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How to deal with work colleague?

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Shs726 · 12/10/2025 22:31

I am in my early 30s and married. He is in his 50s and is married (on paper but live together).

I’ve worked with him for five years, and there’s never been an issue.

A few months ago, while working on a project, we started talking about our upbringings. He asked about my dad, and I mentioned that he wasn’t around and that we don’t have a good relationship.
Later, he messaged me saying he felt really sad for me and was surprised by what I shared, but he was glad I opened up. I was a bit taken aback, as I didn’t think I’d shared anything too personal, but I didn’t think much more of it.

He then sent a message asking if I’d like to meet for lunch on our day off. I politely declined, explaining that I don’t hang out with the opposite gender one to one as it’s a boundary my husband and I have. He respected that.

A few weeks later, he messaged me again, saying he’d visited a chocolate factory and bought chocolates for me, which he’d left at the locker. I thanked him but said he didn’t need to do that. I didn’t collect them, but he later messaged again, reminding me to pick them up.

At the time, I didn’t think much of it other than wondering why he’d done that. My colleagues occasionally get each other small treats, usually as a thank-you for helping with something. I thought it was a one-off, and since I’ve received chocolates from other colleagues before, I didn’t think it was anything more than a kind gesture.

However, later on, he got me a cookie and cake. Again, I just thought he was being kind and accepted it but said no more treats after this. Then a week later, he messaged saying he’d bought me drinks and more chocolate. I replied that I couldn’t accept them, but he insisted I do so, saying he was just trying to be nice. I left it for a few days, but then he messaged again, saying he had no use for them and asking me to please take them. I agreed but asked him please not to buy me anything else.

A few days later, after a busy day at work where I had to work through lunch and stay late, he came to my desk the next morning (which I was sharing with another colleague). He placed coffee, cookies, and lunch on my desk, saying, “Here’s the stuff you asked for.”
My colleague gave me a strange look, and I assumed it was because, one, I never ask my colleagues to buy me anything, and two, everyone knows I’m particular about my coffee and don’t drink that brand.

I was taken aback by why he did that and by his false claim that I had “asked” for it. I didn’t want to embarrass him, so I simply replied, “I’ll sort you out with the money later.”

When I later saw him, I took out some money to give to him for the items. He refused, insisting that it was a gift and that he’d noticed I might not have eaten earlier because I was so busy. He just wanted to show he cared. I thanked him for the gesture but told him not to worry about me and to stop buying me things. He gave me a spiel about knowing I’m independent but that he was just trying to help.

A week later, he said he’d left more treats for me. I replied saying I wouldn’t accept them. He insisted I take them, saying it would be the last time. I told him that if he bought me anything more, it would lead to an argument. He agreed, but added that he couldn’t wait for our first argument. I didn’t say anything else.

Now, things at work are changing. He continues to make me instant drinks and places them on my desk. The problem is, I don’t drink instant coffee, and everyone at work knows this. Also, I never ask anyone to make me a drink. Additionally, whenever I’m on calls, he comes over and starts doing my paperwork. I find this annoying because I’ve been managing on my own for five years. When I get off the phone, I thank him but tell him I’ll handle it myself.

Then, one day, he gave me an envelope. I thought it was work-related, but when I opened it at home, I found a mixtape he’d made for me; despite knowing that I don’t listen to music, whereas he’s a big music fan.

One day, I had a headache, and I was feeling a bit down. He asked what was wrong, and when I told him, he suggested I take some medicine. I declined, saying I’d manage. A few hours later, he went out and bought me three types of medicine.

I told him I wasn’t going to accept it, as it made me and my husband uncomfortable with the amount of stuff he was buying me. I explained, as politely as possible, that I appreciated his thoughtfulness but that he needed to respect my boundaries. I told him this privately.

At first, he said he understood and that it was no problem. I thanked him for his understanding.
When I got home, I received a long message from him. He said that I had embarrassed him and made him feel awkward. He claimed that he and others always compliment me at work, but I brush it off as if it means nothing, which had damaged his confidence. He also said that I make him feel insecure, and that I’m too stubborn to accept anything. He emphasised that he was just trying to help and that he always feels like he has to walk on eggshells around me, but he was finally going to be honest.

The message went on and on. I simply replied, apologising if I’d made him feel that way, but reminded him that he continued to buy me things even after I asked him to stop. He then apologised again, repeatedly. I accepted and told him not to keep apologising, that it was fine and over. Later, he sent me another message about how he spent his day off. I didn’t reply. Then he sent messages about someone we both know. I replied, keeping it short and sweet.Then he apologised again, and told me about his son’s birthday. I wished his son a happy birthday. He sent some more random texts which I didn’t respond to.

