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Husbands friendship with a woman

50 replies

Redveranda · 17/08/2025 19:01

Background is married for 14 and together nearly 20 years.

When we first got together, mad for one another and then whilst meeting a wider circle of friends, met the girl…

You know the one that instantly has to make sure you KNOW they have a special relationship/friendship.Girl that lived on same side of the road and shared childhood kind of friendship.

Made no effort to be my friend and after waving a red flag (in my view), that wouldn’t have been welcomed anyway. She did subsequently apologise some years later which is of course gracious, but I don’t like her and feel she doesn’t like me.

I made it clear at the time to my then boyfriend that I just don’t like her. I confided in someone within our wider friendship group and she then told her partner who then started saying I was jealous. Which, of course I was.

The point being I suppose, I shouldn’t be jealous or threatened by anyone in a relationship that’s strong and so it seemed he’d completely taken that onboard until the last few years.

A group friend holiday was suggested. I said I wasn’t fussed for going. Then was told that she was going. So no permission asked for and I’ve swallowed it down and really tried hard not to act like a jealous, irrational person as I know feel secure in the fact that he wouldn’t cheat.

She has a family and a partner who my husband seems to really like and admire.

After returning from the last trip he made some comments about her appearance that weren’t flattering. Which I think was a clumsy attempt to assure me that there was no possible attraction there.

I’ve spent every single one of these years feeling periodically anxious and a vague sense of dread and invited friends to come
and stay to distract me from spiralling.

This year, I’m sitting with it a bit more and just realised I think that he’s happy with my discomfort over him feeling any of his own about this. He didn’t ask for permission so it’s forgiveness and I just cannot see, that if the roles were reversed that he wouldn’t be cross with me, or more that I wouldn’t expose him to that on a yearly basis.

its not that I think he’ll cheat, it’s that they have this weird shared emotional thing that I’ve been exposed to and now somehow my DC are going on holiday with her there.

I feel like I’m living in a twilight zone. All the other WAGS obviously haven’t had this experience with her and their partners so it’s fine for them.

Clearly I haven’t been great at communications my boundaries about this as I’m really angry about it, exacerbated by I think a few other things happening within the dynamics of our relationship.

I know I am feeling jealous. I just don’t feel it’s fair or appropriate given how I feel about this particular person for him to insist almost on going and participating despite knowing how sensitive I may feel about it.

I need to raise this but I can’t find the words and would like some advice please oh wise ones.

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RealEagle · 17/08/2025 19:25

Why don’t you go aswell ,How many people go on these group trips?

savethatkitty · 17/08/2025 19:29

I would absolutely be going.

Redveranda · 17/08/2025 19:30

I have really considered this. I think I’d just feel too uncomfortable to be honest.

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Redveranda · 17/08/2025 19:32

I know what you mean. But, I don’t want him to not have the holiday or time with his blokes mates as it actually really lovely to see my DC have those relationships with them, it’s just her going.

It bothers me because it’s just him that has that weird red flag with her and you can bet that if ANY of the WAGS had been and had the same…they would feel the same way.

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Redveranda · 17/08/2025 19:34

RealEagle · 17/08/2025 19:25

Why don’t you go aswell ,How many people go on these group trips?

There’s maybe like 12 plus kids.

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RealEagle · 17/08/2025 19:42

What is the actual problem ,he is taking the kids with him.

pizzaHeart · 17/08/2025 19:44

I would go. What’s exactly the problem?

Redveranda · 17/08/2025 19:52

Imagine a woman who makes it really clear she could have your man. Then you see your man being flattered by that I suppose.

You talk to him about it and hope thats put an end to it, you decide to marry and build a life together and the one person that has ever made you doubt your relationship or been a cause for pause is now part of the wider friendship circle.

I feel idiotic and childish as it is without being asked what actually is the problem is.

My feelings about this particular woman are the problem and my husbands deliberate determined ignoring of this.
and whilst I don’t think cheating is likely, I didn’t bang my head or imagine it either.

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Theoldbird · 17/08/2025 19:56

I wouldn't like this either and I would start going with them. aren't there any other partners of the men going with the group?

Redveranda · 17/08/2025 20:00

Theoldbird · 17/08/2025 19:56

I wouldn't like this either and I would start going with them. aren't there any other partners of the men going with the group?

Thank you for your response.

Yes there are, it feels awkward as they now all have a friendship with her so now I’m a bit of an outsider anyway!

He does encourage me to come but I honestly just feel sick about going and seeing my kids with her would honestly I think tip me
over the edge.

irs not as though I didn’t have my own share of blokes twinkling at me in my time, the difference is the ones that were a problem for him, I don’t have any contact with.

