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OH debt -what do I do

107 replies

AzureFish · 09/08/2025 12:17

Just after some advice on what to do, sorry about the long post!

Beginning of the year I found out that my OH had accumulated a large amount of money on a credit card (I opened one of three letters thinking it was something important for a house sale that we needed that day, he did know about it)

I spoke to him about it, he lied and said it was fraud, then said you're not buying it are you to which I said no. He then said it was money used to cover bills due to a short fall in his wages. That gut feeling just told me it wasn't right. I begged him to tell me what was going on and I got nowhere. Obviously since then the trust had been knocked and I have been wary, I noticed when he would get letters he would put them in his work bag. He said this was the only debt and he was sorting it.

About a month ago letters came and he opened it at home and then put it at the bottom of the bin. I know probably shouldn't have but it was just that niggling feeling, so I looked at the letter in the bin, a money demand letter for a loan.

Again, i questioned him about it and he said the same as before. Things had been pretty rocky since I found out about the first debt but this just made things a lot worse. He assured me this was it, there were no others and he had it under control with a debt management company.

Yesterday, a letter came and I recognised the sender address which is a loans company, I left it a few hours but couldn't stop thinking about it, I absolutely know I shouldn't have and it's an invasion of privacy etc but it was that guy feeling that something was off so I opened it, yet another loan company demanding money.

In total the debt is at 50k that I know about built up over two years.

We have three young children, and I'm absolutely terrified. I haven't a clue what's going on, he claims he doesn't know where the money has gone, he doesn't know what he's spent it on. I know he has a collection of designer coats and clothes etc. I just don't know what to do, I feel like I've been living in survival mode for so long, the trust has completely gone, financially I don't think I'm affected as we're not married but this has just completely ruined this relationship. I have asked him to show me that it's under control with a debt management plant but he said there's nothing to show, he's deleted the emails, I said surely you have an online account or something, he said no. I asked him if we could look through bank statements to see where the money went, he said there isn't any.

I feel like I just want to leave, pack up and go but I don't want to throw 14 years away. I'm so scared my children will hate me for leaving and breaking up the family like he says I will do, but I just physically and mentally can't carry on, Im so tired of masking and pretending everything and myself is okay when it's not. I feel so torn and so guilty on him if I do leave, I feel I'm leaving him sinking. I have no clue how I would leave, the only saving I had he's plowed into a house extension, and I'm in university so my income is from student finance.

I just don't know what to do I feel so stuck and trapped in this nightmare, my trust for him has completely gone. Am I bad for wanting to leave. What do I do.

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tooloololoo · 09/08/2025 12:19

You leave

can you live like this?
the children will sense the hostility

PaperMachePanda · 09/08/2025 12:22

He has wracked up 50k in 2 years and won't tell you what he's spending it on (a few designer coats don't add up to 50k!).

Leave!

Leave before he ruins you too. I had an ex and I only found out how much debt he had when he tried to sell my house!

PaperMachePanda · 09/08/2025 12:23

Also are you sure he's not cheating and buying shit for his fancy woman?

PaperMachePanda · 09/08/2025 12:23

Or is it gambling?

Cinnabonswirl · 09/08/2025 12:24

So he’s spent loads of money, is too stupid or dishonest to know/tell you on what, hid it from you and then threatens you that it’s your fault if there are consequences to the family unit. I would have no patience for this. It’s one thing if he gets into a mess, tells you, and figures out how he can start fixing it, but that’s not where you are is it

AzureFish · 09/08/2025 12:27

PaperMachePanda · 09/08/2025 12:23

Also are you sure he's not cheating and buying shit for his fancy woman?

He's said it's not another woman, it's not gambling, he's just spent it "on shit" his words 🤷🏼‍♀️ he said he wished he could say it was gambling, and give me an answer as to where it's gone, but he doesn't know

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AzureFish · 09/08/2025 12:29

Cinnabonswirl · 09/08/2025 12:24

So he’s spent loads of money, is too stupid or dishonest to know/tell you on what, hid it from you and then threatens you that it’s your fault if there are consequences to the family unit. I would have no patience for this. It’s one thing if he gets into a mess, tells you, and figures out how he can start fixing it, but that’s not where you are is it

Unfortunately not, the frustrating part is I can see how toxic this situation is but I feel I have no way out.

