human nature for humans to change. My husband was amazing until my last maternity leave. It was longer and with 3 under 5 and him travelling to 🇺🇸 every few months I just started doing everything then I became a stay at home Mum for a few years then even when I went back to work I still did literally everything except finances because he can do that during work time. He will now do as little as he can get away with but genuinely thinks he does “oh at least a third of all the house stuff”. It’s the maternity leave that gets you both at work and home, your worth drops to the dirt. I don’t think men notice they are doing it, just that they work hard for the 40-45 hrs a week at their job so women have to pick up the small stuff at home.

TheThingOnTheIce · 21/11/2025 06:44

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

Do tell , where did you purchase your crystal ball?

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 21/11/2025 08:43

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

What dickish thing to say.

We don’t all have crystal balls. 🔮

Could you imagine that men behave one way and then another after they’re married? Could it be possible, for example, that I had no idea my ex husband was a serial adulterer and violent? They I chose to marry him because I knew these things in advance?

If you’re not going to help then don’t bother posting.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 21/11/2025 08:44

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 20/11/2025 22:31

Yeah. The fact is the majority of men are unworthy of relationships with women, including the self-declared "nice" guys. They're selfish, infantile, have little self-awareness, are utterly obsessed with their penises, think women are there to serve them, treat women like appliances, are emotionally frail and labile and get angry and scary when they're unhappy, never do anything for others unless it serves them in some way, instantly argue and defend themselves than than listen, blame women for anything that goes wrong in their life, and many of them actually hate women.

It's not the fault of women that they pick loser men, it's that there are so many loser men it's hard to avoid them.

Especially because they're very good at putting on an act in the beginning to snag women - which shows that they DO know how they should behave. But no, once they think they've got the woman trapped through marriage, finances, and/or children, so many of them then openly and without an iota of shame ruthelessly exploit her love and labour.

Edited

This. Over and over.

JHound · 21/11/2025 08:58

MustardGlass · 21/11/2025 06:05

FFS. tell me you know nothing without telling you know nothing.

It’s human nature for humans to change. My husband was amazing until my last maternity leave. It was longer and with 3 under 5 and him travelling to 🇺🇸 every few months I just started doing everything then I became a stay at home Mum for a few years then even when I went back to work I still did literally everything except finances because he can do that during work time. He will now do as little as he can get away with but genuinely thinks he does “oh at least a third of all the house stuff”. It’s the maternity leave that gets you both at work and home, your worth drops to the dirt. I don’t think men notice they are doing it, just that they work hard for the 40-45 hrs a week at their job so women have to pick up the small stuff at home.

Maternity leave was what tanked my friend’s marriage. She went back to work full time but he still thought she should take care of all the domestic and emotional labour as she did during maternity leave.

She realised she was basically a single mother so left him. Which he seemed genuinely shocked by!

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 21/11/2025 10:13

MsStrausse · 21/11/2025 05:43

Yes, be quiet women or men will pretend you are the problem.

I'm fully in favour of calling out/shaming/rejecting people who behave badly - which would indeed include a lot of men (and not a few women).

I'm just not a fan of lazy prejudicial stereotypes which seek to tar an entire large section of society with one brush based on the terrible behaviour of a proportion of them - whilst also seeking to claim that nobody from a different large section of society could be anything but blameless.

I like to consider people as individuals and judge them as such on their choices and actions and whether I wish to associate with them; but maybe that's just me. Nobody is forcing anybody to like/date/associate with/form relationships with anybody from any specific section of society if they don't want to.

ChamonixMountainBum · 21/11/2025 10:19

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 21/11/2025 10:13

I'm fully in favour of calling out/shaming/rejecting people who behave badly - which would indeed include a lot of men (and not a few women).

I'm just not a fan of lazy prejudicial stereotypes which seek to tar an entire large section of society with one brush based on the terrible behaviour of a proportion of them - whilst also seeking to claim that nobody from a different large section of society could be anything but blameless.

I like to consider people as individuals and judge them as such on their choices and actions and whether I wish to associate with them; but maybe that's just me. Nobody is forcing anybody to like/date/associate with/form relationships with anybody from any specific section of society if they don't want to.

You must be new here 😂

Dweetfidilove · 21/11/2025 10:27

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

Shit 😳! Don't hold back, eh 😢.
The OP may very well has made poor choices, but that not evident from what she's written so far.

Girlmom35 · 21/11/2025 10:56

PInkyStarfish · 20/11/2025 21:44

Poor choices get poor results, unfortunately.

Aim higher next time you set your sights on a man.

And there you have it people.
Walking proof that it's always the woman's fault.

If she messes up or doesn't perform the way she should, well then she's horrible.
If a man is a chronic underachiever, well we'll find a way to make that your fault too for not being picky enough.
But let's also indoctrinate all women from a young age that they need to take care of men, nurture men, support mens careers, have zero needs, desires and emotions, basically just exist to serve.
But shame on you for not picking well enough...

Shame on you.