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Help me give my head a wobble - ExH and his DW(the OW) are divorcing and it's thrown me for six

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UnexpectedTears · 25/08/2025 12:03

ExH and I were married for 25yrs, he left me, out of the blue, for the much younger thinner OW he met at work. They now have one DC, married about 12yrs now I think. We managed to re-establish a good co-parenting relationship and are friendly enough to be at the same family events, weddings etc. I worked fucking hard to make that happen and never bad mouthed either of them to the DC (who were teens) even though their Stepmother was not the most welcoming of people to them.

I just heard the other day that they have separated and are getting divorced, I knew the relationship was volatile - I assumed that's what he wanted rather than stable, boring, old me. Maybe not.

I didn't do the "pick me" dance, I have more self respect than to want to be with someone who doesn't want to be with me, so I went into practical mode re. divorce, division of assets etc. Kept things as stable as I could for the DC.

What's shocked me is how upset I am about hearing about his divorce, I keep bursting into tears FFS, and I'm not a crier. I thought I'd moved on, I had my career (which I loved), DC now launched into the world of work, happy retirement, friends, hobbies, a good life, not at all interested in finding another relationship.

It's like I'm back there again - when he told me he wanted a divorce - emotions all over the place - I wish I could just be angry with him for throwing our family life away for something that didn't last, maybe that's part of it, but right now I'm just back in the middle of the grief - and I hate it.

OP posts:
UnexpectedTears · 25/08/2025 17:10

Iloveyoubut · 25/08/2025 17:04

OP I’m sorry. I really am. Genuinely. I explained up thread why I was triggered and it’s not an excuse and I genuinely apologise and I really mean that. One thing I do know from experience it that it’s very hard to foster a good relationship with an ex’s new partner and existing and new children. It is bloody hard and I can imagine it felt like you were doing that on your own at times and I totally get that it feels like working so hard to foster all those relationships at a time when you were feeling horrific was not fucking easy. Again. I’m sorry. Genuinely.

Thanks for the apology, it's appreciated

OP posts:
Lighteningstrikes · 25/08/2025 17:11

PistachioTiramisuLimoncello · 25/08/2025 15:55

But it wasn’t “all for nothing” they were together 12 years and had a child.

Do your kids get on with their step sibling op?

Some people are shit at being married.
Some longer marriages come to an end.
It’s obviously sad at the time but people can and do feel happier after break ups.

OP it does sound like you repressed your emotions at the time of your divorce, which was perfectly understandable. Maybe just sitting with your feelings this time will help you move on? Maybe have a bit of counselling for yourself if you can’t seem to process things, until they feel resolved.

You are allowed to feel how you feel.

The point is that ultimately it ended.

fivefoottwowitheyesofblue · 25/08/2025 17:19

FuzzyWolf · 25/08/2025 13:53

I don’t think your head needs a wobble. I think what you are feeling is very justified and understandable. I’d just quietly give yourself some time to let the emotions come out and settle back down.

Sometimes the grass isn’t greener and younger or thinner isn’t better.

This.

Be kind to yourself OP.

Iloveyoubut · 25/08/2025 17:22

UnexpectedTears · 25/08/2025 17:10

Thanks for the apology, it's appreciated

Thanks for accepting. I’m really sorry. X

YetYeti · 25/08/2025 18:00

Iloveyoubut · 25/08/2025 16:47

What are you talking about? I’m sitting here typing on my phone! With no glasses on btw so I can hardly even see! Seriously, what are you even going on about? I do feel bad about being snarky. I just felt really shit for the women who did do the pick-me dance. Becuse the whole thing is just shite. Being cheated on and being fucked about and having to start over and smile at the fucker when you have kids …. I’ll be honest … one of the reasons I got snarky is because I remember reading a post from a woman who was 67 and her us and had cheated on her yet again and honestly… I was gutted for her and gutted that she got such a hard time for being scared to be alone and for trying to find a way to just turn a blind eye. It was horrible. I still think of that woman… the post is probably still on here somewhere and I hate that anyone would feel bad about themselves reading that and knowing they did the pick-‘me dance. Did it stop me from. Sing as nice to OP as I could have and should have been, yea it did. And I’m sorry for that.

Edited

Actually, reading this, I think I know where the misunderstanding is coming from. When we talk here about women doing the pick me dance the last thing we’re doing is looking down on them, we’re feeling compassion and saying to them that you don’t need to do that because it’s his fault and not yours - and it won’t help. It’s not judging women that do it, it’s a judgment on the men that have put them in that position. With hindsight, yes, it’s probably better not to do it, and so that’s why people give that advice here.

Iloveyoubut · 25/08/2025 18:06

YetYeti · 25/08/2025 18:00

Actually, reading this, I think I know where the misunderstanding is coming from. When we talk here about women doing the pick me dance the last thing we’re doing is looking down on them, we’re feeling compassion and saying to them that you don’t need to do that because it’s his fault and not yours - and it won’t help. It’s not judging women that do it, it’s a judgment on the men that have put them in that position. With hindsight, yes, it’s probably better not to do it, and so that’s why people give that advice here.

Edited

I apologised to OP and I’m genuinly sorry for coming across unsympathetic, it was wrong. I really appreciate your post. That’s exactly what happened here.

