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How's this likely to go?

53 replies

Wwudits67 · 22/09/2025 17:18

I'm in a new relationship after a few months of dating. It's great. In terms of us we are really good. No issues. We said I love you this week and have agreed we are going to continue as we are happy.

The only thing thats wrong is he's agreed with his ex to play dad to her toddler that was just one when he got with his ex. They lasted just over a year. She ended it, threw him out. They had got engaged etc. The ex has no clue about me and him. Hes terrified as she will apparently turn nasty and he's scared she will remove access to the child.

Hes had her 6 out of 7 weekends. We had something booked in this weekend. The night before she asked if he could have her child so she could go to the pub. Every weekend she's got plans. Hes got the child for the next 3 weekends. Im hoping we can do something on the 4th one!

She's been awful with her demanding. She tried to demand maintenance and he said no. I provide when i have her. She then made him buy all the stuff for his place including clothes, pushchair, toys and nappies. She sends long nasty abusive cruel messages then goess back softer for the weekend.

He says he won't walk and can't walk first but fully expects she will stop the access soon. But I worry for the long term. What's the likely outcome?

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Devilsmommy · 22/09/2025 17:20

So it's not his child? Why the hell would he pay maintenance for a child that isn't even his? And why is he even still in the kids life anyway 🤷

ClickClickety · 22/09/2025 17:21

Sounds like she relies on him for childcare so she won't want to cut ties, just make his and your lives hell.

Wwudits67 · 22/09/2025 17:23

Devilsmommy · 22/09/2025 17:20

So it's not his child? Why the hell would he pay maintenance for a child that isn't even his? And why is he even still in the kids life anyway 🤷

It's not his child but he met her at 11 months old and he got attached and they taught her he's daddy! He said he loves her that much that it hurts him not seeing her daily now.

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NuffSaidSam · 22/09/2025 17:25

Run OP.

Run now and run far.

Do not get yourself involved in this madness.

RealEagle · 22/09/2025 17:27

So she uses him to have the kid every weekend so she can go out. Why dos he not want to spend weekends with you, This is nuts do yourself a favour and get away from this nonsense.

outerspacepotato · 22/09/2025 17:28

The likely outcome is they will continue to be high conflict over a child that isn't his and was only in his life for a year. She will harass him for money, he will pay for access, and your weekend will not be pleasant times with your BF, but being hidden away. What are you providing and when do you have her?

This is going to be a drama filled shit fest. Do you really want that in your life?

chipsticksmammy · 22/09/2025 17:28

Run. Do not get involved.

Wwudits67 · 22/09/2025 17:31

RealEagle · 22/09/2025 17:27

So she uses him to have the kid every weekend so she can go out. Why dos he not want to spend weekends with you, This is nuts do yourself a favour and get away from this nonsense.

He does he said no this weekend as we went out! He really does put effort into me. Hes just trapped in fear of annoying her

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Bittenonce · 22/09/2025 17:32

How old is the kid now?

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 22/09/2025 17:34

He can't request access because he adores the child and then refuse to pay maintenance.

He either considers the child his, or he doesn't. If they had married, BTW, he could have been expected to pay maintenance. (it's not automatic but can be court ordered.)

Effectively you've got yourself a boyfriend who has a child. Is that what you wanted?

ThreePears · 22/09/2025 17:35

That poor little tot. She's the innocent pawn in all this, not you, and he is currently doing what is best for the child. I'm sorry OP, but he has to put the child's welfare first. Only you know whether you are prepared to tolerate that or not. But bear in mind that if you give him an ultimatum, he will choose her over you.

RealEagle · 22/09/2025 17:37

Wwudits67 · 22/09/2025 17:31

He does he said no this weekend as we went out! He really does put effort into me. Hes just trapped in fear of annoying her

He needs to stay away she’s gonna play mind games with him.

outerspacepotato · 22/09/2025 17:39

Wwudits67 · 22/09/2025 17:31

He does he said no this weekend as we went out! He really does put effort into me. Hes just trapped in fear of annoying her

He's going to lose access at some point unless he does exactly what she wants and that's pay her money, take the child most weekends and whenever ex wants, and hide any relationship he has. She controls him through access to her child. That's toxic.

His ex can yank his access at any time she wants. He has no rights. They weren't even married.

He can't have an relationship out in the open because he's afraid it will piss ex off.

Do you really want to be his dirty little secret and jump to her tune while your BF spends his time and money on her child? Do you want to be a part of a toxic triangle?

Wwudits67 · 22/09/2025 17:41

ThreePears · 22/09/2025 17:35

That poor little tot. She's the innocent pawn in all this, not you, and he is currently doing what is best for the child. I'm sorry OP, but he has to put the child's welfare first. Only you know whether you are prepared to tolerate that or not. But bear in mind that if you give him an ultimatum, he will choose her over you.

The problem is how horrible and controlling the mum is. She threw him out. She is vile to him. She won't let him see her unless it's on her terms. So he's refused all requests he makes.

I have actually bought her some clothes and a doll. I've not met her yet. But id happily accept her. But he's too scared of the mum taking her away he can't tell her he's with me..

It's not about me taking him away from the child. It's about the stress for everybody. They weren't married. Hes stepped up and spends plenty on her. He adores her, its just the mum.

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gardennew · 22/09/2025 17:43

NuffSaidSam · 22/09/2025 17:25

Run OP.

Run now and run far.

Do not get yourself involved in this madness.

