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How to handle this? ... i feel like my son doesn't matter to in laws

32 replies

TheHazelCrow · 24/10/2025 21:53

This whole scenario has caused me so much worry and anxious feelings, and for me, it's felt like its gone on a long time. I feel silly for feeling like I do, but I feel so hurt. I dont even know how to explain this all simply as its all so complicated in my own head, so apologies in advance if it doesn't make sense. Family wise, this is all of my husbands side of the family, regarding my sil who I did at one point have a good relationship with, and she was even asked as one of my bridesmaids. My husband knows all of how i have felt and what i feel now. (He thinks that im overreacting and should just let it go.) ... my questions are has anyone experienced something like this, and what way do I go forward with this? Do i do something or just do and say nothing?

For context I gave birth to my 2nd baby (boy) almost a year ago. During the first few weeks of my pregnancy, my brother in law & his wife were also expecting their baby ahead of us, but unfortunately their pregnancy didn't last. After this happened we still had not yet shared our news with them or with the rest of the family, and we decided out of respect for them we would tell them after we were at least past 6 months pregnant, I felt so guilty to tell them after what they had to go through. I checked in with her to ask how she was on multiple occasions. I even made the offer to meet for a coffee etc. It was me reaching out to her each time. The rest of my pregnancy the contact between me & sil was nothing, as i felt like communication was all one way. I went through a difficult pregnancy and then haemorrhaging during labour, and a very prolonged recovery. A congratulations text was sent by her after I gave birth to my son.

My son is almost a year old now and she has still yet to meet him. I could understand that it may have been difficult for sil to be around babies. My brother in law has visited alone about 3 times in total (during easter or birthdays, to pass on gifts for our children).... my fil is also very low contact with both my children now, hes barely made any effort with my son since hes been born (pronably only seen him 5 times in the last year).

When my son was about 6months old, we were told that sil & bil were expecting another baby. Which we all were very happy to hear.

Again, even while she was pregnant, she still hadnt met my son, or been in touch with me.... Fast forward to now, their baby is now born, and I feel abit taken back by how she has been towards me. My Bil called over last week to give my eldest her birthday present, and my husband decided to give him their baby gift etc then. After he left I got a text from sil saying thank you, the gift was lovely etc, and just general small talk about my eldest's birthday.. no acknowledgement about how there's been zero contact between us for pretty much the past year. No acknowledgement of how she hasn't ever even asked how my son has been. Or how i have been. I cant help but feel so hurt and angry, because my in laws are doting over their baby, and its like the past year my baby boy didn't even exist. I feel like i just have to keep my mouth shut because im scared of how my husband will react but the whole thing has really upset me. A large part of me doesn't want to visit their baby. I feel terrible to admit this, but i feel so hurt about this. She's made no effort to see or check in with my son, even during her pregnancy. Reasons I can only assume that being around babies would have upset her, but she's able to go to work etc and no doubt see strangers babies when out doing her shopping. I honestly dont feel like shes even that bothered about how the past year has made me feel within the family. I cant bear to even read the messages in the family group chat, as my son after he was born was never treated the way their baby's being treated. Im dreading the future because I dont know how i can get past this with my sil.

OP posts:
TheHazelCrow · 24/10/2025 21:55

... the whole thing just feels like a fucking mess 😢😢😢

OP posts:
No5ChalksRoad · 24/10/2025 21:58

You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

What exactly do you want her to “acknowledge”?? People have their own lives to lead.

Have you considered seeing a counselor?

regista · 24/10/2025 22:02

This is so sad to read. You are likely right in assuming that it was very difficult for SIL to be around your baby or for ILs to welcome him into the family properly and it's created a really fucked up situation none of which is fair on you or your baby. It is hard, but maybe you can in time come to believe that there was no particular malice in this and when there is water under the bridge things may settle. I have not had fertility problems or lost a baby but I do know that it can really mess with someone's mental health and create carnage in a family dynamic. It may always remain something that you remember and may now be able to get past as it has created a rotten start for your little one.

Gall10 · 24/10/2025 22:03

Too long a post..can someone summarize it for me please?

