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I have been a fool - what do I do now?

75 replies

DoublePoppy · 16/07/2025 15:50

I’ll try not to let this get to long. Readers try not to facepalm too much whilst reading it. What an idiot I have been.

I met my husband in my early 20s. Whirlwind romance, deeply in love, married within a year.
This meant me moving to his country as he works in and was set to inherit the family business.
His parents were very strange from the start, abusive and incredibly unwelcoming. We lived in a mobile home in their garden temporarily. This turned into 5 years and two children later.
His father said H could have a derelict cottage he owned if H paid to renovate it. It was just a ruined shell. We jumped at the chance to get out of the mobile home. H had always refused to rent somewhere instead of the mobile home - it was cheap, near to his parents and work, etc etc. It was horrendous to live in. Damp, no proper bed, crawling with spiders. It was miserable, especially through pregnancies and with babies and toddlers.

Living in his country was awful. I didn’t speak the language, and the locals hate the English. When I did go to classes to try learn the language, they would just answer me in English anyway so I gave up.
I tried SO hard to integrate and so hard with his parents. They were vile to me. I won’t go into all of that.

After the first year H started to work away more, setting up his own branch of the business and often being away for weeks at a time. I would see no one but the children. He wouldn’t discuss moving - ‘the cottage will be done soon’ ‘we can’t afford it’ ‘my dad will disown me.’

Anyway by year 5 the cottage was complete. Cost us about £180k and beautiful, but FIL promised H it would be ours. Only he never actually changed the deeds. I knew he never intended to but H would get very angry when I suggested this.

By year 8/9 I was thoroughly miserable. I lived next to absolutely vile in laws, I had no real friends, I only saw the children really. I decided to retrain and gave H an ultimatum. I needed the means to go to university, or I was out. He agreed to us hiring a nanny to cover me doing a full time course. He offered no further help or support. Due to the extreme remote location, retraining was hard and long hours, but I did it. I got a first and got my dream job.

One year in to my degree he had an affair. He claims he didn’t, only hugged her and just felt sorry for her. But I found the messages he’d sent telling her he loved her etc.
He was so sorry, so regretful, so contrite. Promised to cut all contact and that he loved me. Then a week later was still texting her. I should have left then but I didn’t.

I had a breakdown last year. It was all too much, the whole situation, the relentless years bringing up all the kids alone, living next to his family who systematically bullied me. I took 3 months off work and had extensive counselling. H was no support at all. He said nice things. But refused to take even one afternoon off work, even when I was feeling close to suicidal and couldn’t get out of bed. Just left me with the kids. It was awful for them. I couldn’t even look after myself.

My amazing counsellor and friends from my new job got me through. Not him. I realised I needed to move back to England.

I told him this and he said he’d move to further away from his parents but not move country. It was a start. We went to look at houses and even offered on one, but he maintained throughout that he hoped they would refuse it as he didn’t want to live there anyway. Kept saying he would move, then rejected every house.

I said I was moving back to England. Started looking for a house. Then through a friend we were offered the most amazing house and business premises for H. In the place I grew up, with all my old friends.

We took it. Life for me has improved dramatically. But I have realised that he is just turning into his father over again. His father moved into our cottage when we left and refused to pay H a penny. So we lost near on £200k. He has tried to poison H against me. H listens to him.

H is obviously carrying a lot of trauma from the situation (he has indeed been disowned for moving) and from his abusive childhood.
He is unable to be a caring husband or father. He cannot understand even the simplest emotions. He seems emotionally dead, and says he feels it. I have suggested counselling but he won’t do it.

I am just exhausted. I have wasted 15 years of my life and for nothing. I don’t think he ever did care.

Well done if you got this far. Thank you.

OP posts:
Berlinlover · 16/07/2025 17:35

If OP was living in a Gaeltacht area the locals really do speak Irish as their mother tongue.

