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Proposal confusion

40 replies

sweetlikeme · 02/10/2025 16:30

Hi everyone,
I feel a bit silly even writing this, but it’s been on my mind lately and I’d really appreciate some kind and thoughtful perspectives.
I’ve been with my partner for 3 years. We don’t live together full-time because of his job — he’s away during the week and we see each other from Friday morning until Monday morning.

It works well in lots of ways: our children get along beautifully, our teenage daughters are like best friends, our families have met, and we all get on really well. I have a lovely relationship with his family and friends, and he’s very much part of mine too.

He’s 56 and I’ve just turned 50. We’ve both had previous long-term relationships. I was separated for 6 years and finally divorced about 6 months ago - the process dragged on due to my child’s health issues.

While I was going through all that, my partner often said things like, “Hurry up and get divorced because I want to ask you something,” and mentioned wanting to ask my brother for my hand in marriage. He told me his daughters have told him to propose and wanted to talk through how he'd do it but he said he told them he had his own how he’ll propose, and when we visit Scotland (where we plan to move one day), there are often family jokes about “buying a hat” or marriage in general — which I just laugh off, but if I’m honest, they make me feel a bit awkward now.

He often tells I’m his soulmate and the love of his life, and that he wants a life together. A few times when we’ve been out at the pub, he’s said he wants to marry me — but when I’ve replied, “Are you seriously proposing to me in the pub?” he’s laughed and said, “No, I’ve got a plan.”

There’s definitely talk of the future — he says that once I move into my new place (my current home is on the market), it’ll feel more “solid” for him. He’s said he’ll have a key and space in the wardrobe, and that it will feel more like we live together and he’s just away four days a week, rather than him just visiting at weekends. He’s also said he’ll contribute towards the bills and mortgage then. So it’s not as though there’s no commitment — but everything still feels very future-focused. It’s always “when you move,” or “when we get to Scotland,” or “once things settle.

I wasn’t particularly bothered about a proposal before, but I’m starting to feel this disconnect between what he says and what actually happens. I thought it might happen around my 50th birthday, but it didn’t. And lately, I’ve started to feel a bit low about it all.

I’ve made a lot of sacrifices — the weekend-only set-up, managing my home, work, and son (plus all the bills and responsibilities) during the week, while he’s away working rent-free — and I can’t help wondering if he’s just comfortable with things as they are.

More than anything, I’m beginning to feel like he doesn’t fully appreciate what he has in me, and it’s starting to chip away at my sense of self. It makes me question whether he’s truly sure about us, or whether I’m quietly waiting for something that’s never going to happen.

I don’t want to ask him to propose — I’d want it to come from him, if it’s something he genuinely wants. But I’m feeling uncertain now, and it’s beginning to affect how I feel about myself.

What would you do in my shoes? Would you bring it up or leave it be?

OP posts:
sweetlikeme · 03/10/2025 10:16

@TheGrimSmile he does have a property and he has a good job. its not as though hes freeloading - at least i dont think he is. I guess I want some firm commitment and a sense of shared responsibility.

OP posts:
ARichtGoodDram · 03/10/2025 10:19

When he's working away four days a week is that in Scotland? Or elsewhere?

MorrisZapp · 03/10/2025 10:36

800k in Scotland is Edinburgh or a huge pile somewhere outwith. Do you also own assets of this kind of value?

sweetlikeme · 03/10/2025 10:40

@MorrisZapp yes i have a property in london around the same value

OP posts:
sweetlikeme · 03/10/2025 10:50

@ARichtGoodDram no hes working about an hour and a half away from me

OP posts:
FairyFinance · 03/10/2025 11:24

I'm sorry OP I just don't get it.

You are going through a divorce and you want to jump straight into another marriage, where once again assets will be at risk regardless of how evenly matched you are. It doesn't make any sense.

Don't you want to keep your own assets for your DD to inherit free of blended family complications?

Out of the frying pan into the fire springs to mind here.

beeeeeeez · 03/10/2025 12:01

I'm going to go against the grain:
You have similar assets.
He is contributing financially.
He talks about a future together in positive terms.
You have only just settled a prolonged divorce, allowing some time to recover is sensible.
He is doing up a house for you to live in together.

All of this sounds green flag to me.

Ultimate question is, do you love him?

FairyFinance · 03/10/2025 12:20

beeeeeeez · 03/10/2025 12:01

I'm going to go against the grain:
You have similar assets.
He is contributing financially.
He talks about a future together in positive terms.
You have only just settled a prolonged divorce, allowing some time to recover is sensible.
He is doing up a house for you to live in together.

All of this sounds green flag to me.

Ultimate question is, do you love him?

