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How do I help change his mindset about me?

52 replies

Veryhungrycatapillar · 21/10/2025 12:14

My partner seems to always focus on the negatives in what I do, and completely overlooks the positives. It feels like no matter how hard I try to be supportive, he has this fixed belief that I’m not. It's like he's keeping a mental record of all the times I've had a go at him and been off, but completely disregards when I do show care, empathy, and support.

We have both come down with a nasty cold, I admit he’s definitely feeling worse than I am. This morning, he told me he’d phoned in sick to work. I tried to be sympathetic and asked if I could get him anything and his response was a bullet to the head would be good right now. I know he was feeling rough and probably venting, so i joked back that he was a bad patient. Later, he misheard something I said and along with the patient comment immediately assumed I was slagging him off. I reassured him I wasn’t, but he snapped back with, “You always have a problem with me being ill.”

This is a pattern. He gets ill quite often with colds, hayfever, headaches and allergies and every time, he says some version of You hate me being ill/ You hate when im ill/ here we go again you cant handle when im unwell etc. I’ll admit, in the past I have gotten frustrated sometimes, but not because he was ill, because it was something that could have been prevented e.g. not taking antihistamines before a planned day when we would be outside all day when he knows he needs them, not addressing allergens at home. I’ve tried to explain this and I’ve made real efforts to change. I check in more, offer help, take over chores, make sure he’s comfortable. But despite that, it feels like it never counts. One tiny moment of tension and I’m suddenly the “unsupportive partner” again.

Another example is when he goes out with friends. He doesn’t have many friends and goes out maybe 2/3 times a year. I’m usually supportive of this but I’ll admit there have been a few times where I wasn’t as enthusiastic or could’ve handled it better, and I’ve apologised for those. But now, any time he mentions a social event, it turns into i knew you wouldn't want me to go/you always have an issue with me seeing my friends/You dont want me to have fun. Even when I’m supportive its twisted and a comment i say will get taken out if context. It's like he’s bracing for a fight that isn't there, or assumes I’m secretly upset. Which then i try to defend myself and an argument does happen.

It’s exhausting trying to prove I’m not the bad guy. I feel like I’m walking on eggshells. I do take responsibility for the times I’ve reacted poorly in the past, but I’m also trying to change and grow. I just don’t know what else I can do when it feels like he’s already made up his mind about who I am in these situations.
Has anyone dealt with something similar? How do you help someone “reset” their mindset about you once they’ve developed this negative perception? How do you get your partner to actually see the changes you’re trying to make?

OP posts:
childofthe607080s · 21/10/2025 12:26

You can’t reset someone’s mind , you may find he is actually the sort of person who likes to be negative and now you see that you don’t like him as much as you thought

Motnight · 21/10/2025 12:28

How could you have handled your partner going out 2 or 3 times a year better?

PickAChew · 21/10/2025 12:34

You can't. You can walk on eggshells all you like but, he will still be the same person with the same mindset unless HE chooses to behave differently.

sweetpickle2 · 21/10/2025 12:37

"Another example is when he goes out with friends. He doesn’t have many friends and goes out maybe 2/3 times a year. I’m usually supportive of this but I’ll admit there have been a few times where I wasn’t as enthusiastic or could’ve handled it better, and I’ve apologised for those"- what does this mean? How could you have handled it 'better'? If it's only 2/3 times a year how many times is 'a few times'? Feels like there's more to this.

But overall, just reading your OP made me exhausted. At worst he's toxic and negative, but at best I simply couldn't be arsed with all this. I'd walk away.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 21/10/2025 12:39

This is who he really is and you’re not going to chsnge him or make him see the error of his ways. He does this too because he can and you let him. Being a rescuer and or saviour in a relationship never works.

Am not at all surprised he does not have many friends, the man is a manchild and you seem to acting as a sort of mother figure to him and has you running around after him.

Read Women who love too
much by Dr Robin Norwood and if a friend was telling you this what would your advice be?. You can do better for yourself than he.

Footloosefiona · 21/10/2025 12:41

@sweetpickle2 "But overall, just reading your OP made me exhausted. At worst he's toxic and negative, but at best I simply couldn't be arsed with all this. I'd walk away."

Agreed.