Finally, he sent me a message that was around 4000 words long. It detailed random bits about his childhood, his work, his folks, and how sorry he was. He said he knew I love my husband and respect that we have different beliefs, but he cares so much about me. He wrote that I inspire him and that I’ve lit something inside him that was dormant. He said I make him feel human, and that when I respond to things he tells me about himself, I’m never judgmental and am always empathetic. (Bear in mind, I’ve never asked for him to tell me his business). He acknowledged that he shouldn’t message me so much, but that he couldn’t help it.

I didn’t respond, but I’m in shock. What is this behavior?

OP posts:
RavenFinch · 20/10/2025 02:07

Planesmistakenforstars · 20/10/2025 01:57

Almost every single post on here is telling you to report him, at the very least to HR. Why in hell have you not done that?

Because she likes the drama so much she bought the company / started a second thread.

See my post (fourth one down at 01:47 hrs) on the second post the OP started:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5430201-how-to-deal-with-work-colleague-part-2-updated

Because obviously she didn't like the previous advice we gave (even after the update) - and we were responding to the update 🙄 so she started another thread.

I'm sure if someone doesn't say soon "well just marry him then" soon she will be back in another week with another update about the strange behaviour of this colleague ...... who will still have a job 🙄 ...... which he should have lost and been sacked from several weeks ago but hey ho. 🤷🤷‍♀️🤷

How to deal with work colleague? Part 2 (updated) | Mumsnet

Sorry wasn’t sure if could still edit OP on original thread. Also I did add update post but responses seemed to be for OP and not the new update. he...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5430201-how-to-deal-with-work-colleague-part-2-updated

Crimble123 · 20/10/2025 02:46

Op do not block his number straight away. What i would do is tell him in no uncertain circumstances that he is no longer to contact you as he is making you uncomfortable. Say if he continues to go against your wishes than you will take matters further.
Ive contacted the police due to a guy not leaving me alone when I told him to. The police said this excat thing. I had to prove that after I told him to stop that he persisted more than two times after this. You cant reply though, nothing at all. Just logging anytime he contacts you via phone or in person. You then have a much stronger case against him for the police.
Regarding work I would also let managers/HR know too.
This happened to me via a diff guy at work. In the end he was told to stop contacting me and wasn't allowed in the room that I worked in.
That was over 10 years ago now and im so angry that he did that to me. Anyway, save all evidence you have. Don't delete it.

Fabulously · 20/10/2025 02:56

Christ almighty how have you got to the age you are, and not dealt with this formally yet? I’m younger than you and can clearly see this should have been raised formally a long time ago, I’m not sure why you’re continuing to engage with him directly.

BunnyRuddington · 20/10/2025 06:54

Fabulously · 20/10/2025 02:56

Christ almighty how have you got to the age you are, and not dealt with this formally yet? I’m younger than you and can clearly see this should have been raised formally a long time ago, I’m not sure why you’re continuing to engage with him directly.

I agree. Not sure why the OP hasn’t dealt with this ages ago. She really must like the drama.

landlordhell · 20/10/2025 07:01

Definitely overstepping the boundaries . You have been repeatedly clear and yet he continues. It’s time for HR

Kidsgotothatschool · 20/10/2025 07:02

Why are you not reporting him for harassment?

landlordhell · 20/10/2025 07:03

Keep his messages. Evidence

Megghy · 20/10/2025 09:35

I'm afraid at this point you've already allowed him to form a bond in his mind, and I'm concerned for your safety. These types are scary delusional. He's an extreme TV-drama level stalker. Notify HR at once. Tell your husband everything. Take a vacation. The cooling off of seperation is actually a safety measure for yourself. If it continues I personally would move jobs and consider it a harsh lesson learnt.

Shs726 · 20/10/2025 10:23

Right I don’t have HR as I work in a small company.

my manager is on leave and when she’s back (few days) I am reporting it.
I have so far managed to put everything together and to hand it in writing to her as well speak to her.

thanks people.

OP posts:
Shs726 · 20/10/2025 10:37

BunnyRuddington · 20/10/2025 06:54

I agree. Not sure why the OP hasn’t dealt with this ages ago. She really must like the drama.

What are you on about? Easy to peach behind a computer… try doing it in reality.
Are you in my mind to know I like drama?

It is not easy for everyone. And context matters. Firstly I’m quite introverted. I have been bullied in my past job before. I naturally don’t like direct conflict. SORRY FOR THAT!

that’s why I turned online for help instead of telling someone in real. That it wasn’t in my head he was being too much. And thank you for everyone for confirming my suspicions.

I work in a small company. I don’t have HR. He’s been there far longer than I have and is good friends with some of the people I work with. He also knows the owners. Plus, gossip travels fast. A little part of me was scared once it gets out, I’ll be subject to everyone’s gossip as I don’t doubt he’ll give his made up version. So I wanted to AVOID THAT DRAMA and hoped it could be resolved quietly.

