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20 years ago but…

49 replies

Southcoastscroller67 · 14/07/2025 08:24

Sorry, this is a long one. Looking for some (mainly female) perspective here please.

Recently I found out that my wife kissed a guy three times over a three week period while we were on a break 19 years ago. We had a complicated start to our relationship (sizeable age gap, worked together, both of us were with others at the very start - not proud) and we split up on a couple of occasions due to these pressures and challenges. We had fallen in love though and got back together each time. After reuniting following the second split (two months), I heard a rumour she’d kissed this guy at a party and asked her if it was true. She denied it and I took her at her word, happy to be reunited and keen to get on with our life together.

Fast forward nearly two decades to last year, and on a night out together over bottles of wine, we both started chatting about the past. She asked me about my baggage (no infidelity) and I asked her about hers, including whether anything had actually gone on with this guy. We’re very honest with each other and she felt she was in a safe space, so confessed she’d actually kissed him three times on three different nights out over a very short period of time, but it had just been drunken snogs and meant nothing to either of them. It was just a bit of fun.

We have now been together 20 years (apart from those early breaks), married for 15, have a lovely life, an incredible daughter and still truly dote on each other. But I’m struggling to move away from the pain those actions and subsequent lie (my wife is the most honest person I know, and has a very high moral compass on fidelity) caused and the fact it was with someone we both worked with who I regarded as a friend. She wasn’t unfaithful of course, because we were apart at the time, she was young (24), drunk, her tryst meant nothing, and went no further than just snogging. Yet it’s really affected how I feel trust for her. I’m now jealous (never have been before), more paranoid when she’s away (she travels a lot with her job) and generally insecure about us, even questioning whether I can ever come to terms with this. I’m also angry with the guy - a colleague for a further two years after this and someone I had regarded as a friend - but that’s stupid male ego.

This has also caused her much pain too. She thought I’d just laugh it off after all these years and so much security / water under the bridge for us, but is devastated at the hurt she’s caused me over something so innocuous to her. And while she gave me all the facts I’ve asked for - even though some were embarrassing for her and none of my business - she can no longer discuss the matter with me as it makes her anxious, nervous and upset. Meanwhile my mind races creating loads of what if scenarios that fuel my paranoia.

I understand this isn’t a normal reaction by me, and I should be able to move past this, bearing in mind how strong our marriage is and securely attached we are. I’m just interested to know if my reaction to something so long ago is unusual / totally off the mark. I love my wife so much and this won’t ever break us, but the lie and the vivid image of her with someone else I know hurts like hell at times.

OP posts:
Smellisande · 14/07/2025 09:06

My god get over it. Get some therapy. You were on a break!
Is this from Friends?

TY78910 · 14/07/2025 09:13

20 years ago she would have been a lot younger than she is now and ultimately at that age (my assumption is early 20s) people want to feel lust and have experiences with people. That’s human nature. She didn’t cheat, you were broken up. She didn’t tell you because she was more focused on being with you and moving forward than giving you reasons to go backwards.

I can understand you’re upset about the cover up, but it really wasn’t all that recent as so at this point you need to let it go. You were clearly holding on to it all these years for this to even come up in conversation.

Back to my point about age, she probably doesn’t have the desire to experiment anymore. Unless you are in a bad place in the relationship now and she’s looking for a way out, you need to let go of the jealousy and mistrust. Ask yourself - has she given you any reason to question her in the last 15 years of your marriage? If the answer is no, then you can’t let something that happened so long ago affect how you trust her now. If she covered up a full blown affair, I’d be thinking about this differently.

Smellisande · 14/07/2025 09:13

20 years ago!

MrsMoastyToasty · 14/07/2025 09:16

Have you posted about this before? It seems very familiar.

Ukholidaysaregreat · 14/07/2025 09:17

She kissed some one. You were broken up. This is a big load of nothing.
You need to calm down.

SonofDeva · 14/07/2025 09:17

Let sleeping dogs lie mate and move on

MsPheebs · 14/07/2025 09:19

You were on a break. Get a grip, 20 years ago. And you did ask.

Mumlaplomb · 14/07/2025 09:21

Let this one go.

SpryCat · 14/07/2025 09:22

You two weren’t together then, she didn’t sleep with him and I think you’re overreacting.

DropZone5PleaseBen · 14/07/2025 09:22

I think it's quite controlling and borderline abusive to be worrying about this. You were on a break. It was 20 years ago. Get help for your insecurities ffs.

pearcrumblee · 14/07/2025 09:26

This makes no sense to me, you were on a break, so not your business.

