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DP encouraging me to move abroad as better for our relationship

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espania · 19/09/2025 19:09

I have been in a relationship with a man 17 years older than me for over 11y. Initially there was a lot of talk about marriage and children. He has adult DC, I have none and family is important to me. I was never pushing for anything but we knew that due to his medical situation we would have to look into alternative methods of conceiving, yet he never explored them knowing how importnat it was to me. I started having employment problems in covid and retrained. Despite new career path it now looks that it is not working and my only option is to perhaps go back to my country of origin where the pay and lifestyle is better and I would be able to get work much quicker. Unemployment obviously has been affecting my mental wellbeing but I get no support from my DP who only talks about his job and it is a very well paid exec role. You can imagine how downgraded I feel when my emotional needs for being heard are dismissed in every conversation. I asked him numerous times to help me and introduce me to his network of recruiters but it never happened. There is always a reason why it is a no. Over the years my need for family got silenced, the plans for marriage vanished, any assitance with job search is not there so I started looking abroad.
Having in mind that he did not pop a question, it is a bit too late for me to have a child, we have not been intimate for years, I feel I am just a companion. To my surpise in the last 8 months DP has been very upbeat about the idea of us sharing life between two countries and flying each weekend. I find it exhausting. His work allows working from home 2 days but currently he chooses to go to the office most days. All he talks about is his retirement but there is no plans in place when and how is he going to do it. He owns his house outright but we do not live there as for years it has been a relict of his former marriage. He has been talking about selling it ever since we have been together, and the house had a buyer but he did not sell it. The thing that puzzles me is his encourgement that we share life between two countries. He told me that living in two countries has us more chances to survive as a couple than us living in one house like we do now. I can not comprehend the logic behind it unless of course in his mid 60s he has a lover. A month ago we spoke very bluntly about marriage and he said ok let's get married, we went on exotic holidays and I was hopeful he may pop a question specialy that he booked a full moon dinner and we were out every evening but nothing happened. We did not even get intimate. Nothing. He was very proud when people called me his wife to him but I always speak up and say we are not married, people always ask him why not, he gets all sheepish and there is that awkward silence. His friends asked him many times why he's not getting married to me but he has no answer. In my view when you do know what it is about it is always about money. He doesn not want me to be his wife becasue his DC will have to share inheritance. He sees current set up as having a 'wife' without an expense of it, for 11 years served him well so why bother. I get that but what I do not understand and want your opinion on is, what is his logic behind the relationship surviving if we live in separate countires? Surely he must be aware that I will meet someone? Or is he just happily trying to let me go? Almost as if, if I go it will be my decision not his. Almost as if I move it frees him from the relationship responsibility and on weekend he can have me as his dinner companion but that is just ridiculous.

OP posts:
VictoriaHelen · 19/09/2025 19:48

I’m really sorry you’re going through this. Reading your post, it sounds as though you’ve been incredibly patient and loyal, but he’s given very little back in terms of emotional support, commitment or concrete plans. After 11 years, the marriage/children conversations have gone nowhere, intimacy has faded, and he’s now floating a “two-country” arrangement that seems designed to keep you around but at arm’s length.

Living in two countries won’t magically fix a relationship it often does the opposite, especially if one partner is already feeling neglected. To me it reads less like a plan for a future together and more like a way to avoid making a real decision, while still keeping the benefits of companionship.

You’ve worked hard, retrained, and you’re still young enough to build the life and family you want. Moving back to your home country might feel scary but it could give you a fresh start, financial stability and the chance to meet someone who shares your values. You’re not wrong to want marriage, support and intimacy those are basic needs, not unreasonable demands.

Whatever you choose, think about your long term happiness, not just what’s convenient for him. You deserve more than being someone’s weekend companion.

pikkumyy77 · 19/09/2025 19:52

Stop worrying about what this INCREDIBLY selfish old man wants snd start protecting yourself. Just go. After 11 years of “companionship” you have nothing to show for it: no marriage, children, financial security—nothing. If you had never gotten involved with him you could have had all those things.

Wegovy2026 · 19/09/2025 19:55

Why would you want to be married to a man you are not intimate with?

WatchingTheDetective · 19/09/2025 19:57

I don't think I've ever read a thread on here where the OP wants to marry someone who's clearly reluctant and I could understand why she wanted to marry him.

Why are you hankering after marriage to this man who's completely selfish, has his children but doesn't consider your own needs, who is so much older than you and will need (and expect) care from you, who doesn't have sex with you and who now wants you to live abroad?! What is the point when you could start again and find someone lovely?

Move back to your home country and start again. This man was a mistake.

User2025meow · 19/09/2025 19:59

You can’t trust this man at all. Look after yourself.

Dozer · 19/09/2025 19:59

Leave him: you’ve wasted way too much time already!

Nodesire4aNegroni · 19/09/2025 20:01

Why are you still with him ?

LemondrizzleShark · 19/09/2025 20:03

He’s trying to get rid of you. I don’t know why, but if you move back to your country of origin you’ll likely never see him again because these planned “visits” will go the same way as the children and marriage.

He sounds horrible OP, and he has completely wasted your life. I would dump him and try to move on.

Subwaystop · 19/09/2025 20:10

This was so hard to read. Infuriating actually. You’re wasting your life on this old misogynist who is taking you for a mug and stringing you along. Cut your losses and save more wasted time.

atinydropofcherrysherry · 19/09/2025 20:14

You should never accept this arrangement from an older man, without the papers. I suggest you move back.
He: 1 Does not marry you 2 Does not make kids 3. Does not invest in training you or provide a job for you 4 Would not leave any inheritance to you 5 Respect his former wife home more than the whole of you 6 Wants you to just travel around like a prostitute, being a companion on holidays

why are you with him

SleepingStandingUp · 19/09/2025 20:14

You're late 4ps, not 106
Stop living so passively and wasting more years of your life.