I stupidly hoped he would back off and get the cues. He also said on his text if I didn’t reply, he wouldn’t message me more and leave me alone. I DID NOT REPLY. he did leave me alone (or so it appeared). I thought in my head .. that was it!!

until now when he sent me another long Message. (Which btw I am in process of reporting and bracing myself for investigation)

I’ve already gathered everything and wrote an official letter that I will submit to my manager when I see her in the next few days.

OP posts:
Shs726 · 20/10/2025 10:41

Fabulously · 20/10/2025 02:56

Christ almighty how have you got to the age you are, and not dealt with this formally yet? I’m younger than you and can clearly see this should have been raised formally a long time ago, I’m not sure why you’re continuing to engage with him directly.

coz I don’t lead the same life as you? And I’m sorry I wasn’t brave enough to address it formally a long time ago. I was internally scared a little.

Please be mindful there is a reason why so many cases go unreported.

but thank you

OP posts:
RavenFinch · 21/10/2025 00:42

Shs726 · 20/10/2025 10:23

Right I don’t have HR as I work in a small company.

my manager is on leave and when she’s back (few days) I am reporting it.
I have so far managed to put everything together and to hand it in writing to her as well speak to her.

thanks people.

Okay for your own benefit (and information) @Shs726 this is what would happen in a blue chip company 100+ employees with a strong HR department and a professional business reputation to maintain - either:

  1. The harassing colleague would be terminated without notice - but this option is more likely if the employee is young and has less than 24 months employment with the company.

Option 2 is what an HR department would do with a more senior colleague with longer service with the firm:

  1. HR would invite Miscreant Colleague in for a chat about his / her behaviour. HR would say the phrase: "This is unacceptable and cannot continue". HR would then offer the Miscreant Colleague a slightly less painful option to being terminated - to save face (for him and for the company):

2.(a) HR would ask Miscreant Colleague to voluntarily resign under a "Compromise Agreement" (aka "Settlement Agreement"). Under this arrangement, the "MC" (Miscreant Colleague) resigns but gets paid an additional lump sum - the Compromise Settlement Agreement Sum - of at least 3 or 4 months salary. The more senior the colleague and the longer service s/he has the larger the Settlement Sum - sometimes 6 months salary or in rare cases 12 months salary.

2.(b) Miscreant Colleague then gets put on (paid) garden leave whilst the legalities of the Compromise Agreement are thrashed out between solicitors. During the garden leave the MC must not contact any colleagues st the firm - other than the HR department to check on any details.

2.(c) After MC leaves with his / her golden handshake "pay off" / get out the door and get lost payment, they get to save face outwardly to the outside world when job hunting (they resigned voluntarily blah blah, the job wasn't quite right for them) -- but there are additional safe guards (for you) if this type of Compromise Agreement termination is used:

2.(d) Under very clear legally binding terms of the Compromise Agreement, the Miscreant Colleague must never contact any former colleagues ever again. His only contact with the former employer can be with the HR department when he needs future job references etc.

Although a "Compromise Agreement" looks at first a bit unfair - like the Wrong Doing Miscreant gets PAID OFF and might walk out the door with up to 6 months salary - bear in mind, the MC loses ongoing employment, pension rights, continuous employment, respect of former colleagues, and may spend many many months job hunting.

There are advantages and disadvantages to Options 1 and 2. A highly skilled and experienced HR manager knows which option to use when.

Option 1 - is cheaper to sack the Miscreant. However this requires (a) very strong evidence of wrong doing which would meet the threshold for "gross misconduct"; and (b) no threat of a legal challenge - hence the evidence has to meet the criteria of (a).

Option 1 - major disadvantage is that the company leaves themselves wide open to numerous legal threats - unfair dismissal claim from the Miscreant, and sexual harassment from the Victim.

Option 1 also has another disadvantage:

● there is no legally binding Agreement preventing the Miscreant from making contact with former colleagues - both the Victim, and any other colleagues the Miscreant wants to remain chums with / continue to spout his version of events to.

I hope you can see from all of the above that "paying him off" under a Compromise Agreement - to go quietly and not make any further contact with anybody - is the legally strongest option - and the one likely to offer you / the Victim the strongest protection.

RavenFinch · 21/10/2025 01:00

RavenFinch · 21/10/2025 00:42

Okay for your own benefit (and information) @Shs726 this is what would happen in a blue chip company 100+ employees with a strong HR department and a professional business reputation to maintain - either:

  1. The harassing colleague would be terminated without notice - but this option is more likely if the employee is young and has less than 24 months employment with the company.