CountFucula · 24/10/2025 22:08

I can see why you are hurt. I would be too. You’ve got two options. One, be cool towards SIL and her baby and see if she likes it. Or two, connect again with SIL for the sake of her baby and yours, they’ll be cousins. She’s behaved badly but it’s understandable, no? It was probably incredibly painful to be faced with a baby the same age as hers would have been had they lived. Not your fault and not your poor son’s fault. He shouldn’t be the hidden baby, the one you don’t mention. So mention him! And celebrate the new addition too.

WarriorsComeOutToPlayay · 24/10/2025 22:17

I’d say let this one lie and see how your relationship moves on. Having experienced a horrific pregnancy loss myself the absolute worst thing is being around babies and toddlers who are a similar age to what my daughter would have been. I think you should go easy on her for the period she was in mourning.

TheCosyViewer · 24/10/2025 22:25

Why are you scared of how your DH would react ? Are you afraid of him ?

You know you don't have to visit your SIL and the newborn if you don't want to. You can simply decide that your in-laws are your DH's family and he can visit and bring your children if he wants to, he can buy what ever gifts he wants to - you don't need to play a part in it, if you don't want you.

IamSmarticus · 25/10/2025 00:16

Have you posted about this before? It all seems very familiar.

Beenwhereyouareagain · 25/10/2025 09:02

Do you really have no idea how incredibly painful all of this must have been for your SIL? She lost her unborn baby! People react to things in various ways, but it must have been so hard for her when your child was born. She texted to thank you for the baby gift in a very normal way, and if you react/behave in the same manner, you can resume your relationship without hashing over the awful circumstances that led to her withdrawal.

Please say a silent prayer that nothing like this ever happens to you, and give this poor woman a break.

bozzabollix · 25/10/2025 09:11

Years ago I was pregnant at exactly the same time as a friend. I lost my baby horribly at six months pregnant. I explained to her I couldn’t bear to see her whilst she still had her bump because it would’ve reminded me where I should’ve been, I got a lot of abuse back and the friendship was finished. This situation reminds me of that.

It was always going to be difficult for a while for her. But now she’s busy with a new baby it should get a bit easier. I’m hoping you can both move on and have some kind of relationship, maybe get the kids together at Xmas?

Go easy on her. Losing a baby is incredibly tough.

How much do your family have to do with you? Maybe focus way more on your side of the family instead?

Fairyliz · 25/10/2025 09:19

So she lost a baby and you are making it all about you??
Can you at least try and understand how it would feel if you lost your child, do you think you would want to be around close friends who had a child a similar age?
Sorry I sound harsh but you have no idea. In this instance try and put it behind you instead of focusing on the fact that you did not get the attention you think you deserved.

Screamingabdabz · 25/10/2025 09:29

The posters here are being harsh - I understand op.

The key thing for me is that she kept the channels opened and your BIL still bought over gifts. All the normal niceties were observed even though they going through grief. This I imagine would have taken a monumental effort on her part given what she’d gone through so I think you take that as your olive branch. Try not to take it so personally on behalf of your child as there is time to heal that relationship.

Forgive her, be the bigger person, gush over their baby, delight in your own good fortune and family and try to move on. Hopefully at some point, when you see the cousins running around playing together it’ll be worth putting your hurt aside.

💐

TheHazelCrow · 25/10/2025 09:42

Beenwhereyouareagain · 25/10/2025 09:02

Do you really have no idea how incredibly painful all of this must have been for your SIL? She lost her unborn baby! People react to things in various ways, but it must have been so hard for her when your child was born. She texted to thank you for the baby gift in a very normal way, and if you react/behave in the same manner, you can resume your relationship without hashing over the awful circumstances that led to her withdrawal.

Please say a silent prayer that nothing like this ever happens to you, and give this poor woman a break.

Of course I do, it affected the whole family. I was heartbroken for her. And supported her in the best way I knew how to. Please don't make it sound like I dont have any empathy or feelings about what she went through. However It doesn't take away how I feel within my own situation now with my own child. Im allowed to feel sad that my child hasn't had any involvement from the in laws.

OP posts:
NotsosunnyShropshire · 25/10/2025 09:44

YABU @TheHazelCrow. You need to stop overanalysing everything.

TheHazelCrow · 25/10/2025 09:47

NotsosunnyShropshire · 25/10/2025 09:44

YABU @TheHazelCrow. You need to stop overanalysing everything.