This

Anchorage56 · 22/09/2025 17:44

Wwudits67 · 22/09/2025 17:41

The problem is how horrible and controlling the mum is. She threw him out. She is vile to him. She won't let him see her unless it's on her terms. So he's refused all requests he makes.

I have actually bought her some clothes and a doll. I've not met her yet. But id happily accept her. But he's too scared of the mum taking her away he can't tell her he's with me..

It's not about me taking him away from the child. It's about the stress for everybody. They weren't married. Hes stepped up and spends plenty on her. He adores her, its just the mum.

This isn't a good situation to be in. Imagine this goes on for year after year and gets worse year after year- is that the life you want?

Wwudits67 · 22/09/2025 17:46

outerspacepotato · 22/09/2025 17:39

He's going to lose access at some point unless he does exactly what she wants and that's pay her money, take the child most weekends and whenever ex wants, and hide any relationship he has. She controls him through access to her child. That's toxic.

His ex can yank his access at any time she wants. He has no rights. They weren't even married.

He can't have an relationship out in the open because he's afraid it will piss ex off.

Do you really want to be his dirty little secret and jump to her tune while your BF spends his time and money on her child? Do you want to be a part of a toxic triangle?

Nope I don't but he's told his family about me. My photos up in his house. He adores me and the relationship is wonderful really. He has said she will have to find out one day but he said she turns and I don't deserve it,

But I must admit I'm worried about all this long term

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TheAvidWriter · 22/09/2025 18:08

My worry OP would be this one.

Your DP clearly has seen how she abuses his kind nature towards her DD. And is exploiting this. He knows this, but like you said has told you that he worries that if he tells her he is now seeing someone new, she will go balistic, and take it out on her DD by withdrawing contact or via emotional blackmail.

This has zero to do with the child, and all to do with the mother and what she needs, aka pub outings and any extra cash there is regardless of who the father is. Of course she was going to attempt to dig deep into his pockets, she has a lifestyle to maintain.

This can be draining on any relationship, and the ex knows full well that by demanding his time when he has free time, she thinks that she can then halt all his plans to see other people, and keep him at arms length for when she needs him. It has zero to do with the child, again its all about what this ex can get. I am sure that ones she finds out that your DP has you, she will punish him and her DD. And there will be emotional blackmail to maintain whatever she can regarding your DP and the things he is doing for her.

These things can get ugly, and your DP has probably seen it first hand and is therefor anxious going forward. I would try and support him in any way possible and show him he is merely a cashcow and babysitter.

What your DP does now in his private life does not need an explanation to his ex, non whatsoever. He should put his foot down and claim his life back, and give reasonable access to himself, not every weekend.

If you two are going to stand a chance he will need to sit his ex down, tell her things are changing, and stick to it, regarless of any threat of withholding contact, or whatever she may come up with, and he needs to realise that he may loose here by getting into another relationship, and that is something he is fully aware of by the sounds of things.

outerspacepotato · 22/09/2025 18:11

It's not her mom.

It's your boyfriend. He's letting his controlling ex weaponize her child. If he doesn't dance to her tune, he loses access.

He's choosing this. He thinks he can play both ends and the middle, have you as hidden gf while trying to constantly placate his ex so he can see her kid.

You would be silly to get any more involved, this guy has issues and is high conflict with an ex. Let him go. Tell him when his issues with his ex are solved, you'll see where it goes. Otherwise you are in for drama and conflict and all sorts of negativity.

You shouldn't be meeting her, it's way too soon and even more so in a high conflict situation.

Lollytea655 · 22/09/2025 18:15

I’d be wary you haven’t got the full picture here to be honest. You’re telling me that they were only together for a bit over a year and yet they were living together, engaged and playing daddy to a child that isn’t his? Nah. And if that all is true I’d be even more wary of a man moving that fast!

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 22/09/2025 18:19

I'd be very worried about this man getting too intense too quickly. He fell in love with a small child that he only knew for a year? That really wasn't wise anyway, bearing in mind that she's not his. And now he's in love with you? I'd just be concerned about his propensity for loving so intensely so quickly.

The child's mum could move away at any time. She needn't even tell him, as he's not the child's father. She could fall for a bloke at the other end of the country and be gone, and he'd never even know where she'd gone. He needs to wean himself away from the poor little girl, to say nothing of the effect it's going to have on his life going forward.

Bittenonce · 22/09/2025 18:29

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 22/09/2025 18:19

I'd be very worried about this man getting too intense too quickly. He fell in love with a small child that he only knew for a year? That really wasn't wise anyway, bearing in mind that she's not his. And now he's in love with you? I'd just be concerned about his propensity for loving so intensely so quickly.

The child's mum could move away at any time. She needn't even tell him, as he's not the child's father. She could fall for a bloke at the other end of the country and be gone, and he'd never even know where she'd gone. He needs to wean himself away from the poor little girl, to say nothing of the effect it's going to have on his life going forward.

This. I worry that he’s got as many issues as the ex. Roll on Jeremy Kyle

YellowBlueStar · 22/09/2025 18:30

Where is the child's biological father? Surely he's the one who should be paying maintenence/having the child at weekends.
As someone else has mentioned, there's nothing stopping the ex gf meeting someone else who the child may be encouraged to regard as its new daddy and then moving away. What will your bf do then?
And what happens if, in the future, you have children yourself? Will you have to accommodate and provide for the exe's child then too? I think it all sounds as if it could get complicated.

Homegrownberries · 22/09/2025 18:32

"How's this likely to go? "

Badly.

fedup078 · 22/09/2025 18:34

This is absolutely batshit