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YodasHairyButt · 09/08/2025 12:29

If he doesn’t know where it’s all gone, he clearly isn’t capable of managing money and it’s just going to get worse. You leave before he drags you down with him. I’m sure he knows exactly where it’s all gone, but he’s a liar isn’t he?

TheFlis · 09/08/2025 12:31

He doesn’t know where £50k has gone? Really? Perhaps his bank and credit card statements can shed some light. If he has nothing to hide he will be very happy to show them all to you.

AzureFish · 09/08/2025 12:36

TheFlis · 09/08/2025 12:31

He doesn’t know where £50k has gone? Really? Perhaps his bank and credit card statements can shed some light. If he has nothing to hide he will be very happy to show them all to you.

I've tried, I've asked and asked and he's refusing to show me. He said that he had to close the accounts as part of the deal with the debt management company, so there are no statements to show, and he's deleted all emails as he's ashamed, which I don't think is the case I think he's deleted them Incase I ended up seeing them

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TheSandgroper · 09/08/2025 12:37

ASAP, and someone will explain to you what I mean, change your mortgage (if you have one) from one where you both own 100% to one where you own 50% each. Therefore his debt comes out of his half but you keep your half.

As quickly as you can move out or get him out and get yourself separated. Don’t fret about being fair. If you have a joint account, transfer it to your account now and if you direct debit into that joint account, stop it or stop your wages.

You fight for you, your credit rating and you fight for your children.

StrawberryCranberry · 09/08/2025 12:42

It's not just the debt OP (although that is bad enough), it's the lying and deceit on multiple occasions that would be the absolute deal breaker for me.

You can't be with someone who lies to you over and over again.

Sorry but you have to leave.

dobbydotdot · 09/08/2025 12:43

He's lying, lying though his teeth to you, I'm afraid. If he was willing to be completely open with you, you could ask him to run his credit report with someone like credit karma or equifax and show it to you, that will give you as good a picture of things as anything might. You might want to run your own at the same time to check he's not taken anything out in your name or joint names. Whether he is willing to do that with you or not will give you a good idea of how honest he is being with you.

But whats worrying is he's being avoidant and sneaky and not telling you the full truth, and that's as big a problem as the money situation itself.

Do you have independent income, what's your housing situation like? You say OH, does that mean you aren't married? In this case that might be a good thing, if the debt is all in his name, no marital ties makes it easier to disentangle from him.

BabyCatFace · 09/08/2025 12:45

The relationship is over, there's no two ways about it. You can't possibly carry on with him lying and being so financially irresponsible. Can you afford to buy him out of the mortgage?

AzureFish · 09/08/2025 12:48

dobbydotdot · 09/08/2025 12:43

He's lying, lying though his teeth to you, I'm afraid. If he was willing to be completely open with you, you could ask him to run his credit report with someone like credit karma or equifax and show it to you, that will give you as good a picture of things as anything might. You might want to run your own at the same time to check he's not taken anything out in your name or joint names. Whether he is willing to do that with you or not will give you a good idea of how honest he is being with you.

But whats worrying is he's being avoidant and sneaky and not telling you the full truth, and that's as big a problem as the money situation itself.

Do you have independent income, what's your housing situation like? You say OH, does that mean you aren't married? In this case that might be a good thing, if the debt is all in his name, no marital ties makes it easier to disentangle from him.

I'm in university, starting my second year next month. I have my income from student finance, this is where I feel stuck in trying to leave, I have no idea how I will do it as a student.

we have a Joint mortgage but not married. I checked my credit file this morning and all okay.
I've asked him to show my his, he won't, he just wants me to forget about it all and move on from it

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taxguru · 09/08/2025 12:48

It's not so much the debt, but the lack of honesty and respect now that you've found out about it. Debt is manageable in one way or another, but dishonesty and disrespect in a relationship has to be a deal breaker. If it were me, I'd be separating asap or give him a final ultimatum to come completely clean and engage with you on an action plan, but if he does that, make it crystal clear that it's last chance saloon and if he doesn't comply with the action plan or starts lying to you again, then it's definitely separation time.

dobbydotdot · 09/08/2025 12:54

If you're in university you might have access to student support services through them. It may be helpful to have a chat with them and see if they can help you to figure out what your options are. Additionally have a look on entitledto.com and see what help you might be able to get. Depending on your course you might be able to switch to part time and pick up some work to support yourself, or transition to an online course.

