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Proposal confusion

40 replies

sweetlikeme · 02/10/2025 16:30

Hi everyone,
I feel a bit silly even writing this, but it’s been on my mind lately and I’d really appreciate some kind and thoughtful perspectives.
I’ve been with my partner for 3 years. We don’t live together full-time because of his job — he’s away during the week and we see each other from Friday morning until Monday morning.

It works well in lots of ways: our children get along beautifully, our teenage daughters are like best friends, our families have met, and we all get on really well. I have a lovely relationship with his family and friends, and he’s very much part of mine too.

He’s 56 and I’ve just turned 50. We’ve both had previous long-term relationships. I was separated for 6 years and finally divorced about 6 months ago - the process dragged on due to my child’s health issues.

While I was going through all that, my partner often said things like, “Hurry up and get divorced because I want to ask you something,” and mentioned wanting to ask my brother for my hand in marriage. He told me his daughters have told him to propose and wanted to talk through how he'd do it but he said he told them he had his own how he’ll propose, and when we visit Scotland (where we plan to move one day), there are often family jokes about “buying a hat” or marriage in general — which I just laugh off, but if I’m honest, they make me feel a bit awkward now.

He often tells I’m his soulmate and the love of his life, and that he wants a life together. A few times when we’ve been out at the pub, he’s said he wants to marry me — but when I’ve replied, “Are you seriously proposing to me in the pub?” he’s laughed and said, “No, I’ve got a plan.”

There’s definitely talk of the future — he says that once I move into my new place (my current home is on the market), it’ll feel more “solid” for him. He’s said he’ll have a key and space in the wardrobe, and that it will feel more like we live together and he’s just away four days a week, rather than him just visiting at weekends. He’s also said he’ll contribute towards the bills and mortgage then. So it’s not as though there’s no commitment — but everything still feels very future-focused. It’s always “when you move,” or “when we get to Scotland,” or “once things settle.

I wasn’t particularly bothered about a proposal before, but I’m starting to feel this disconnect between what he says and what actually happens. I thought it might happen around my 50th birthday, but it didn’t. And lately, I’ve started to feel a bit low about it all.

I’ve made a lot of sacrifices — the weekend-only set-up, managing my home, work, and son (plus all the bills and responsibilities) during the week, while he’s away working rent-free — and I can’t help wondering if he’s just comfortable with things as they are.

More than anything, I’m beginning to feel like he doesn’t fully appreciate what he has in me, and it’s starting to chip away at my sense of self. It makes me question whether he’s truly sure about us, or whether I’m quietly waiting for something that’s never going to happen.

I don’t want to ask him to propose — I’d want it to come from him, if it’s something he genuinely wants. But I’m feeling uncertain now, and it’s beginning to affect how I feel about myself.

What would you do in my shoes? Would you bring it up or leave it be?

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perfectcolourfound · 02/10/2025 16:36

I would be honest with him. After all, your future shouldn't be in his hands. It should be a joint decision.

So I'd be clear... I want to get married, let's set the date. You'll have an idea where you stand by his response.

If he talks about proposing in Scotland, say 'you've gone on about that for ages, it's lost any sense of magic. Is being married more important, or a future theoretical proposal?'

wantmorenow · 02/10/2025 16:46

In the meantime, I'd be asking for a contribution to bills and food as a minimum.

MrsFantastic · 02/10/2025 16:50

I'd be put off by him asking my brother for "my hand'?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 02/10/2025 16:55

Does this man now have property of his own?. If not this could be why he is wanting to pay the mortgage on your new property purchase. He may think he has a claim on it.
Is your new property in Scotland?.

Where do his daughters live?.

Do not risk your future home for this man.

I am also wondering if he infact future faking you by suggesting marriage when he really means nothing of the sort.

sesquipedalian · 02/10/2025 16:56

OP, you’re fifty, you’ve been married before - you’re your own person. He doesn’t need “permission” from anyone to marry you. You’re also too old to be shilly-shallying around like this. Just say, straight up, look, you know I want us to be married, and I’ve waited long enough: when is it going to happen? Because if it isn’t, then you need to make other plans. This man’s got it with jam on at the moment - he needs to make some sort of commitment.

TeenLifeMum · 02/10/2025 16:59

I’d have an open conversation about the timeline so you can check you’re on the same page. Life is too short for hints and assumptions.

pikkumyy77 · 02/10/2025 17:01

I get a bad feeling about this. Promises and hints are cheap.

Vegandiva · 02/10/2025 17:01

So he’s been staying with you three days a week for how long and hasn’t contributed a cent towards living costs? Is he at least paying for all the food when he’s there?

outerspacepotato · 02/10/2025 17:05

Does he have his own place where he lives with his kids?

He needs to be contributing to your bills, he's at your place nearly half the month. No waiting until you move into a new place. He's costing you money and time right now. I would say do not let him contribute to the mortgage, wouldn't that give him a stake in your biggest financial asset? Sorry, but don't you want that asset for your kids?

Him wanting to ask your brother for your hand, I just hate that 18th century bullshit. You're a 50 year old woman who is an autonomous being in your own right. Gag.

I don't know if I'd marry him. I see misogyny with him wanting to ask your bro about marrying you and potential financial issues in not contributing to food and bills when he's there nearly half the month but then wanting to pay towards your mortgage when you move.

I think he's getting the benefits of having a partner without having to do too much. You're doing the heavy lifting here.

