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Gf In AA -Am I being ridiculous?

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ConfusedGuy79 · 24/07/2025 01:23

My partner of 2 years (late 40s) is a recovering Alcoholic who has been going to AA for about 15 years. I (m45) adore her and am really proud of how well she does. She's had a few setbacks recently due to personal issues, separation from her lomg term marriage and other family problems. She's had a rough time of late and really struggled mentally. Together, we're fairly good, and have both been serious about our relationship, certainly over the last 12 months. I absolutely adore her and love her and she says the same of me.

I must confess before i go further, I also suffer from jealousy and anxiety at times so it may just be me here but I feel Im going a bit mad at the moment.

Basically, we're a fairly new relationship and both expressed we were keen to progress things. We'd talked about moving in together and I generally stay at hers most nights but I have kids who regularly stay and the older ones aren't sold on her yet (she's a bit stand off and their mother has had an influence) so I staybat my own place when i have them. She was initially keen to be invovled but recently she's backed off, even outright telling me she's not wanted to get invovled. Shes still come along occasionally amd come over to mine occasionally for a visit when i have the kids bit it has caused tension between us. She basically doesn't see me when I have my kids (3x kids aged 4 to 14).

I initially I thought her standing off it's just because of the issues she's facing at the moment , such as stress, depression and anxiety of her own, but I am getting a little concerned.

Last week things come to a head as i had the kids two nights/three days, my only days off work. Id planned days out with the kids and invited her in the hopes to build some bridges and for my kids to really get to know her and see how wonderful she can be.

Id first planed a trip out with kids to a picnic. She said she didn't want to come as I should have quality time with the kids, which I totally get. I went with the kids and had a great time. She instead chose to go sea swimming with her AA friend (male) who she does every morning , every day . She also then laid on her sofa watching self help/motivation videos on Yt before going for a quiet country walk with her same friend then onto an AA meeting with him.

Next day same again, didn't want to come to the beach with me and the kids, chose to swim with her friend , go see her other male friend in his "welfare" allotment (it was raining) and then onto another AA meeting.

Basically every day is an swim session and AA meeting, also sometimes these allotment meetings with her male sponsor and or otehr Aa related stuff. I've met a few of them and they seem nice but I feel like an outside when they chat. Also I'm aware that some of them have hit ony.gf, even though she says it's all about welfare and recovery... I just hear a lot of them hooking up a lot amd see a lot of the men hugging and kissing the girls.

A few weeks back we argued because Same sponsor and other men from AA were all over her holiday pics asking "jokingly" to see more tits and legs amd liking her bikini pics. I was upset because moments after the request for more pics, she posted a hot selfie.

I felt it was inappropriate but she just laughed it off and said it's cos they all take the piss and have a laugh... they're basically just a bit over familiar because they're like a family.

I get anxious at how close they all seem and becuase she's admitted to having an affair with one AA member previously, before I met her , but said she'd never do it again as it put their recovery at risk... I believe her and don't believe she's doing anything behind my back, but I do get a bit annoyed at how she seems to put their "fellowship" first, how close they all are and how invovled with the men she is (always kissing and hugging).

I don't mind her going as I know she needs it but I feel it's a bit over powering and now she's chosong it over doing things with me/my family, especially every day, three times a day.

Whilst she was away on holiday she intervened in a situation with a fellow AA member she did not know who relapsed. She saw him.drunk and spoke to his wife after he was abusive and threatened another holiday maker. The wife went home and she went to his room to try and talk to him with her friend. He wasn't there but she basically babysat him for a few days after that until.he went home, despite promising me she wouldn't get involved.

When I mention it I feel awful and she tells me im just jealous. I usually get told to like it or lump it or quoted at by the big book or how AA justifies it all, they're just recovering and i am making her/them worse.

When I mention that I suffer with some mental issues, she closes ranks with her AA fellowship and basically calls me pit saying I need to get a grip or just stop thinking/feeling/acting the way I do. I'm made to feel like my feelings or anguish don't matter as I don't get drunk and lose control because of them. But she'd go out of her way to listen to and help a stranger who was an addict. Like I don't matter, well thats how ot feels.