Maybe I do. However, if it was that easy I would have done by now. Life's scenarios like this are not black and white.

OP posts:
Chinupchindownchinroundandround · 25/10/2025 09:53

Beenwhereyouareagain · 25/10/2025 09:02

Do you really have no idea how incredibly painful all of this must have been for your SIL? She lost her unborn baby! People react to things in various ways, but it must have been so hard for her when your child was born. She texted to thank you for the baby gift in a very normal way, and if you react/behave in the same manner, you can resume your relationship without hashing over the awful circumstances that led to her withdrawal.

Please say a silent prayer that nothing like this ever happens to you, and give this poor woman a break.

But then the SIL ignored OP and her nephew for a year? Losing her own baby doesn't make that okay. At all.

My first baby died 2 hours after he was born. Two of my pregnant sister in laws attended his funeral. So did my pregnant friend. And I visited all 3 of those new mothers & babies despite how much it hurt me.

The SIL is being unreasonable. Ignoring the OP for a year, making it so the OP had little support from the rest of the family now she's had a baby she wants to pretend she hasn't behaved horrendously for over a year?

OP isn't being unreasonable at all. I'm hurt for her reading her OP

Fair enough SIL was hurt.... but she was still really really unreasonable and unkind

Chinupchindownchinroundandround · 25/10/2025 09:58

Fairyliz · 25/10/2025 09:19

So she lost a baby and you are making it all about you??
Can you at least try and understand how it would feel if you lost your child, do you think you would want to be around close friends who had a child a similar age?
Sorry I sound harsh but you have no idea. In this instance try and put it behind you instead of focusing on the fact that you did not get the attention you think you deserved.

What attention did the OP think she deserved? Her in-laws excited to meet her baby? Is that such a terrible thing?

Two of my sister in laws and a close friend of mine gave birth after my baby died. And he wasn't a miscarriage, he died 2 hours after he was born. It was horrendous. Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

But yano what I didn't do? I didn't take any support away from my sister in laws or friend, I didn't get the rest of the family to not support sister in laws and their newborns ect

I know exactly what it's like to lose a baby, go to your babies funeral.... whilst pregnant women attended

The sister in law is being unreasonable, she's been hurtful and unkind. OP is allowed to be hurt and upset about how her and her baby have been treated. Sister in law experiencing a loss DOES NOT excuse shitty behaviour for over a year and then a sudden change now she's had her own baby

Chinupchindownchinroundandround · 25/10/2025 10:03

Sorry OP, this is my 3rd message on this thread now, but I really feel for you. I'd be incredibly hurt if I was in this situation.

YANBU at all. She's been really unkind and hurtful. Ita up to you whether you can move past it or not. I would try to move forward for the sake of your child, he will have a cousin to play with in a few years. I'd never forget what SIL had done and I could never be as close to her ever again after the way she's behaved, but you can be civil.

I'm ngl what I'd really want to do is go NC with her and see how she liked it, but I doubt my conscious would allow it

Pancakeflipper · 25/10/2025 10:17

What do you think would happen if you invited them all over for tea and cake to celebrate baby ?

Would they accept, ignore say no chance ?

NimbleDreamer · 25/10/2025 10:36

TBH I can understand where the SIL is coming from. It must have been incredibly painful for her after her loss and I can understand why she may have been distant. Your PILs however I feel have no excuse. I would be more annoyed at them than your SIL, especially as they are now doting on your SIL's new baby and are still ignoring your child.

Ratsinthefloorboards · 25/10/2025 11:05

Op are your own parents involved in your dcs’ lives? If so, I would focus on that relationship for now.

The reality might be that your in-laws are always going to gush more over their DD’s dc then yours! It’s not right but there we are! It is fairly often the case simply because women tend to be the ones who reinforce family ties the most.

My brother in law has visited alone about 3 times in total (during easter or birthdays, to pass on gifts for our children).... my fil is also very low contact with both my children now, hes barely made any effort with my son since hes been born (pronably only seen him 5 times in the last year)

^^This is interesting bc your bil has visited three times with presents for your dc. So even though your sil hasn’t met your dc, it’s not as though they are ignoring your son. I bet your sil was involved in choosing and wrapping those presents op and maybe that was probably the only way she felt she would reach out at that moment?