OP, he's a walking bag of negativity that you don't need in your life dragging you down. Get rid - you'll feel 10x lighter.

ClickClickety · 21/10/2025 12:46

What a miserable way to live. Get out and find joy, OP.

ohyesido · 21/10/2025 12:48

You need to reset your own mind and stop trying to win approval from this unpleasant man.

what gives him the right to tell you what you will or won’t say or what you think?

sounds like he doesn’t want to go out and is trying to convince himself that it’s because of you.

you’re not responsible for his inference.

why are you so quick to accept that the fault lies with you?

CaffeinatedSeagull · 21/10/2025 13:32

I can relate heavily with your partner OP, and my partner has said to me that I overlook the positives she brings lots of times.

Have you spoken to him and asked him why he feels that way? And what can be done to change it?

For me, there was (and still is) a very big imbalance in our relationship and that was continuously gnawing away at me. It wasn’t something that I wanted to confront, but when I did get that out, it felt like a weight was lifted. We’re working through things now slowly and addressing it, but I hope with time things will improve.

Veryhungrycatapillar · 21/10/2025 14:47

I didn't want to go into too many details incase it is a bit outing but basically the incidents I can remember are:
• Went out for a meal with his friends, I was supportive of this and was happy for him.
• Went on a 4 day trip to see his friend, no issue with that from my side.
• Went on a Christmas do, fully supportive of this.
• Went out for a night out with his friends. I didn't have an issue with this initially but after asking him what date this was planned for and him not getting round to telling me it turns out he double booked the night out on the same night we had something booked together. I was then annoyed that he wasn't organised and he wanted to brush me off for his mates.
• I actively encouraged him to go to the Christmas party the year after. All his friends weren't free on the same day so it never materialised. But I encouraged him to go initially.
• big formal party, only he was invited. Whilst I was disappointed we weren't both going I wanted him to have a good time and was supportive of this.
• night out - Due to clashing shifts we hadn't seen each other all week and so I expressed that I would rather he spent time with me. This is the one big time I was in the wrong and I have apologised. I didn't stop him from going but voiced my opinion on it.
• Bbq with friends, was happy for him to go. No issues.
• Night out with friends, I encouraged him to go if he could get the time off work. But said my tone of voice was off and I was rude so it ruined the fun of going and then didn't go.

OP posts:
Veryhungrycatapillar · 21/10/2025 14:48

I understand its exhausting reading it, try living it. I am trying my best to turn up and be a supportive wife.

OP posts:
Schmitt2009 · 21/10/2025 15:18

This sounds completely exhausting. Your partner wants to live his life in a negative mindset. He clearly tries to find fault in everything you do. Your tone of voice was off? And that ruined his night out?
Honestley, I would walk away. He will not change. He gets some sort of satisfaction out of making you the problem, being negative and always hard done by. He probably also gets satisfaction out of you "tying yourself in knots" to be supportive and nice to him. Dont'. It will never be enough.
People like him are a bottomless pit and no matter how much kindness you throw in - you can't fill their need for negativity.

sweetpickle2 · 21/10/2025 15:46

You're married to this arsehole? I'm sorry OP. He's manipulating you through emotional abuse and now you're clearly terrified to do or say the wrong thing.

Good relationships aren't about keeping score or chalking up who did something "wrong" and having to make up for it. Everything on that list you just posted would be a complete non-event in my relationship, and neither one would remember or hold it against the other.

DeQuin · 21/10/2025 15:50

You can’t change someone else. The only thing you can change is how you respond to it.

UpDownAllAround1 · 21/10/2025 15:55

He sounds great! You can’t change his mindset until
he wants to change or is forces
to. I’d suggest telling him
once firmly that you won’t put up with his poor me mentality anymore

YodasHairyButt · 21/10/2025 15:57

Nothing you do will ever be good enough. He reacts this way and turns it all back on you so that next time you keep your mouth shut to avoid the drama. Do you want to live like that?

cramptramp · 21/10/2025 16:12

I can understand why he doesn’t have many friends. You can’t change his mind about you and nor should you have to. He sounds horrible. Leave him. Your life will never be any better with him.