Rabbitsockpeony · 16/07/2025 18:55

toottoot3 · 16/07/2025 16:37

I'm sure you H isn't awful, all the time but his trauma is and until he decides to deal with it, it's going to effect you terribly

No I’m pretty sure he is awful actually.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 16/07/2025 19:07

You didn't waste 15 years. You've got two children, a degree, and life experience (kicking) to boot. You move away, and onwards.

Suednymph · 16/07/2025 20:57

If your kids were born in the UK and you are there now then while he will of course have rights you can fight your case. I am assuming either travelling community who solely and weirdly speak only Irish or somewhere like the Aran Islands or something but while his family and he might be twats you can still get away from them all. I wish you all the best.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 16/07/2025 21:38

Berlinlover · 16/07/2025 17:35

If OP was living in a Gaeltacht area the locals really do speak Irish as their mother tongue.

I am genuinely shocked by how many commenters don’t seem to know this.

YourOnMute · 16/07/2025 21:43

Suednymph · 16/07/2025 20:57

If your kids were born in the UK and you are there now then while he will of course have rights you can fight your case. I am assuming either travelling community who solely and weirdly speak only Irish or somewhere like the Aran Islands or something but while his family and he might be twats you can still get away from them all. I wish you all the best.

Irish speaking areas are in many parts of Ireland usually along the coast.
Irish Travellers do not usually speak Irish, they have their own language. But funnily enough it's not weird if any group of people speak a language different to English.

Suednymph · 16/07/2025 21:53

@YourOnMute I am aware of this. I was diluting for the op. I am Irish and in Ireland myself.

EternalLodga · 16/07/2025 22:07

OMFG can we not derail the OPs thread with the Irish factor please, its not a salient point. Its called the Gaeltacht, let's move on.

OP why did you even take him back to England with you? Hes a ball and chain

BabyCatFace · 16/07/2025 22:14

Send him back to his dreadful parents and find yourself somewhere to rent. File for divorce and investigate with a lawyer whether you can sue the PILs for any of the money you invested in that cottage. Yes the grandparents might get to see them sometimes but not a lot and the rest of their lives will be much happier, as will yours.

YourOnMute · 17/07/2025 01:19

It is when it's questioned, as though the OP is making it up somehow.
Honestly I think you'd be better off without him. How old are your children? Are they teenagers? If so they're old enough to make their own decisions re. access, certainly in Ireland.
If you are in the UK with a secure home, what do you need him for? What does he bring to your life?
Or if you're planning on leaving to the UK then go.
I'd seek legal advice on your investment into the house but I fear that might be difficult. You don't own it but your in laws. However you could have a very bright future without all this negativity.

Chocja · 17/07/2025 08:56

Personally this sounds a highly toxic marriage and an environment to raise your DC. It sounds like you are living in an area that you want to be, so no having to persuade him to move.

I would start getting my ducks in a row for a divorce. With any luck he will go back to his parents and yes the kids might see their grandparents but it has to be less toxic than seeing their mum put up with their useless dad and having a breakdown.

Give them a really happy home and they will thank you for it.

3luckystars · 17/07/2025 09:03

can you please explain to me about the language situation ? I’m finding it hard to understand.

The whole thing is toxic but it’s like you just woke up now that you are home

3luckystars · 17/07/2025 09:06

DoNoTakeNo · 16/07/2025 17:19

If the OP says that this particular small community doesn’t, then despite it being very unusual, I think we should just believe her.

I am Irish living in Ireland and can’t figure how this would be the case either.

RosaMundi27 · 17/07/2025 09:32

If by "Ireland" you mean the Republic, I would advise to start divorce proceedings there. The settlements for wives, esp. if children are involved tend to be extremely generous. No matter how nice and/or damaged your husband is - he will not change, and you are entitled to have a life. If you can't do it for yourself, please think of your children.

Katykaty11 · 17/07/2025 09:41

Sorry if I missed it - how old are your children?

VeryStressedMum · 17/07/2025 09:44

EternalLodga · 16/07/2025 22:07

OMFG can we not derail the OPs thread with the Irish factor please, its not a salient point. Its called the Gaeltacht, let's move on.