You met in your mid-late 3ps, wanted kids but knew it would need medical assistance. But he didn't do it so you just sat there and let your chances go.

You wNted marriage but he didn't ask. He's finally said ok let's get married andi nstead of saying ok, how about X date, You've sat back because he hasn't said the magic words correctly/ hasn't started planning it himself.

Now you're putting so much weight on understanding why he wants you to go abroad instead of just doing what is right for you.

He's mid 60s, you don't have sex, he's protecting his money from yiu5, he isn't emotionally supportive, he isn't interested in your success.

Surely the only reason to marry him in the inheritance but it surely isn't worth the next 30 years of your life

PruthePrune · 19/09/2025 20:21

You have wasted enough time on this selfish fucker, get rid

Whenthetimeisright · 19/09/2025 20:38

How can you believe a word he says to you OP?
What a selfish man.
Sit down and think what you want and what is best for you. And certainly your plans shouldn't include him. You are worth so much more.

outerspacepotato · 19/09/2025 21:01

You've wasted 11 years on this old ass future faker.

That's your sunk cost. Nothing's going to change, in fact he's coming to the point where he's going to want you to be his caregiver while all his assets go to his children and you're left holding the bag of nothing. He thinks you'll stick around for more of his bullshit, it's not like you haven't for 11 years of listening to a pack of lies.

Move to your country and block him.

Househassles · 19/09/2025 21:25

Who cares why he's doing it? You've said if we live in separate countries ... Surely he must be aware that I will meet someone? So you CAN see a future without him. It's completely up to you where you live - your original country, the country where you live now, another country. Do what you want, what YOU think is best for you and your future. You know on some level that you absolutely can leave this person behind, so recognise that he is doing nothing for you and does not care about you and go, live your life!!!

(PS - I don't know where the two of you currently live, but there are very few places in the world where remarrying guarantees the new spouse anything more than the continued ability to survive. If he begrudges you that, that tells you all you need to know).

espania · 19/09/2025 22:53

I am glad I posted here as at least I know the way I think is the way others think about it. People in RL say the same. Interesting comment @Househassles as yes he begrudged already by making strange comments and not being intrested in providing any security for me in case something happened. I literally built nothing in 11 years but he blames me for it by saying i did not invest my money in a new house with him. I always thought we will have a baby first to ensure it is born, then get married and then look for home but he was always pushing for home first which made me reluctant as I felt I have no guarantee for baby and marriage but I have a guarantee for losing my money and it becoming part of his DC inheritance. I never shared any finances with him.

OP posts:
cooldarkroom · 19/09/2025 22:54

From your OP, re tweaked.
"He is just happily trying to let me go"
"If I go it will be my decision not his".
"It frees him from the relationship responsibility"

He will gradually say it's not working, & you are no longer going to be a financial difficulty to him & his heirs.

Get yourself back to your Home country & enjoy your life.

Dery · 19/09/2025 23:02

You’ve already given him 11 years and got nothing in return. Please do not waste any more of your precious time with him. Leave him and build a life without him.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 19/09/2025 23:04

Why are you even still with him...

NeverOneBiscuit · 19/09/2025 23:10

Leave him. He’s a selfish old git who’s just stringing you along. Find somebody who actually wants to marry you & have children. It’s not him. Plus as you don’t have sex it would have to be the immaculate conception!

I’m sorry you’ve been treated like this.

espania · 19/09/2025 23:20

I asked him if (considering the current situation) would he mind if I looked into sperm donor option? He said he minds and it set him off. I told him my plans have not changed, I still could become a mother through different routes and I am open to explore. I asked him many times about looking into options but he did not. I asked him whether he realises that if we live in two countries I am likely to meet someone and I could see in his face he has not thought this through. I am surprised he does not think I will have social life and may not be availbale as his weekend companion. My other question was about those flying visits - obviously if he comes to me he stays at my place but when I come to UK this would mean me coming to his marital home and reliving the space and atmosphere of the past. Again silence. I find it all very odd. Not thought through.

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PussInBin20 · 20/09/2025 00:42

espania · 19/09/2025 22:53

I am glad I posted here as at least I know the way I think is the way others think about it. People in RL say the same. Interesting comment @Househassles as yes he begrudged already by making strange comments and not being intrested in providing any security for me in case something happened. I literally built nothing in 11 years but he blames me for it by saying i did not invest my money in a new house with him. I always thought we will have a baby first to ensure it is born, then get married and then look for home but he was always pushing for home first which made me reluctant as I felt I have no guarantee for baby and marriage but I have a guarantee for losing my money and it becoming part of his DC inheritance. I never shared any finances with him.

But you wouldn’t lose your money. You would own your share of the house- that wouldn’t go to his DCs.

I think you have been quite passive about decisions for your own life/choices. You didn’t have to go along with everything he said. And you still don’t.

sittingonabeach · 20/09/2025 00:45

How are you financially?

PruthePrune · 20/09/2025 01:08

If you want to try for a baby via sperm donation then do it. You don't need his permission. Please don't waste anymore time on this man.

Crikeyalmighty · 20/09/2025 14:53

I think he’s trying to get rid of you too OP but have you there on a back burner - I’m not sure why - met someone else maybe? Likes more free time? Uses hookers? I couldn’t say - but I think he’s trying to sideline you without actually causing a scene