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DP can't help speaking to me like crap

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givemeabreak · 27/05/2008 12:15

As per subject heading dp can't seem to help himself from speaking to me like crap. He can't help raising his voice for something that could be said in a normal relaxed manner and I don't know what to do about it.
Latest incident was last night when on the phone to my boss, I gestured for him to take baby son from me so I could discuss work with boss and he gestured back he had his hands full. I admitedly was quite anxious to get back to phone and carried on holding him out to be taken to which he growled really loudly. I've got my hands full. Being really embarrassed at the thought boss may have heard how shit he had just spoke to me I gave him a look to which he snapped don't look at me like that.

After phone call I had an apology which was along the lines of I'm sorry but I didn't know it was your boss, he probably didn't hear, well are you stupid could you not see I had my hands full?

Similar incidents have happened previously. Its bad enough him snapping at me over practically nothing anyway but he doesn't even care if its in public. He has called me a moran before in front of mum and dad and friends of family, told me to f off in front off sister and brother in law to name a few occassions. Its ok saying sorry but how I can I stop this?. Sorry means nothing if its going to happen again, which of course he always say it wont until the nexst time. He has such a short fuse and now kids are getting older I'm especially getting sick of being spoken to like crap.

When I try talk to him about it I get responses such as you have said all this already, I've said sorry if your not going to forgive me then stop lecturing me about it. He does also tend to say that I can find someone else if I'm not happy. Why can't he understand that a sorry can not just make me snap into my happy self again.

In honesty I feel like he has spoke to me like shit so many times before and got away with it that he obviously thinks he can get away with it.

I do also feel like all he does it find fault with everything I do. He seems to have such a low opinion of me I don't know why hes with me?. He has admitted taking me for granted previously but still doesn't stop doing it.

I have put up with a lot of shit in the 7 years we've been together from forgiving the fact that he forgot to tell me he had a girlfriend when we first got together, to being tormented by his ex(he left her), to being tormented by his bestmate, he prefered ex as she was his partners bestfriend, to him getting steaming when I was pregnant with our 2 and a half year old daughter and telling me he wanted nothing to do with us. He was apologetic next day but it still hurts me to think about it. He wasn't much more support when pregnant with son either. If ever we were going somewhere he always made me seem like I was being really selfish if I didn't want to stay out really late and wanted him to go him with me. On the night son was born I asked mum if she could look after our daughter so that partner could go for a few pints with friends. My mum was staying with us and had brought daughter back having looked after her for a week. I had told partner not to be too late as daughter had been waking in the night and I didn't think it was fair to take P with mum having looked after her all previous week. Next day I found out he had got in at 5am having fallen asleep at friends. I really didn't want to argue as I knew it would upset my mum and she obviously didn't want to upset me so made light of it. The morning after giving birth when in hospital he was still moaning at me for the amount of stuff I'd taken in. Could he not give me a break within 24 hours of giving birth?. No obviously not. Later in the evening I had to go back to hospital as I didn't think everything was right down below. Although he went to the hospital with me all he could do was moan about being tired (probably because you was up until 5am this morning?).

On top of all this he never seems to want to socialise with me. We do things as a family but he'd never think to arrange for just the two of us to go out. Despite me saying we really need to do this. He says he prefers to spend time with his friends cause I'm always moaning and he already sees loads of me. Yes he does see fair bit of me but its in the house and he spends his time either in the bath, on the internet or reading paper. When we do go out it is usually always with his circle of friends and its always split between men and woman so we barey speak to each other then either. Last time we went out as a couple was christmas time and thats only because his sister paid for a meal for two for us.

He rarely shows me much affection anymore either. I can't sit on his knee without it hurting him etc. I always seem to be one making effort but never getting anything back. When do you just give up and learn that he isn't going to change at all?

He is good dad, I do trust him strangely enough even though he has lied to me on numerous occasions. What do I do?

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WigWamBam · 27/05/2008 12:19

Does he treat other people like this? Because if he doesn't then he can help treating you like dirt. He chooses to do it.

I think you have the answer yourself really - he's done it before and got away with it. Because you put up with it, he thinks it's acceptable.

Don't put up with it. He can only treat you like this if you let him - stand up for yourself.

Anna8888 · 27/05/2008 12:22

It's not just talking, is it? He treats you really badly.

Why have you put up with it until now? What do your parents think about it? How do his parents behave? Do you like his family?

littlelapin · 27/05/2008 12:24

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givemeabreak · 27/05/2008 12:26

He does seem to speak to nearest and dearest like it rather than his friends etc. Can speak to his brother/sister like crap sometimes. Which makes me think at the back of his mind cause he knows they don't like it but will put with it he can do it. Hasn't spoke to kids like it yet but they are still young. I'm scared they are going to speak to me like he does if he carries on.

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TheProvincialLady · 27/05/2008 12:28

He sounds dreadful TBH. What are his good points?

LazyLinePainterJane · 27/05/2008 12:29

He lies to you, he doesn't show you affection, he speaks to you like crap, he doesn't socialise with you, he puts you down in front of friends and family, he doesn't help you out.

Awww but he's a "good dad". Honestly! How many times do we hear this??

Divastrop · 27/05/2008 12:30

he's a grown man,therefore he can help speaking to you like crap.

if he doesnt love or respect you,then why doesnt he do the decent thing and leave?or has he got it too easy?

stand up to him;tell him you're not putting up with being treated like a piece of shit any longer,and if he doesnt like it he can go.

i'm sorry,but a man who treats the mother of his children like this is not a good father.part of being a father is teaching your children,by example,the right way to treat others.