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Theoldbird · 17/08/2025 20:08

How is your husband around this woman? does he encourage this behaviour?

I think I would go this year with the intention of just enjoying time with your husband and dc... not necessarily to observe this woman or monitor her behaviour. You could end up maki g friends with the other women there. Go with an open mind. You might enjoy it.

Ohlifelife · 17/08/2025 20:09

I know my comprehension skills arent the best sometimes but are you saying your partner and your children go on holiday with this other woman and other people but you stay at home?
If this is the case just why?
I don't understand a relationship where this would happen. Surely if you are in a relationship and have children together you go on holiday together? It sounds like this is a non monogamous relationship to me.

magiciansgirlonce · 17/08/2025 20:09

I really would not take a chance. Know I sound as if I don't trust certain women when they are near men, who lets face it can be a bit weak, but I don't! Go too! Better be sure than sorry.

RealEagle · 17/08/2025 20:12

Is this based on what happened 20years ago,or has something more recent happened.

wizzywig · 17/08/2025 20:12

Must be great being him. 2 women who are into him. No wonder he isnt in a hurry to end that friendship. Big ego hit for him. He's winning either way whether you come along to the holiday or not

Redveranda · 17/08/2025 20:14

Theoldbird · 17/08/2025 20:08

How is your husband around this woman? does he encourage this behaviour?

I think I would go this year with the intention of just enjoying time with your husband and dc... not necessarily to observe this woman or monitor her behaviour. You could end up maki g friends with the other women there. Go with an open mind. You might enjoy it.

I wouldn’t know as I don’t see it or her.

Yes I could do that you are right, I just don’t think I am made that way.

I am angry because I feel like a boundary has been crossed. A boundary that if he was the one experiencing it would be very uncomfortable for me as his wife to continue a friendship like that.

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magiciansgirlonce · 17/08/2025 20:14

I would go. I know that I sound as if I don't trust certain women near men who lets face it can be weak, but I don't! Better to be safe rather than sorry! Go!

Redveranda · 17/08/2025 20:15

wizzywig · 17/08/2025 20:12

Must be great being him. 2 women who are into him. No wonder he isnt in a hurry to end that friendship. Big ego hit for him. He's winning either way whether you come along to the holiday or not

I’m not saying she’s into him now.

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Mrsttcno1 · 17/08/2025 20:15

I think realistically if she wanted him she’d have had him by now, 20 years later, so it’s probably time to let this go

Elektra1 · 17/08/2025 20:16

If he wanted to be with her, wouldn’t he have done so before you married, if he wanted to, given their long acquaintance? I think you might by tying yourself up in knots borne out of insecurity/low self-esteem (which I understand as I have done that too in relationships).

Redveranda · 17/08/2025 20:17

RealEagle · 17/08/2025 20:12

Is this based on what happened 20years ago,or has something more recent happened.

It’s the issue in the past tbh. It just felt like a massive red flag.

I know I should be all zen and mature about it but I’m just not. I am a proper grown up honestly.

I know that he knows I’m uncomfortable with it.

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magiciansgirlonce · 17/08/2025 20:19

Ohlifelife · 17/08/2025 20:09

I know my comprehension skills arent the best sometimes but are you saying your partner and your children go on holiday with this other woman and other people but you stay at home?
If this is the case just why?
I don't understand a relationship where this would happen. Surely if you are in a relationship and have children together you go on holiday together? It sounds like this is a non monogamous relationship to me.

Neither do I. It sounds that maybe he is not how you think or are you too trusting?! I would go. It sounds as if I don't trust certain women around men , who lets face it can be weak, but I don't! Better to be safe rather than sorry ! Go !

magiciansgirlonce · 17/08/2025 20:21

Your not kidding! Having his cake and eating it, it used to be called! Seems earlier post and Go !

magiciansgirlonce · 17/08/2025 20:22

Your not feeling jealous for no reason. Stop trying to be so reasonable and Go ! xxx

Betsy95 · 17/08/2025 20:29

I think this really depends on the dynamics of the relationship and how secure your partner makes you feel in it. I was in a relationship with someone who had a close female friend and never had any issue with him socialising with her because the dynamics of our relationship were strong, respectful, open and transparent.

However I have been in subsequent relationships where this type of thing would have been an issue because my then partners had poor boundaries and lack of transparency.

It sounds like you don’t feel comfortable at all so imo your partner should be either aiming to ensure you are okay or just shouldn’t go.

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