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DP encouraging me to move abroad as better for our relationship

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espania · 19/09/2025 19:09

I have been in a relationship with a man 17 years older than me for over 11y. Initially there was a lot of talk about marriage and children. He has adult DC, I have none and family is important to me. I was never pushing for anything but we knew that due to his medical situation we would have to look into alternative methods of conceiving, yet he never explored them knowing how importnat it was to me. I started having employment problems in covid and retrained. Despite new career path it now looks that it is not working and my only option is to perhaps go back to my country of origin where the pay and lifestyle is better and I would be able to get work much quicker. Unemployment obviously has been affecting my mental wellbeing but I get no support from my DP who only talks about his job and it is a very well paid exec role. You can imagine how downgraded I feel when my emotional needs for being heard are dismissed in every conversation. I asked him numerous times to help me and introduce me to his network of recruiters but it never happened. There is always a reason why it is a no. Over the years my need for family got silenced, the plans for marriage vanished, any assitance with job search is not there so I started looking abroad.
Having in mind that he did not pop a question, it is a bit too late for me to have a child, we have not been intimate for years, I feel I am just a companion. To my surpise in the last 8 months DP has been very upbeat about the idea of us sharing life between two countries and flying each weekend. I find it exhausting. His work allows working from home 2 days but currently he chooses to go to the office most days. All he talks about is his retirement but there is no plans in place when and how is he going to do it. He owns his house outright but we do not live there as for years it has been a relict of his former marriage. He has been talking about selling it ever since we have been together, and the house had a buyer but he did not sell it. The thing that puzzles me is his encourgement that we share life between two countries. He told me that living in two countries has us more chances to survive as a couple than us living in one house like we do now. I can not comprehend the logic behind it unless of course in his mid 60s he has a lover. A month ago we spoke very bluntly about marriage and he said ok let's get married, we went on exotic holidays and I was hopeful he may pop a question specialy that he booked a full moon dinner and we were out every evening but nothing happened. We did not even get intimate. Nothing. He was very proud when people called me his wife to him but I always speak up and say we are not married, people always ask him why not, he gets all sheepish and there is that awkward silence. His friends asked him many times why he's not getting married to me but he has no answer. In my view when you do know what it is about it is always about money. He doesn not want me to be his wife becasue his DC will have to share inheritance. He sees current set up as having a 'wife' without an expense of it, for 11 years served him well so why bother. I get that but what I do not understand and want your opinion on is, what is his logic behind the relationship surviving if we live in separate countires? Surely he must be aware that I will meet someone? Or is he just happily trying to let me go? Almost as if, if I go it will be my decision not his. Almost as if I move it frees him from the relationship responsibility and on weekend he can have me as his dinner companion but that is just ridiculous.

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espania · 20/09/2025 23:56

He says he is fed up but doesnt want to say with/about what. I suspect he thought that he can get away with dangling the carrot forever and I will just accept the crumbs. He had a vision of me in his old house as a housekeeper (not working) but no security (family/ roots) and he never anticipated I will also get fed up waiting. Now all this became tirig for both of us so I guess he wants me away so he can live his life on his terms in his old house and tell his friends and family that it was necessary for me to go away due to my work commitments but ocassionaly I may pop in. Well this doesnt suit me. I am not sure why he can not accept that I will meet someone else. I am not going to stay in sexless companionship for the rest of my life. I think he also wants to make sure it looks like I left so he has a narrative for friends and family. I can be demonised in the story. Sadly it doesnt work like that because if people observe a pattern, they draw their own conclusions. It can not be that every woman who leaves the same man is wrong. I watch him how frustrated he gets at the smallest thing at home/ chore to do I ask help with. It almost feels like housework is beneath him and he doesnt have to do it because he earns the money and I am here to do it as part of my input. The fact that strangers address us husband and wife plays to his advantage but I tend to correct people and say we are not married which causes awkwardness as why would he not marry me. I genuinely believe he thought he can get a younger arm candy, housekeeper, carer and copanion all for free. Whenever there was any talk from me about providing security in case something happens to him - even if it is to give me 12 months living at his place before DC chuck me out or anythng, he gets angry and shouts at me. I asked him why is it that you gave a woman who left you (exw) everything what you deny me? No answer.

