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Can you give me some advice on what is fair in this relationship? Or what’s normal?

64 replies

DaisyDaisyDaisy3 · 23/08/2025 11:53

we met 5 months ago. He moved in with his mum after a separation. He doesn’t pay his mum rent, he buys his own food (apparently she told him to save). He doesn’t drive.
I have a mortgage and I have 3 daughters, 2 at home (17 and 20). He doesn’t have children.
I drive if we are going anywhere and we take it in turns to buy a drink or food (which isn’t very often as I can’t afford it). He stays at mine approx twice a week (he gets the bus here). I was doing the cooking (unless we were eating out but I have had to say I can’t afford this anymore) and cleaning up. I mentioned this and he’s better now and will help.
He was looking to rent and pay appropriately 900 a month without bills. He has an elderly dog so the dog is staying with his mum so he will still stay at his mums occasionally. Therefore, he won’t be at his place often. I came up with the idea of him contributing towards staying at mine instead. It helps me and helps him (a lot). I thought it would make sense as he’s staying at my house anyway, so it would be a couple of nights a week and he’d stay at his mums too with his dog! Whilst looking for a rental that accepts animals (however, his gig toilets in the house so he’s reluctant to rent).
He transferred 250. Then 5 days later, he was questioning why I couldn’t afford to pay for EPC on my house (I’m selling to downsize). I told him, I can’t justify paying 180 this month as I had a lot to pay out (daughters driving and birthdays). He said to use the 250 he gave me. I said, no, it’s ok, the EPC can wait (I’m in no hurry). He then questioned where his 250 is going and he’d like to know for the future what I’m spending the 250 on and am i going to get things in for him, like bread?! (I think this remark was because the first night he stayed following paying the 250, I had no bread. Me and my girls don’t eat bread so I just didn’t think).
I was so angry, I have been buying extra food for months when he stays, he sowers here, stays the night. I sent the 250 back and told him to go and rent somewhere and he would know exactly where the 250 goes. He couldn’t understand why I was angry. I told him it doesn’t cost nothing to stay at someone’s house.
Anyway, he still hasn’t found anywhere to rent and he’s staying at mine again. He now brings the odd thing, coffee, wine, some cereal bars, he had shower wash, some meatballs and pasta sauce yesterday with him.
I now can’t help feeling resentful!
He stayed last night, now again tonight. He said he will need to eat later and said he will give me some money. Or he will go to the pub and get himself a meal. It just feels so awkward now. He said yesterday, do I have a shower at the gym as before, you have invited me to have a shower.
I don’t know how to handle it!
I don’t know what’s fair when one person has a home and the other one doesn’t?

OP posts:
AcquadiP · 23/08/2025 14:35

Bin him, he wants to stay at yours for free and for you to pay for everything.

Also, his elderly dog toilets in the house? Has his dog always done this? If so, your partner is a lazy arse who hasn't bothered to toilet train his dog, which is disgusting. If it's a recent behaviour, then the poor dog almost certainly has kidney failure and needs to see a vet ASAP. Neither of these two scenarios paint him in a good light either.

DaisyDaisyDaisy3 · 23/08/2025 14:38

He’s definitely not moving in!
He suggested 250 and that to include food and if he has washing and if I’m driving him to work on the same shifts!
Im buying extra foods because he eats a lot. He’s showering, and using electricity and gas! I never expected anything but at least when we are out, the occasional meal? I have driven and paid for drinks! I drive everywhere, he doesn’t consider that cost. I was hoping he would and somehow make things fair? I have been counting pennies to pay day and told him and he still doesn’t get it!
I have told him I can’t afford to go out anymore!
He has been to the vets. I’m not sure if the dog has always done this.

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backandforthup · 23/08/2025 14:43

This isn’t normal. No way. What a cheek he has. Not a prince, I’d kick this one to the kerb. A user.

PrincessofWells · 23/08/2025 14:46

It shouldn't be this difficult - it's supposed to be the honeymoon period.

dollyblue01 · 23/08/2025 14:48

Even if he took you out for food or did a weekly shop he should be offering something at least, he’s been cheeky that’s what he is , seeing what he can get away with. You need to have a chat and set some rules now before it goes any further.

MounjaroMounjaro · 23/08/2025 14:50

What a loser this man is. He's living off his mum and now wants to sponge off you. I'd like to see him ask a landlord what he's spending his money on!