I think your feelings are justified because you and your sil were close before the very sad loss of her baby, you reached out during the time of her loss, and she offered no support in return after you had had a difficult birth and hasn’t reached out for a year since.

But if you are continually reaching out and getting little response back, there isn’t much you can do to change that situation. As far as you know, she may not have been contacting anyone! And she may have spent her subsequent pregnancy terrified that the outcome might be the same?

The other thing that occurred to me from your post is that have you considered that your dh’s family is just different to yours in their expectations of how often they interact with each other? And how close they are? So this is not personal. Families differ in this. Your fil may just be reflecting what they as a family consider to be normal? So this situation may be as much to do with that as your sil’s sad loss?

Either way, you can’t control other people op. Only your response to them. You have been kind and reached out. So you have done the right thing. No need to continue to get rejected though so I would stop interacting with your sil for the moment beyond civilities.

I think your dh should really take the lead with his own family and if he is not upset then you may need to try and talk to him a bit more in depth about this (when you can discuss it with him calmly and openly) and try and both understand one another better and you can be comforted by him more. Are you close as a couple?

Presumably there will be a moment in the future when the whole family get together and the cousins will meet. And your sil will meet your son for the first time. And it will be evident that a lot of time has psssed, It’s up to you whether you handle that situation with grace or not.

In the meantime though, try not to lose energy focusing on this situation so much as you can’t control other people, only your response to them.

Can you think about why this loss of extended family interaction is hitting you so hard? Do you have enough support from your own family and friends? Are you happy in your own life? Do you have enough time for yourself to pursue activities that fulfil you?

Have a think op, maybe write a letter setting it all out and put it away somewhere, and maybe be less present on the family Whatsapp group? People can be very wrapped up in their own challenges and busy and you may be taking this too personally op, although I know you are hurting on behalf of your dc too 💐

NerrSnerr · 25/10/2025 11:09

Your baby reminds your sister in law of the baby she lost. Your baby is only a year and they’ve had the bereavement and a new baby to cope with, with the associated struggles of having another baby after loss.

Personally I’d ask your husband to speak to his brother to say that you fully understand how hard the whole situation is for them and you’ll be here when SIL is ready, that there is no pressure and if they want to meet with the babies they can call the shots on when/ where and for how long.

Clearly SIL is struggling and needs to know you support her in this

Rosiedayss · 25/10/2025 11:16

I can understand your hurt, particularly from your in laws.
Your SIL has been suffering so I would try and cut her some slack.
Its ok to not want to rush back in there.
It is not ok that you feel your son has been ignored.

More concerning is your fear of your husband and sharing this with him.
That sounds really toxic.

ComedyGuns · 25/10/2025 11:37

I’m so sorry you’re feeling like this but you’re making it much worse by over-thinking it. I had two failed pregnancies (so before 12 weeks) after my first child, and right up until my second child was around six months old I was still scared that something bad would happen.

A friend once said that mothers who have easy conceptions and pregnancies (I assume they’re the majority) just don’t have that fear that takes such a long time to dissipate.

Also, they’re your in-laws - can you focus on your own family? While I’ve got a good relationship with my in-laws, they only really did the traditional early visits when mine were born, and then it was just birthdays and Christmas - I didn’t ever question it.

Give your SIL a bit of time and just be pleasant, and I’m sure things will settle down soon.

Beenwhereyouareagain · 25/10/2025 13:22

Chinupchindownchinroundandround · 25/10/2025 09:53

But then the SIL ignored OP and her nephew for a year? Losing her own baby doesn't make that okay. At all.

My first baby died 2 hours after he was born. Two of my pregnant sister in laws attended his funeral. So did my pregnant friend. And I visited all 3 of those new mothers & babies despite how much it hurt me.

The SIL is being unreasonable. Ignoring the OP for a year, making it so the OP had little support from the rest of the family now she's had a baby she wants to pretend she hasn't behaved horrendously for over a year?

OP isn't being unreasonable at all. I'm hurt for her reading her OP

Fair enough SIL was hurt.... but she was still really really unreasonable and unkind

I'm so sorry your baby died. That grief is more than anyone should ever have to bear.