NotLactoseFree · 21/10/2025 16:18

This is a pattern. He gets ill quite often with colds, hayfever, headaches and allergies and every time, he says some version of You hate me being ill/ You hate when im ill/ here we go again you cant handle when im unwell etc. I’ll admit, in the past I have gotten frustrated sometimes, but not because he was ill, because it was something that could have been prevented e.g. not taking antihistamines before a planned day when we would be outside all day when he knows he needs them, not addressing allergens at home. I’ve tried to explain this and I’ve made real efforts to change.

Well, if DH is unwell because he's not taking his allergy medication, I'm not sympathetic at all. And actually, it was what finally made him go see a doctor and actually take a proactive approach because I pointed out that he was unbearable to live with for 2 months a year and quite frankly, I was tired of the complaining and moaning so he could either do something about it, or shut up.

As for the rest, if you are confident you have tried to modify your behaviour as much as you can, then the answer should be, Clearly I'm a terrible person so there's no point being together so perhaps we should just call it now.

Of course, hta'ts not what he want. What he wants is to be sick and whiney and have you running around. x1000 if youre already sick because he absolutely does NOT want to do any running around after you. He wants to go to his social events and not have to think about you or accomodate you. No one rational ha an issue with someone going out with mates. But it's totally normal to be pissed off if a partner double books when you've got plans or to feel left out if there's a party and you're not invited. But now you feel like you're never allowed an opinion.

He sounds exhausting and I bet this is just the TIP of the iceberg. I'll be completely shocked if you haven't already changed a million things about yourself, your life, your hobbies, your friends, your preferences to accomodate him.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 21/10/2025 16:24

Veryhungrycatapillar · 21/10/2025 14:48

I understand its exhausting reading it, try living it. I am trying my best to turn up and be a supportive wife.

You don’t have to live it. It’s a choice. You have agency.

Relationships are meant to be enjoyable. They’re meant to be a lovely thing that improves your life. If your relationship isn’t a lovely thing that improves your life, what’s it for? Stop being in it.

GardenGaff · 21/10/2025 16:25

I’ve read your OP and my main thought is I’ll bet you’re now a shadow of your former self after putting up with this for years.

TwistedWonder · 21/10/2025 16:26

You’re not a rehabilitation centre for a problematic man. You can’t ‘cure’ him you have to decide if this is the life you want

Yellowe · 21/10/2025 16:26

sweetpickle2 · 21/10/2025 12:37

"Another example is when he goes out with friends. He doesn’t have many friends and goes out maybe 2/3 times a year. I’m usually supportive of this but I’ll admit there have been a few times where I wasn’t as enthusiastic or could’ve handled it better, and I’ve apologised for those"- what does this mean? How could you have handled it 'better'? If it's only 2/3 times a year how many times is 'a few times'? Feels like there's more to this.

But overall, just reading your OP made me exhausted. At worst he's toxic and negative, but at best I simply couldn't be arsed with all this. I'd walk away.

This. No one is happy in this relationship. Even reading about it is tiring and depressing. Why not walk away and I shine what life would be like without someone this aggressively negative around all the time?

strawgoh · 21/10/2025 16:30

He's a git isn't he? And his mindset is well and truly set.

Don't go down that road of trying to change yourself.

EveningSpread · 21/10/2025 16:32

You can’t change someone’s mind. It sounds like you two don’t get on a significant amount of the time.

Why that is - whether it’s you or him - is irrelevant if the result is making either of you unhappy or uncomfortable. You’re not compatible.

Life’s too short to be with someone you’re frequently at odds with.

NebulousSadTimes · 21/10/2025 16:45

Oh @Veryhungrycatapillar , do not try and change anything about yourself or tie yourself in knots to try and make this man change his mindset about you. He won't. He is choosing to see you the way he does, to be emotionally abusive. Telling you you hate it when he's ill? His accusations are admissions. Misheard something you said? Are you sure? He may well have heard very clearly but he wanted to have a go at you. There are probably quite a few examples of this if you look back at occurrences with more seeing eyes.

You've reacted badly in the past because he has set you up to react. It's what they do.

You say yourself it's a pattern. It will continue to be so as long as you are with him. You can't change him and FFS please don't change yourself any more than you have already, it's only going to get worse and you will become more desperate.

I have lived it, many of us have, we can see through the illnesses and nights out and any other bones of contention to see the picture for what it is without the emotion that is blinkering you just now. I'm sorry you're going through this Flowers

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