TwistedWonder · 23/08/2025 14:52

He stays at yours, you drive him everywhere, he knows you’re struggling for money and gf still doesn’t treat you to dinner, proper dates and expects you to pay for drinks? Seriously he’s as tight as a gnats arse! Why are you tolerating this freeloader?

ItsAWonderfulLifeforMe · 23/08/2025 15:00

Right, so how much roughly is he bringing home a month? 2k / 3k? And his bills are…his own food. And the bus. That’s it. And a dog. Where’s the rest of the money going every month / where has it gone?

Ditch him, move on. You are a strong, capable woman and mother and don’t need to be dragged down by tight, miserly baggage. Onwards and upwards!!!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 23/08/2025 15:08

What relationship example are you showing your children if you are tolerating this?. It just shows how pathetically low both your boundaries and bar for a relationship is. Surely you deserve better than this free loader.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 23/08/2025 15:10

What do your daughters make of him?.
They must think you have taken leave of your senses .

WhattheFudgeareyouonabout · 23/08/2025 16:04

Oh my God 🤦🏻‍♀️

GreenAndWhiteStripes · 23/08/2025 16:07

So when he asked what the £250 was going towards, did you explain that it was for food and electricity when he's staying at yours? He must realise these things aren't free?

mondaytosunday · 23/08/2025 16:09

Thus is his you handle it: this isn’t working for me so we are over.
He’s totally taking advantage and asking where ‘his’ £250 was going is controlling. He sounds like the usual man child. You can do better.

CoffeeBeansGalore · 23/08/2025 16:15

The fact that he doesn't even see the cost of things shouts selfish. You had to tell him that showering and eating at yours costs you money.
He expects you to transport him. He doesn't offer petrol money or pay for dinner.

Why does this prince of men not have women beating down his door? 🙄

Jools67 · 23/08/2025 16:38

Oh God get rid of him he's a loser

BellissimoGecko · 23/08/2025 17:32

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 23/08/2025 11:57

Why on earth are you letting a bloke move in with you after 5 months, especially when you've got a teenage daughter in the house.

You barely know this man. Quite aside from the money issue, you're completely insane to allow this.

First post nails it.

insanity.

DaisyDaisyDaisy3 · 23/08/2025 17:37

I did explain to him! He said he made a mistake by asking me. He has stayed a handful of times since. He has got a couple of bits like wine, coffee. Then my daughter wanted a McDonald’s so I ended up getting his! It’s like he thinks he’s helping then that happens. We went to the cinema, I drove, paid (my daughter came with us) and I let him buy her a burger. We go for food, he got the drinks, then I went and got the food (I drove). I know all probably sounds petty but it just feel right!
I feel overwhelmed by it as I know it doesn’t feel right. I’m a nurse and the other nurses ask ‘is he treating you, he’s always at yours’. My mum thinks he should be treating me all the time.
He takes home about 2400. I bring home 2100.
My girls don’t see a lot of it going on. My youngest tells me, we should be doing more together. I don’t suggest anything as I can’t afford it. She tells me ‘mum you deserve to be spoiled’! If he had his own place, I’d go there. It might feel more equal then!

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BuckChuckets · 23/08/2025 17:46

Listen to your daughter when she says you deserve to be spoiled, and end the relationship with this loser.

TwistedWonder · 23/08/2025 17:48

So you can’t afford to do things with your daughters because of this leech? Why are you prioritising him over your own DD? And you’re still talking like you want to continue dating him and keep letting him sponge off of you and your daughters?

Come on wake up ffs

chatgptsbestmate · 23/08/2025 17:51

Dear God. Why? Just fucking WHY? 🙄🥺😳

DaisyDaisyDaisy3 · 23/08/2025 17:52

I can’t afford to do anything with him!

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DaisyChain505 · 23/08/2025 17:54

Gross. He’s showing you who he is, believe him.

chatgptsbestmate · 23/08/2025 17:55

DaisyDaisyDaisy3 · 23/08/2025 17:52

I can’t afford to do anything with him!

Get rid of him. He's a waste of space
I cannot understand why you can't see that he's just yuk

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 23/08/2025 17:57

I stayed with my sister for a few months and I just gave her a lump sum every month, can't remember how much but likely about £600 and I did lots of the cleaning.

I think you need to let this one go, hes an idiot.

CATomas · 23/08/2025 17:58

He's looking for a 2nd mother and that is you. Go and go fast.