Marineboy67 · 14/07/2025 09:31

You love & trust your wife and this happened 20 years ago on a 'break'. However for you with this new release of information may aswell of happened yesterday. I can understand how your feeling hurt and the retrospective lack of trust it brings out. End of the day you only have her word for what actually happened. When things like this happen people tend to minimalise it, "it meant nothing, I was drunk, I only kissed him 3 times over 3 weeks" sounds like damage limitation to me.
Truth is you'll never know the truth, you have to decide whether you can move forward and forget it or go for a clean break. I lived on in a relationship for 20 years not ever knowing the full truth. It tainted everything and I internalised it never bringing up. To be honest it killed it off in the end. I should've left 20 years earlier. Hard when you have children and huge financial commitments.

Epidote · 14/07/2025 09:33

I wound not give it a second though regardless of who kiss someone else. Same applies to you, it was 20 years ago.

Southcoastscroller67 · 14/07/2025 16:44

MrsMoastyToasty · 14/07/2025 09:16

Have you posted about this before? It seems very familiar.

No I haven’t.

OP posts:
Southcoastscroller67 · 14/07/2025 16:47

TY78910 · 14/07/2025 09:13

20 years ago she would have been a lot younger than she is now and ultimately at that age (my assumption is early 20s) people want to feel lust and have experiences with people. That’s human nature. She didn’t cheat, you were broken up. She didn’t tell you because she was more focused on being with you and moving forward than giving you reasons to go backwards.

I can understand you’re upset about the cover up, but it really wasn’t all that recent as so at this point you need to let it go. You were clearly holding on to it all these years for this to even come up in conversation.

Back to my point about age, she probably doesn’t have the desire to experiment anymore. Unless you are in a bad place in the relationship now and she’s looking for a way out, you need to let go of the jealousy and mistrust. Ask yourself - has she given you any reason to question her in the last 15 years of your marriage? If the answer is no, then you can’t let something that happened so long ago affect how you trust her now. If she covered up a full blown affair, I’d be thinking about this differently.

Thanks. Wise words.

OP posts:
Southcoastscroller67 · 14/07/2025 16:50

Smellisande · 14/07/2025 09:06

My god get over it. Get some therapy. You were on a break!
Is this from Friends?

Not from Friends, having the therapy. Thanks for the response.

OP posts:
Mmhmmn · 14/07/2025 16:52

while we were on a break 19 years ago

vodkaredbullgirl · 14/07/2025 16:53

Let it go, you were on a break, it was a long time ago.

Southcoastscroller67 · 14/07/2025 16:54

Marineboy67 · 14/07/2025 09:31

You love & trust your wife and this happened 20 years ago on a 'break'. However for you with this new release of information may aswell of happened yesterday. I can understand how your feeling hurt and the retrospective lack of trust it brings out. End of the day you only have her word for what actually happened. When things like this happen people tend to minimalise it, "it meant nothing, I was drunk, I only kissed him 3 times over 3 weeks" sounds like damage limitation to me.
Truth is you'll never know the truth, you have to decide whether you can move forward and forget it or go for a clean break. I lived on in a relationship for 20 years not ever knowing the full truth. It tainted everything and I internalised it never bringing up. To be honest it killed it off in the end. I should've left 20 years earlier. Hard when you have children and huge financial commitments.

Sorry for your own difficulties. Thanks for sharing.

OP posts:
happygoluckykindagal · 14/07/2025 16:55

Smellisande · 14/07/2025 09:06

My god get over it. Get some therapy. You were on a break!
Is this from Friends?

Exactly what I was thinking with the friends comment

’we were on a break’

move on OP. Christ alive

YodasHairyButt · 14/07/2025 17:04

You are jeopardising your marriage now and causing your wife anxiety over an absolute non event from 20 years ago. You really need to get over it, whilst taking a long hard honest look at why you have reacted this way.

Duechristmas · 15/07/2025 18:52

With respect, get over yourself or you'll lose it all. It's a lifetime ago and irrelevant now. If you can't get over it, book yourself in for some counselling.

Underoressure · 15/07/2025 18:56

Omg, you were on a BREAK. She hasn’t been unfaithful. Grow up.

CommonAsMucklowe · 15/07/2025 19:01

Smellisande · 14/07/2025 09:06

My god get over it. Get some therapy. You were on a break!
Is this from Friends?

My initial reaction too! Twenty blinking years ago? Get a grip.

Goditsmemargaret · 15/07/2025 19:03

So if you only found out last night and surprised both yourself and your wife with how badly you took it then I'd be saying ok give it a few days, it'll pass.

But it sounds like something you and your wife are actively dealing with.

That is just ridiculous (sorry). I couldn't tell you who I had encounters with at that age.

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