If he's not prepared to show you his credit file its very likely he's not telling you the whole story. Im not sure how you continue to live with someone like that.

autienotnaughty · 09/08/2025 12:55

It’s more likely he has always had debt than he has just been on a spending spree for the past two years.
the reality is you can’t trust him anymore, even when confronted he has repeatedly lied to you. He’s shown no remorse or desire to resolve this.

Your options are -
leave him and start again without his lies and debt hanging over you.
stay, demand everything- bank statements, receipts, letters. Go through his phone all paper work. Open all letters. Write everything down, make a plan to pay it off. His wages go in to your account and you pay everything. He gets an allowance to cover his minor expenses . He has one basic current account card that you have access to, no credit cards no access to his id to take out debt .
if he agrees to that and is remorseful, willing to be open possibly access counselling. Then you could consider staying with him. But you will never fully know if he isn’t screwing university again.

titchy · 09/08/2025 12:58

You can do a credit search on him yourself. I suspect he owes more than £50k. However I’m also surprised he’s managed to get a mortgage - or did you get the mortgage a while ago?

Are you named on the deeds as an owner? If so joint, or in-common? If joint sever the tenancy immediately. Land Registry has a form I believe. Also check whether any debt has been secured against the house.

If he’s not managing the debt your house is at risk of repossession.

I think things could potentially be a whole lot worse than you think, and you need to be prepared to leave.

CoralOP · 09/08/2025 13:08

So sneeky and nasty. You have a house together, he should never keep this from you.
I would be setting up an experian or clearacore account with his details to see what's actually going, tough shit if it's an invasion of privacy, he's been lying to you throughout a 13 year relationship.
I would of assumed it was from gambling but it doesn't really matter what it's from really. Sorry your in this position x

DoYouReally · 09/08/2025 13:08

He's lying about some many thinking's here.

At a minimum, he needs to show you all the statement. He can request and receive copy statement for any account houng back 6 years.

If he agreed to do that, you can see how the situation arose - it's gambling, addiction or stupidity - there isn't another option and neither of those options are great.

If he refused to be transparent and at least allow you the chance to address this together, then you aren't a team, he continents be a liar and you are better off alone.

ChimneyPot · 09/08/2025 13:09

I worked in a not for profit helping people in debt for years. If he won’t at least do a credit report and show you then you and he have a serious problem.
You can’t build a life with him.
It could be gambling or another addiction.
50k in 2 years sounds like gambling.

How did you manage the mortgage application without this coming out?

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 09/08/2025 13:18

Do a credit search on him with clear score
it’s free and pretty easy if you know all of his personal details 😂

But how did he get a mortgage with 50k debt

when my son got his mortgage he had 3k on a credit card that they wanted paid off before they gave him the mortgage and they wanted proof it was paid

Namechanged4obviousreasons · 09/08/2025 13:26

Tell him you will sit down and open his credit file with all 3 agencies and he can show you that way what is owed. It will also show the accounts that were closed to put stuff into a debt management plan and all balances. He can choose to sit and do this with you or you leave. Not saying you shouldn’t leave, even if he does show you, but his reaction alone will be telling as he can’t hide behind saying he’s deleted emails etc. If he’s being honest, he can access his report with all agencies in a matter of minutes.

AzureFish · 09/08/2025 13:36

ChimneyPot · 09/08/2025 13:09

I worked in a not for profit helping people in debt for years. If he won’t at least do a credit report and show you then you and he have a serious problem.
You can’t build a life with him.
It could be gambling or another addiction.
50k in 2 years sounds like gambling.

How did you manage the mortgage application without this coming out?

We got out first mortgage 2018, then second in 2019. I cleared his credit cards, as that was one thing stopping us getting the first mortgage. He has two loans taken out in 2023 and a credit card on 2023. Which have accumulated to 50k (that I know about)

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