OP why did you even take him back to England with you? Hes a ball and chain

It has confused a lot of people as it's written as if she was in a non English speaking country, so people couldn't easily understand the language barrier issue.
Also the children are British born in Britain which would indicate Northern Ireland however purely Gaelic speaking communities there are even less common, but if it was very remote then it's certainly possible.

Regardless, she is now back in England and apart from the husband issue, seems happier. I think she could benefit from personal therapy, not with him, but to help come to terms with her life and how to effectively move forward, whether that will be a divorce or still in the marriage.

Gettingamixedresponse · 17/07/2025 10:20

@DoublePoppy I think the time has come to put yourself and the kids first. He needs to be left to one side to sort himself out. You don’t owe it to him to make his life better at the detriment of you and the children. Crack on with your life the way you want to, try to stop looking back if you can, you really did make the best of a bad situation. The dogs/puppies have to go. I suspect you feel responsible for his happiness now you’re back in the uk and that’s why you allowed him to get them. He didn’t give you the same consideration when you were in his home place though did he? I understand you saying he’s not a bad man but he hasn’t treated you well at all in the past and if you went back to Ireland he’d probably revert to his previous behaviour.

Just start living the way you want to, you may find he’ll either pull his socks up and start looking at his own behaviour or go back to his home place where you won’t have to deal with him too often. Either way is an improvement. Good luck op.

Meandmyguy · 17/07/2025 10:27

@3luckystars really? Come on now.

Meandmyguy · 17/07/2025 10:28

What advice are you looking for op?

Anonymousopinions · 17/07/2025 10:39

3luckystars · 17/07/2025 09:06

I am Irish living in Ireland and can’t figure how this would be the case either.

Also Irish in Ireland and I don't think it should be underestimated how much some remote Gaeltacht areas would be unwilling to speak English for the convenience of an English person. Especially if it was up North, I imagine OP's DH did not prepare her for how "other" she would be treated. If she didn't have the backing of his family in the local community, or any means to integrate via work, it would have been even worse.

For those unfamiliar with the cultural subtext, just to clarify this wouldn't be the experience in the vast majority of Ireland today.

Edited to add, I think all the discussion around language is detailing the post. (Sorry to contribute too it, just wanted to validate the OP's experience against scepticism.) OP, I think you should ask yourself where happiness lies for you. You deserve to follow it. His trauma is not your responsibility ultimately.

2024onwardsandup · 17/07/2025 10:43

He’s horrible. He won’t change. Stop trying to please him. Just say no. Rehome the dogs. Divorce him.

ArthurBloom · 17/07/2025 10:43

Much like you, he has hit a point where it is his mistake.
Your mistake is still staying when the relationship has lost all value, his mistake is not growing up and changing, blaming childhood etc at 30+ years of age is lunacy.
From what I've read, the relationship is over. When you hit a point where your husband leaving your life is an improvement across the board, you need to break up.

EternalLodga · 17/07/2025 12:00

VeryStressedMum · 17/07/2025 09:44

It has confused a lot of people as it's written as if she was in a non English speaking country, so people couldn't easily understand the language barrier issue.
Also the children are British born in Britain which would indicate Northern Ireland however purely Gaelic speaking communities there are even less common, but if it was very remote then it's certainly possible.

Regardless, she is now back in England and apart from the husband issue, seems happier. I think she could benefit from personal therapy, not with him, but to help come to terms with her life and how to effectively move forward, whether that will be a divorce or still in the marriage.

It doesn't matter whether people understand it or not. It was the OPs experience.

VeryStressedMum · 17/07/2025 12:21

@EternalLodga yes I know I didn't say it wasn't true, just why people keep talking about Ireland

cloudyblueglass · 17/07/2025 13:57

Crunchymum · 16/07/2025 15:53

So you are back in England now?

What nationality are your DC, so they have UK passports?

Maybe now is the time to look at divorce?

Edited

DC will be British because they gave a British parent.