MrsMills · 27/05/2008 12:30

Does he love you?

givemeabreak · 27/05/2008 12:32

I love him. My parents didn't say anything on occassion he called me a moron. Was pregnant at time. They probably felt embarrassed in front of friends. I did!. I know it can't be nice for them to hear him speak to me like that but I've got kids with him and they obviously don't want to rock boat further when he is way. They act like they like him cos he does have other more positive attributes which I'd probably be more likely to tell people/them about usually so he doesnt seem all bad.

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Anna8888 · 27/05/2008 12:33

He needs to learn to treat his family with respect.

Take him to Relate. They will sort him out for you

wessexgirl · 27/05/2008 12:33

A good dad doesn't speak to his dcs' mother like that - especially in front of them.

They WILL speak to you in the same way if he carries on. If they think it's normal, why wouldn't they?

I would be severely depressed after 7 years of this tbh. Fair play to you for keeping on top of things, but I think you need to seriously consider making an ultimatum or two.

Good luck.

LazyLinePainterJane · 27/05/2008 12:33

The guy is clearly a knob. He chooses to treat you like dirt. But you let him do it, so as he is such a knob, he continues to do so.

You will tell him enough is enough. His reaction will either be to stop or tell you fuck off (again). What you need to think about is what will your reaction be when he doesn't change?

Alambil · 27/05/2008 12:34

He isn't a good dad if he speaks to you like that. He's teaching his DC respect means nothing and aggression is the only form of communication; that isn't good IMO.

Womens' Aid list the way he speaks to you and treats you as domestic abuse; scary really to think that "just talking to me like shit" is taken so seriously by such an organisation.

I think it's time for a serious chat; sort yourself out or we go... simple. You don't deserve to be spoken to like that - you're a human being, not a pile of dog crap.

MrsMills · 27/05/2008 12:36

I suspected you did love him ,
but is it reciprocal?

littlelapin · 27/05/2008 12:37

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givemeabreak · 27/05/2008 12:37

I think he does love me but takes my good nature for granted. I don't think he really likes being the way he is. He admits hes a moaner/worrier. Trying to workout whether his temper has got worse since he stped smoking. He does know its not good for kids hearing him speak to me like S and acknowledges we needs to shield then from our fallouts.

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dividedself · 27/05/2008 12:38

The negatives:
snapping at me over practically nothing

He has called me a moran

He has such a short fuse

I can find someone else if I'm not happy

He seems to have such a low opinion of me I don't know why hes with me?.

I do also feel like all he does it find fault with everything I do

He has admitted taking me for granted

he forgot to tell me he had a girlfriend when we first got together

I have put up with a lot of shit in the 7 years we've been together

him getting steaming when I was pregnant

telling me he wanted nothing to do with us

He wasn't much more support when pregnant with son either

Could he not give me a break within 24 hours of giving birth?. No obviously not.

He rarely shows me much affection anymore either

I always seem to be one making effort but never getting anything back

he has lied to me on numerous occasions

Believe me I know it's hard, but stop asking yourself 'why does he hurt me like this?' and ask yourself this instead: 'why do i stay with a man who neither loves me or respects me?'

It's not that he does love you and respect you but doesn't know how to show it. Sorry.

Alambil · 27/05/2008 12:40

Shielding kids doesn't work - they WILL pick it up. They will.

He needs to change - that is the ONLY option IME.

From Women's Aid site:

Emotional Absuse:
destructive criticism,
name calling,
sulking
pressure tactics
lying to you, or to your friends and family about you
persistently putting you down in front of other people
never listening or responding when you talk
isolating you from friends and family, monitoring your phone calls, emails, texts and letters
checking up on you, following you, not letting you go out alone.

I know it's shocking to see it in black and white but what he's doing is abuse - it's damaging your self esteem and teaching your kids that mummy is to be spoken to like dirt.

givemeabreak · 27/05/2008 12:43

He owns house so I think he thinks he has a hold over me there but to be honest I really don't care about financial side of things. I'm not money driven and although it wouldn't be easy I wouldn't stay with him just because financially we'd be less well off.

I have tried to put it in perspective "how would you like to hear our daughter being treated like this?"

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dividedself · 27/05/2008 12:46

Okay, what stops you getting out?

I have my list - it';s the same every time I'm in a shitty relationship. Feeling lonely, the deep sadness, the starting again, the wondering if it's loneliness all the way from now, the happy memories and having to let go of plans for the future with 'him'..........

fluffyanimal · 27/05/2008 12:54

To echo littlelapin, what do you love about him? Or do you just 'love' having a husband, a man in the house, someone in your bed at night? or do you 'love' your devotion to him, your ability to honour your wedding vows? or do you love the 'nice' him rather than the whole him? None of these are real love, or enough to sustain a relationship.

I'm not saying it can't be fixed, but he needs to change and you both need to do a lot of talking, and then maybe love will come back into it.

givemeabreak · 27/05/2008 12:54

We do have some happy times still and I stay for them. I just wish I could get him to treat me with some respect.

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fluffyanimal · 27/05/2008 12:56

What would he do if you gave him an ultimatum - change this behaviour or I leave with the dcs? Or if you did just take the dcs and go somewhere? Do you think it might shock him into action?

littlewoman · 27/05/2008 12:57

I'm sorry to say this but your husband's behaviour sounds very similar to my xh. Mine resented me and the children for tying him down. He was much too fabulous to be married with children. He's gone off to become famous now (I kid you not!)

This sounds like abuse born of disappointment on his part. Though heck knows what he was expecting from life. Why do people always think the grass is greener?

dividedself · 27/05/2008 12:58

Being hard nosed today...

You can't gt people to respect you. you can't make them respect you. They either do or they don't. You can disallow someone from disrespecting you for sure, but you CANNOT 'get them to respect you'.

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