Bathingforest · 25/08/2025 18:19

Your feelings are normal. He was your closest relative for whole 25 years and left just like this, for someone he is happy to discharge now or she might be fed up with old boring man. But he didn't die, he is alive. I think just fund way to go down to the bottom of it, take some time and cry it off ....healing isn't going to happen if you still believe this man was your man

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 25/08/2025 18:23

Iloveyoubut · 25/08/2025 14:38

It’s lasted 12 years, not 3 months. I think the ‘I have more self respect’ than to do the ‘pick me dance’ comment was unnecessary.

edited because the thread moved on faster than me

ChangingWeight · 25/08/2025 18:24

I wish I could just be angry with him for throwing our family life away for something that didn't last, maybe that's part of it, but right now I'm just back in the middle of the grief - and I hate it.

i think you’re being unreasonable here.

he didn’t end things with you for her, he ended things with you because he wasn’t happy.

Regardless of the outcome of their affair, he wasn’t happy with you. Your relationship was over anyway.

Iloveyoubut · 25/08/2025 18:33

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 25/08/2025 18:23

edited because the thread moved on faster than me

Edited

Thank you x

YetYeti · 25/08/2025 19:02

Iloveyoubut · 25/08/2025 18:06

I apologised to OP and I’m genuinly sorry for coming across unsympathetic, it was wrong. I really appreciate your post. That’s exactly what happened here.

I’m glad we worked it out - I do totally get how it’s possible to come at these things from different angles, particularly when it’s about something that’s often been quite a shitty thing to go through! Flowers

YetYeti · 25/08/2025 19:03

ChangingWeight · 25/08/2025 18:24

I wish I could just be angry with him for throwing our family life away for something that didn't last, maybe that's part of it, but right now I'm just back in the middle of the grief - and I hate it.

i think you’re being unreasonable here.

he didn’t end things with you for her, he ended things with you because he wasn’t happy.

Regardless of the outcome of their affair, he wasn’t happy with you. Your relationship was over anyway.

Ouch. Actually I’m not sure that’s always the case and regardless didn’t need to be said here.

Ratisshortforratthew · 25/08/2025 19:10

Iloveyoubut · 25/08/2025 15:22

It’s unnecessary to imply that you were superior to women who did the ‘pick me dance. And no I’ve never been a cheater or another woman or cheated on to my knowledge But there’s no need to imply that anyone who did try and hang on to someone had less self esteem. Sorry but I think that’s an absolutely fair comment on my part.

No, you’re being a dick. OP sounds like she handled the break up maturely, sensibly and with dignity. I’ve been the person doing the pick-me dance to someone who made it crystal clear they didn’t want me and in my informed opinion it is always futile and always a loss of dignity.

Ratisshortforratthew · 25/08/2025 19:14

Thebigonesgetaway · 25/08/2025 16:50

I agree with you and am surprised at the whole he did it for nothing rhetoric. This relationship lasted a long time, and they have a child. And as sad as it is, he clearly did not wish to remain in the marriage with the op. The fact his second marriage didn’t work out doesn’t change that.

I also agree with this. 12 years is not nothing.

Mamamia35 · 25/08/2025 19:16

It sounds like you did a marvellous job of putting everybody else first - your children, him and the other woman - so that everyone had a harmonious life. It’s amazing what we do for our children and I often wonder if it’s actually a healthy way to be, because of the stress it induces.

Underneath it all we are only human and I’m guessing that you buried your grief and disappointment and anger. This guy still looms large in your life, 15 years on. It’s utterly shit that he’s still taking up space in your brain, but 25 years is a large proportion of your life. Be sad. It’s brought back memories. I think it may help to talk to a therapist. Flowers

Iloveyoubut · 25/08/2025 19:20

Ratisshortforratthew · 25/08/2025 19:10

No, you’re being a dick. OP sounds like she handled the break up maturely, sensibly and with dignity. I’ve been the person doing the pick-me dance to someone who made it crystal clear they didn’t want me and in my informed opinion it is always futile and always a loss of dignity.

I’ve apologised about 5 times wholeheartedly. I cannot do any more than that. I can go and spend 6 months in community service on here looking at ‘what is this rash?” pictures and picking out baby names .. other than that there really is nothing more I can say or so.

Gettingbysomehow · 25/08/2025 19:41

Id be outside their house laughing and clapping. But then I have no time for cheaters.

TheFormidableMrsC · 25/08/2025 19:49

thepariscrimefiles · 25/08/2025 13:57

You're a much nicer person than me. I'd be gloating. But I'm very immature and hold grudges. Your way is probably better.

Same.

cloudtreecarpet · 25/08/2025 21:13

ChangingWeight · 25/08/2025 18:24

I wish I could just be angry with him for throwing our family life away for something that didn't last, maybe that's part of it, but right now I'm just back in the middle of the grief - and I hate it.

i think you’re being unreasonable here.

he didn’t end things with you for her, he ended things with you because he wasn’t happy.

Regardless of the outcome of their affair, he wasn’t happy with you. Your relationship was over anyway.

Honestly, is this post necessary?

He cheated on the OP and on her children. He didn't sit her down and have an adult conversation about being unhappy & explain that he needed to leave - instead he went behind her back & started seeing another woman.

The OP was entitled to be angry then and is still entitled to be angry now. Not because he "didn't want her" as you say but because he betrayed her trust in a horrible, cowardly way.

TheignT · 25/08/2025 21:25

Not the same I know but I've known several divorced people, sometimes people who really hated their ex, who broke down when he died. They were always confused about how it upset them but I always felt they went back to the time they loved him and that's who they lost not the man who left them. So for you being thrown back to the break up seems similar to me, it sort of disrupts the time line.

Give it time, like those other women I think you will soon feel better. Good luck with healing.

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