I do feels jealous, mostly as she doesn't seem to listen to me or respect my opinion over those in her fellowship, many of whom are criminals or have had very dubious pasts, where as I've always worked hard, never been in any trouble and am generally fairly decent.

I feel absolutely drained over analysing it all bit I can't see us ever being able to move in together if she can't accept my kids or if I can't get my head round this AA business and how close they all are.

Any advice ?

OP posts:
VoodooQualities · 24/07/2025 01:36

It sounds like you occupy a small corner of her otherwise full life... a life with a group of people who have affairs, hug and kiss each other and ask to see pics of her tits.

Cut her loose.

CallMeFlo · 24/07/2025 01:42

Id leave

It sounds like youre very low on her priority list. Thats not going to change.

Shes never going to prioritise you or your relationship

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 24/07/2025 01:45

Her recovery has to come first.

If she is prioritising it, that's surely a good thing.

You sound jealous.

ConfusedGuy79 · 24/07/2025 01:52

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 24/07/2025 01:45

Her recovery has to come first.

If she is prioritising it, that's surely a good thing.

You sound jealous.

This is exactly what she says... I don't have any previous experience of AA and I'm wondering is it all normal? That's exactly why I've posted here.

I've tried reading the big book and talking/listening and I absolutely agree her recovery is important, but I just wanted some advice and maybe insight or experience if this is "normal". Feels a bit too intimate and I noted sponsors in particular were ment to be same sex ideally. Again, I know I sound and feels jealous. If im out of order by all means tell me so and help me understand, im seeking understanding as well as advice.

OP posts:
TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 24/07/2025 01:59

Yes, it's normal for a recovering addict to need to prioritise their recovery and it's essential that they do.

You shouldn't be interrupting this process with your attempts to make her part of your children's lives.

MindTheAbyss · 24/07/2025 02:14

There are open AA meetings - you could go to one and get some more insight on what recovery involves. There is also Al-Anon, for the friends and families of alcoholics (whether they are still active or sober).

Starlight7080 · 24/07/2025 02:25

Does she have children?
I wouldn't try to force the relationship with your children and her. 2 years is not a long time. Especially when with someone with an addiction.
You should just focus on your children.
She does need to focus on her recovery. As you have said she has relapsed before.

Ponderingwindow · 24/07/2025 02:32

You should be incredibly careful about bringing an addict into your children’s lives. If she is still working this hard to maintain her sobriety and needs this many meetings, she is not ready to be a part of a family.

Lurkingandlearning · 24/07/2025 02:52

You prioritise your children, as you should. Likewise she prioritises her sobriety. If you can’t respect each other’s priorities and make room for them you shouldn’t be together.

It seems you want her to change how she spends time with her friends. That is never ok, but these are more than friends, they are her AA support group. If you don’t trust her not to cheat on you then end it. You’ve said you are a jealous person so are probably only compatible with women who have solely female friends, colleagues etc. That’s going to be hard to find so you might want to get some help for your jealousy

BabyCatFace · 24/07/2025 05:26

15 years of AA - this is her priority in life. Your kids are not going to get a look in and your position is only going to be alongside AA, not in any way instead of. You can accept that or not, but you can't change it.

autienotnaughty · 24/07/2025 05:51

I think if you are happy to date this woman when your kids aren’t there and lead separate lives when they are then crack on. But it doesn’t sound like your children would benefit in anyway by having this woman in their lives and she sounds busy and fulfilled with only a small amount of time for you. If you need/want more you need to move on. No you shouldn’t be jealous of her friendships/support system and she is absolutely right to put her recovery above all else but if what’s she’s able to give isn’t enough for you and makes you unhappy you need to move on.

Itsseweasy · 24/07/2025 05:54

I would stop running around worrying about what she’s up to (she sounds awful, by the way) and prioritise what is best for your kids, as you should be doing.
Forcing an addict to become their new mum does not sound like it’s in their best interest.

Linenpickle · 24/07/2025 05:57

Dump and move on.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/07/2025 06:13

Indeed move on. Her primary relationship is with drink and not you.