Option 2 is what an HR department would do with a more senior colleague with longer service with the firm:

  1. HR would invite Miscreant Colleague in for a chat about his / her behaviour. HR would say the phrase: "This is unacceptable and cannot continue". HR would then offer the Miscreant Colleague a slightly less painful option to being terminated - to save face (for him and for the company):

2.(a) HR would ask Miscreant Colleague to voluntarily resign under a "Compromise Agreement" (aka "Settlement Agreement"). Under this arrangement, the "MC" (Miscreant Colleague) resigns but gets paid an additional lump sum - the Compromise Settlement Agreement Sum - of at least 3 or 4 months salary. The more senior the colleague and the longer service s/he has the larger the Settlement Sum - sometimes 6 months salary or in rare cases 12 months salary.

2.(b) Miscreant Colleague then gets put on (paid) garden leave whilst the legalities of the Compromise Agreement are thrashed out between solicitors. During the garden leave the MC must not contact any colleagues st the firm - other than the HR department to check on any details.

2.(c) After MC leaves with his / her golden handshake "pay off" / get out the door and get lost payment, they get to save face outwardly to the outside world when job hunting (they resigned voluntarily blah blah, the job wasn't quite right for them) -- but there are additional safe guards (for you) if this type of Compromise Agreement termination is used:

2.(d) Under very clear legally binding terms of the Compromise Agreement, the Miscreant Colleague must never contact any former colleagues ever again. His only contact with the former employer can be with the HR department when he needs future job references etc.

Although a "Compromise Agreement" looks at first a bit unfair - like the Wrong Doing Miscreant gets PAID OFF and might walk out the door with up to 6 months salary - bear in mind, the MC loses ongoing employment, pension rights, continuous employment, respect of former colleagues, and may spend many many months job hunting.

There are advantages and disadvantages to Options 1 and 2. A highly skilled and experienced HR manager knows which option to use when.

Option 1 - is cheaper to sack the Miscreant. However this requires (a) very strong evidence of wrong doing which would meet the threshold for "gross misconduct"; and (b) no threat of a legal challenge - hence the evidence has to meet the criteria of (a).

Option 1 - major disadvantage is that the company leaves themselves wide open to numerous legal threats - unfair dismissal claim from the Miscreant, and sexual harassment from the Victim.

Option 1 also has another disadvantage:

● there is no legally binding Agreement preventing the Miscreant from making contact with former colleagues - both the Victim, and any other colleagues the Miscreant wants to remain chums with / continue to spout his version of events to.

I hope you can see from all of the above that "paying him off" under a Compromise Agreement - to go quietly and not make any further contact with anybody - is the legally strongest option - and the one likely to offer you / the Victim the strongest protection.

I wanted to outline the legal options to terminating this colleague so that you know now, in advance, what steps your firm should be taking.

Unfortunately from a few comments you have made about "it's a small firm with no HR department" and "I'm going to tell my manager, she is....." I worry whether your direct line manager will have enough knowledge of HR procedures, protocols and employment law.

If your firm / your manager does not handle this situation correctly (terminate the nan via a Compromise Agreement) you will have to consider taking the matter to the police.

You will have to take the matter to the police if either of the following outcomes arise:

(a) The company sack the Miscreant Man without a Compromise Agreement. There will be a very high danger that his behaviour will then continue outside of the office, contacting you privately, possibly in new ways (might not be texts / might be turning up in person or some new behaviour).

(b) The company give the man a telling off / warning - to try and smooth things over.

Both of these options are going to lead to further problems and headaches for you.

You may need to find out who is the manager of your own direct line manager, or who deals with hiring and firing in this small firm? They must have an external Human Resources Consultant working for them to check the legality of all the "Contracts of Employment" they issue.

BunnyRuddington · 21/10/2025 08:01

Shs726 · 20/10/2025 10:41

coz I don’t lead the same life as you? And I’m sorry I wasn’t brave enough to address it formally a long time ago. I was internally scared a little.

Please be mindful there is a reason why so many cases go unreported.

but thank you

Not being brave has ended up with you in this situation though. You really do need to sort it out. It isn’t a case of being brave, at this point it’s your safety Thats at stake.

If you can’t sort it for yourself, do it for his next victim.

GnomeDePlume · 21/10/2025 08:53

Something to keep in mind is that the normal social rules dont apply for this man. He sees any interaction with you as positive.

Even if you were to scream 'F-off Graham you weirdo!' directly into his face, he would see that as positive.

Grey rock. Do not respond to him. You have already told him to leave you alone. I hope you find speaking with your manager helpful.

Elle771 · 21/10/2025 20:28

You're getting some harsh replies on here whi h isn't helpful, glad you've written it all down. I would still advise you so so so strongly to log with police in addition to formal steps at work as his refusal to desist does scream warning signs that a telling off from a manager isn't going to stop him.

You can do this x

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