Suednymph · 02/10/2025 19:52

So he lives in your house half the week and is away the other half and presumably has no other place himself? Do his kids live in your place too? I personally think he is a future faking cocklodger being perfectly honest.

youmustbeshittingme · 02/10/2025 20:03

On the issue of proposing, I’m afraid I find it very odd that women wait and wait for their partner to ask them. If he says he’s going to propose then just get engaged FFS. He can still buy a ring or better still, choose one together.

Also, why on earth does he need to ask permission from your brother?!

I do agree with a PP, it sounds like he’s ’future faking’.

Ok, weird and outdated traditions aside, what’s the financial situation for both of you?
Does he have property? I would think very carefully about how the finances will work when you’re living together/married. Who gets what in divorce or death.
I wouldn’t let him think he can have a claim or a say over your house by paying part of the mortgage.

TellingBone · 02/10/2025 20:45

He's not daft is he? Why would he want to change the status quo? He has everything he wants AT NO COST

OpheliaNightingale · 02/10/2025 20:57

@sweetlikeme I don’t mean to come across as cynical..I would advise you to have a think about why you would like to marry. What are the reasons? You have a child to consider, do you have more assets than your partner? If so, marriage might not be the best decision financially. I would also be wary about the comment about paying towards your mortgage, as if you split he could have a claim on your property.

But if you are happy to go ahead with marriage,
tell him when you would like to be married and get it booked.

Merseymum1980 · 02/10/2025 21:46

OpheliaNightingale · 02/10/2025 20:57

@sweetlikeme I don’t mean to come across as cynical..I would advise you to have a think about why you would like to marry. What are the reasons? You have a child to consider, do you have more assets than your partner? If so, marriage might not be the best decision financially. I would also be wary about the comment about paying towards your mortgage, as if you split he could have a claim on your property.

But if you are happy to go ahead with marriage,
tell him when you would like to be married and get it booked.

This

Uskie · 02/10/2025 22:00

DO NOT sell your house for a future with this man.

If he was serious about marrying you he'd have asked you the moment you were free.

PurpleChrayn · 02/10/2025 22:01

Why would he be asking your brother? Are you from a feudal patriarchy?

ArghCheese123 · 02/10/2025 22:02

OP, is he contributing at all?

If not he sounds like a cocklodger.

Please don't marry him and give him half your new house, sounds mad.

Femaleone · 03/10/2025 00:37

Do NOT marry this man.

carmak · 03/10/2025 05:50

Hang on a minute, does he pay rent elsewhere? Does he contribute money for the three days at yours? Do his DDs stay with you.

Do not compromise your future security OP, be very, very careful. How will marriage benefit you and your child? I can see how it might be good for him.

Nsky62 · 03/10/2025 05:54

outerspacepotato · 02/10/2025 17:05

Does he have his own place where he lives with his kids?

He needs to be contributing to your bills, he's at your place nearly half the month. No waiting until you move into a new place. He's costing you money and time right now. I would say do not let him contribute to the mortgage, wouldn't that give him a stake in your biggest financial asset? Sorry, but don't you want that asset for your kids?

Him wanting to ask your brother for your hand, I just hate that 18th century bullshit. You're a 50 year old woman who is an autonomous being in your own right. Gag.

I don't know if I'd marry him. I see misogyny with him wanting to ask your bro about marrying you and potential financial issues in not contributing to food and bills when he's there nearly half the month but then wanting to pay towards your mortgage when you move.

I think he's getting the benefits of having a partner without having to do too much. You're doing the heavy lifting here.

Exactly, tho she has allowed it

Linenpickle · 03/10/2025 06:24

He lives with you but only weekends and doesn’t pay a penny?? Blimey… easy for him.

sweetlikeme · 03/10/2025 08:41

He owns a property in Scotland, worth around £800k, and has been putting a lot of time and money into renovating it for us to live in one day. We do spend some time there now, and I can see how much it means to him — it’s where his family are, and he absolutely loves it there.

He’s very generous in some ways he pays when we go out, for holidays, and he’s recently started helping me out financially by sending £130 a week to my account. I’ve been through a really hard time financially after an expensive court case to finalise my divorce, and I do really appreciate his help.

I’m now having to sell my family home and downsize to a flat. He doesn’t have any stake in it, but once I move, he’s said he’ll continue contributing to my account because he’ll be staying there more often — he’s always said he feels uncomfortable in my current house, as it’s where I used to live with my ex-husband.

What I find hard is that there’s no shared sense of responsibility. He earns very well and manages his own money entirely separately, choosing when to “help me out” rather than us having anything joint or shared. I don’t expect him to take on my finances, but it sometimes feels like he keeps everything in his control, and I just fit into his plans.

It’s similar with other parts of our life — there’s a lot of talk about the future, “when we move to Scotland,” “when everything’s sorted,” etc., but not a lot that feels rooted in the present. I suppose I thought that if he proposed, it might feel like he was more “all in,” rather than everything being about later, when life lines up with his vision of the future.

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FairyFinance · 03/10/2025 08:58

Hmm, no disrespect OP but I'm not sure he should be getting married or you for that matter.

Both of you have children and assets. If you marry those are put at risk should you divorce or if one of you dies first.

He may be having the same thoughts.

sweetlikeme · 03/10/2025 09:54

@FairyFinance thank you for responding. Actually in terms of assetts we have pretty much the same in property. At the moment though, I have had a financially stretched time because of the court case and so he's helped me out by contributing to my household expenses every week.

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TheGrimSmile · 03/10/2025 10:11

I would think long and hard about this. What is he bringing financially to the marriage? If you own a home and he doesn't then I would not marry him. As PPs have said, do not let him contribute to the mortgage either. I also have a bad feeling about this. Why are you so keen to get married? What would it actually change - other than him being entitled to half your assets?