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Sodthesystem · 21/09/2025 00:06

He sounds like a blithering cunt.

Your partner is supposed to be your biggest champion but this guy actively drags you down.
Ditch him and do what is best for you. Ps: it's actually a lucky escape not to have had kids with this guy.

Nodesire4aNegroni · 21/09/2025 09:55

If you want a child create one with a donor or a ONS

You do not need his permission

Make a new life for yourself

user2848502016 · 21/09/2025 10:15

Just Leave OP, seriously. Stop wasting your life. Go back to your home country and start a new life, hopefully you will meet someone new and be happy

Sassylovesbooks · 21/09/2025 10:16

If after 11 years there's been no marriage proposal and the idea of children disappeared, then none of that now is going to happen. Your partner is settled in the life he has, he sees no reason to marry you. As for living in two separate countries, and spending time in each - that's not going to work particularly well is it?! He's not very supportive of you now! I think he's trying to very subtly, put distance between you. You'll go back to your country, and there will be a barrage of excuses on why he can't visit you, this week/month. Until, he just stops communicating with you too, to the point you're ghosted. He's too cowardly to end the relationship, so this is an elaborate way of doing so, without him being the 'bad guy'. Honestly, I think he treats you like crap, you'd better off living somewhere you can find work, and meeting someone who's worthy of you - your partner isn't.

TalulahJP · 21/09/2025 11:12

Who would be happy to leave the woman they love homeless in the event of death? even to give them a year or even six months in the house before it’s left to the kids.
So a) he doesn't love you.

Who would want to deny a younger wife that wants just one baby, even if by sperm doner, that joy?
B) Hes thinking of himself and the impact on him and his will potentially, not you and your happiness.

You are right. He wants a housekeeper. Not a wife/partner.

Get your ducks in a row. Go back to your homeland if you like it and make a solo life for yourself. Don’t worry about Wgat gets said about your reason for dumping him, Youll not see those people again anyway so who cares Wgat reason or what’s said.

We all deserve to be happy. Including you. Go for it OP!

pikkumyy77 · 21/09/2025 12:24

espania · 19/09/2025 23:20

I asked him if (considering the current situation) would he mind if I looked into sperm donor option? He said he minds and it set him off. I told him my plans have not changed, I still could become a mother through different routes and I am open to explore. I asked him many times about looking into options but he did not. I asked him whether he realises that if we live in two countries I am likely to meet someone and I could see in his face he has not thought this through. I am surprised he does not think I will have social life and may not be availbale as his weekend companion. My other question was about those flying visits - obviously if he comes to me he stays at my place but when I come to UK this would mean me coming to his marital home and reliving the space and atmosphere of the past. Again silence. I find it all very odd. Not thought through.

Oh its “thought through.” He thought “she will move to a holiday location and when I want a free holiday with a gf catering to me I will go. And if she comes back to the UK she will pay for herself snd not bother me.”

You are still being very indirect with him? You don’t seem to grasp that this is not a negotiation or a threat, that you are making with him over how to progress your relationship. The relationship is dead: sexually, financially, emotionally (on his oart.).

Make up your mind and leave. Tell him its over. Start over. Whether you meet someone who wants a child eith you or you decide to go ahead and have a child first snd then look for a husband is up to you. But this man is never going to give you what you want.

Bittenonce · 21/09/2025 12:42

You’re getting nothing out of this. And you won’t get anything more in the future either, I’m afraid. You can’t trust him to do anything he says. Relationships are about giving, compromise - but he’s giving nothing and has compromised nothing. I was a long time in a relationship with a woman where the age gap was greater than yours, so I’m the last person to say that has anything to do with it - i genuinely think it hasn’t. It’s about him being one of life’s takers, you being one of life’s givers. So now you’ve got half of your life still ahead of you, it’s time to put yourself first: He won’t.

Crikeyalmighty · 21/09/2025 20:05

@espania I think you summed it up very well - I just don’t think you are on the same page anymore- quite rightly you want a rounded life and partnership - he I think wants exactly as you said -

TakeMe2Insanity · 21/09/2025 20:14

You deserve so much more and so much better than him.

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