It's not just about all that though when there are children involved.

Second time around you need to be so careful you're not going to disadvantage your own child for the sake of a new relationship, which may or may not work out in the long run no matter what good intentions there are at the beginning.

Life and financial situations can change so fast.

Any women with assets would be crazy to remarry. Often you don't know what you're getting into until it's too late or know what life has ahead.

Protecting my child's inheritance so they get a good start in life and are not subject to second family complications would be my main priority.

ButSheSaid · 03/10/2025 12:36

Do you want to risk losing half of all your assets by marrying this man? Living separately and just dating without the drudgery and financial risk sounds far better for everyone.

Kerrisk · 03/10/2025 12:45

ButSheSaid · 03/10/2025 12:36

Do you want to risk losing half of all your assets by marrying this man? Living separately and just dating without the drudgery and financial risk sounds far better for everyone.

This. You’d be crazy to marry him,OP.

outerspacepotato · 03/10/2025 12:47

has been putting a lot of time and money into renovating it for us to live in one day.

If he's working away 4 days a week and spends every Friday to Monday morning at your place, how is he able to put time into renovations? At least he has recently been sending you money to cover the rise in expenses he's costing you. I really don't like the sound of him contributing to the mortgage on your flat that you'll be buying, that gives him a claim to what should be your property and what if you split? You could have a forced sale and poof to your biggest financial asset. Get legal and financial advice if he does propose.

You've been with him 3 years. If a proposal was going to happen, I think it would have already.

I think trying to blend families with teens is not a good idea. Teens who get along when they see each other occasionally can be very different when they're in each other's faces 24/7.

I'm seeing more red flags on he feels uncomfortable in the house you shared with your ex. You've been together 3 years now and he can't get that out of his mind? That's weird and I think it's another red flag.

"What I find hard is that there’s no shared sense of responsibility. He earns very well and manages his own money entirely separately, choosing when to “help me out” rather than us having anything joint or shared."

That's how it should be. You think an unmarried couple who don't live together should be sharing finances, that's a giant red flag on your part. Emotional commitment does not equal financial sharing.

I think you need to see a lawyer before you proceed any further with this guy and see how you can protect your assets and your child. If you married and something happened to you, he could possibly end up with your assets and your son with nothing. He could sell the house out from under your son and leave him homeless.

This might possibly be his mindset, that if he married you he's risking his assets.

GiveDogBone · 03/10/2025 18:36

Wow the man-haters are out in force on this one.

No, he’s not after your money. He’s financially independent (you basically both are); he’s contributing financially to the relationship. If finances bother you, then get a prenup, it’s more and more common with second marriages with adult children - you’ll both take out what your brought in.

It also sounds like you have a great relationship, and you’re both happy (which makes the typical MN advice to dump the man even more useless) but something is holding him back from popping the question. It could be he’s still scarred from his first marriage, could be he’s waiting for a perfect moment to arrive, who knows? Talk to him about it and see what he says.

ARichtGoodDram · 03/10/2025 19:16

Are you all moving to Scotland?

If your daughters and families get on so well does that mean you live close together atm? Or are his family in Scotland already?

Slimmernow · 03/10/2025 19:24

Where was he living Fri-Mon when you met? Does he still have that property?

IMHO marriage is helpful for financial foundations to raise children - not sure how this legal / financial entanglement set up is sensible later in life for second marriages and the existing DCs for when one of you dies, needs care or the relationship ends.

Financial independence is critical - as you have recently experienced trying to extract it in a lengthy and costly court case.

Have a ‘wedding’ for romantic / social reasons but be very careful about throwing your hard won cash into his dreams. What’s the long term pan with your London flat, your local friends and family and your DCs. Is the move for when he retires - 10 years time?

Does he have ZERO outgoings because he’s in work accommodation or at yours?

Did he inherit the house in Scotland? If so what has he accrued in life to date?

Did he have a similar set up with his previous partner - eg away for the week stayed at hers for free for 3 days (ie no expenses) - why did this relationship fail? Is she the mother of his daughter?

Why has it taken him 3 years to start paying his way? Were you feeding and running up your bills for him and his DD for 3 years every Fri-Mon?

Maybe he is a serial cocklodger who is exploiting women whilst he builds his retirement portfolio?

Maybe he has sensed that he is runing out of road on the future faking so has bunged you a few quid recently, like throwing a bone to keep you distracted.

The ‘soul mate’ stuff is big red flag to me - ‘love-bombing’ goes along with ‘future faking’ - Google both of those terms.

VaddaABeetch · 03/10/2025 19:44

I know several women who remarried in their early 50s. All bar are separated again & finances are a mess as they head towards late 50s. Has messed up their retirement plans.

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