Get therapy for yourself re your low self esteem linked to jealousy and being codependent. Why did you choose this woman to date at all?. You have chosen poorly and in addition she does not appear to be divorces which makes you the other man.

Keep your kids front and center in your life, not this woman. Your kids do not need an addict in their lives.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/07/2025 06:22

Being a rescuer and or saviour in a relationship does not work either. She’s a crap partner to you and she’ll be no stepmum of note to your children. She’s not interested now in them or you really as she is in relationships with her fellow AA sponsors. And none of that is normal either.

arcticpandas · 24/07/2025 06:26

She's already in a relationship with AA and all the members. There is obviously no room for you, nor does she wishes to make space for you. I would let her be.

Climbinghigher · 24/07/2025 06:29

If you are going to date someone in active addiction (which she is, whether she’s drinking or not, with that much drama going on in AA), you are going to have to learn a lot about addiction very very quickly. Look up dry drunk. Look up king Baby. Look up codependency.

And why on earth are you introducing your kids to all this. Your desperation for happy families means you’re ignoring the reality that is screaming at you. Honestly if you want to continue to date that’s up to you, but remove your kids from this dynamic.

someone has mentioned Al-anon. There’s Aldo SMART recovery family and friends.

CrownCoats · 24/07/2025 06:29

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 24/07/2025 01:59

Yes, it's normal for a recovering addict to need to prioritise their recovery and it's essential that they do.

You shouldn't be interrupting this process with your attempts to make her part of your children's lives.

This sounds like more than just prioritising her recovery. If it wasn’t AA and was a hobby club I don’t think people would be so quick to defend inappropriate behaviour like flirting, hugging and kissing. She doesn’t need to spend all day, every day with her sponsor to ensure her recovery. That sounds extremely unprofessional on his part. I wonder if he has a partner? It sounds like an emotional affair.

LividSquidward · 24/07/2025 06:30

I can’t believe you’re trying to force a relationship with a recovering alcoholic on your children.
None of this is healthy.
Your jealousy is unhealthy and the relationship has no legs.
Raise your bar and priorities your children.

I speak as someone who was married to an alcoholic and knows how this ends.

romdowa · 24/07/2025 06:31

She's found a new addiction , to aa. She sounds heavily intertwinded with the organisation and the members . There isn't much space for you and your relationship. Time to move on

ForrinMummy · 24/07/2025 06:35

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 24/07/2025 01:45

Her recovery has to come first.

If she is prioritising it, that's surely a good thing.

You sound jealous.

The flip side of that, is knowing you will always be lower priority.
I don’t think you’re that important to her.

I don’t think she’s much of a catch either to be honest. Has she a job? Any real friends outside AA?

I think the first post basically has it.

AgentJohnson · 24/07/2025 06:36

It’s very clear that you are not compatible. It sounds like when it’s just the two you in your bubble, you are loves young dream but as soon as the real world enters the chat, there’s not much you have in common.

Move on already, there was never a foundation to build anything on.

Onelifeonly · 24/07/2025 06:44

It doesn't really matter whether she is behaving exactly like all other recovering alcoholics (ie what she says is correct, I have no idea personally), this relationship isn't working for you and in any case, I'd be wary of getting my children involved with someone like this, because 'recovering' could mean 'relapsing' at any point.

My advice would be to move on.

voucherwowcher · 24/07/2025 06:49

I’ve had a family member in AA and thought they took, male / female relations within the groups very very seriously. AA is meant to be a safe space for anyone recovering and my understanding is that woman are intended to feel very safe, and without any chance of men coming onto them when they’re in a vulnerable position. So I’m honestly surprised by men from the group making jokes about boobs etc.

Also my experience is that going
ro AA and being a recovering alcoholic becomes their whole personality, it’s such an ingrained part of their life it seems to take priority over everything else

Huggersunite · 24/07/2025 06:52

I think AA is wonderful because I have seen it really work however the people I know who are in it are heavily dependent on it to replace what they got from alcohol in the past.

I know people who go to meetings nightly for decades and would not be sober without it.

The intense relationships and breaking up other relationships is definitely a thing too which could be argued to make a lot of sense because you are not the same person anymore.

Maybe this relationship cannot give you what you need?