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Southcoastscroller67 · 14/07/2025 08:24

Sorry, this is a long one. Looking for some (mainly female) perspective here please.

Recently I found out that my wife kissed a guy three times over a three week period while we were on a break 19 years ago. We had a complicated start to our relationship (sizeable age gap, worked together, both of us were with others at the very start - not proud) and we split up on a couple of occasions due to these pressures and challenges. We had fallen in love though and got back together each time. After reuniting following the second split (two months), I heard a rumour she’d kissed this guy at a party and asked her if it was true. She denied it and I took her at her word, happy to be reunited and keen to get on with our life together.

Fast forward nearly two decades to last year, and on a night out together over bottles of wine, we both started chatting about the past. She asked me about my baggage (no infidelity) and I asked her about hers, including whether anything had actually gone on with this guy. We’re very honest with each other and she felt she was in a safe space, so confessed she’d actually kissed him three times on three different nights out over a very short period of time, but it had just been drunken snogs and meant nothing to either of them. It was just a bit of fun.

We have now been together 20 years (apart from those early breaks), married for 15, have a lovely life, an incredible daughter and still truly dote on each other. But I’m struggling to move away from the pain those actions and subsequent lie (my wife is the most honest person I know, and has a very high moral compass on fidelity) caused and the fact it was with someone we both worked with who I regarded as a friend. She wasn’t unfaithful of course, because we were apart at the time, she was young (24), drunk, her tryst meant nothing, and went no further than just snogging. Yet it’s really affected how I feel trust for her. I’m now jealous (never have been before), more paranoid when she’s away (she travels a lot with her job) and generally insecure about us, even questioning whether I can ever come to terms with this. I’m also angry with the guy - a colleague for a further two years after this and someone I had regarded as a friend - but that’s stupid male ego.

This has also caused her much pain too. She thought I’d just laugh it off after all these years and so much security / water under the bridge for us, but is devastated at the hurt she’s caused me over something so innocuous to her. And while she gave me all the facts I’ve asked for - even though some were embarrassing for her and none of my business - she can no longer discuss the matter with me as it makes her anxious, nervous and upset. Meanwhile my mind races creating loads of what if scenarios that fuel my paranoia.

I understand this isn’t a normal reaction by me, and I should be able to move past this, bearing in mind how strong our marriage is and securely attached we are. I’m just interested to know if my reaction to something so long ago is unusual / totally off the mark. I love my wife so much and this won’t ever break us, but the lie and the vivid image of her with someone else I know hurts like hell at times.

OP posts:
excelledyourself · 15/07/2025 19:30

If she’d told you at the time, what could have happened?

  1. You split up over it and never had the near-perfect life you have now with her and your daughter
  2. You stayed together, got over it, and built the life you have now.

What’s your preference?

I’m assuming no.2, so all you need to do now is get over it, which is as easy as you make it, especially if you consider how far you have both come since those days.

Spinmerightroundbaby · 15/07/2025 19:48

So many years have passed that you need to find a way to try and move on and get over it. Not great behaviour from your wife and I understand why it’s a shock, but unless you have reason to think she’s being unfaithful now, you need to make your peace with it and move forward. It sounds as though in the early days of your relationship, it was volatile and that this has long since settled down.

Chinsupmeloves · 15/07/2025 20:00

On a break, just kisses, which you could have done as well.

Me and DH were in same position and I kissed someone on holiday, that was it, just a kiss and hug.

He said well that's nothing in the context of how horrible he had been and we haven't spoken about it since!

K8ate · 15/07/2025 20:05

It’s really not a big deal if it was just a kiss
Slightly more understandable if it had been PIV.

Scotland32 · 15/07/2025 21:00

You were on a break! Yes, she could have told you at the time, or sooner than she did, but who she kissed when she wasn’t in a relationship with you, isn’t really your business.
This ought to be a non issue. But since it is an issue for you I think you need to seek help.

Toptops · 15/07/2025 21:19

Op, I'm sorry you are so upset about what happened.
But as others have said it was SO long ago and you were on a break in your relationship.
I think you need to be really careful you don't ruin your stable, loving relationship now for your fantasies arising from what happened then.
You might need a bit help with this.
Treasure what you've got

Mackerelfillets · 15/07/2025 21:58

I haven't any extra advice from what others have said apart from......SHE CHOSE YOU...and has been faithful and devoted since. It is in yours and hers best interest to get over this....sit and think about your future if you don't.....you will ruin everything you have built together for a snog that meant nothing and probably cemented her commitment to you.

thistimelastweek · 15/07/2025 22:05

I reckon I must be dead inside cos none of this resonates emotionally with me.

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 15/07/2025 22:13

Good grief, a few snogs 20 years ago when you were on a break.

You are not teenagers.

Notsosure1 · 15/07/2025 23:50

We had a complicated start to our relationship (sizeable age gap, worked together, both of us were with others at the very start - not proud) and we split up on a couple of occasions due to these pressures and challenges.

What a bloody hypocrite you are. I hope your ex who you fucked over while pursuing this much-younger work colleague sprang to mind when you found out, though I doubt it.

FlamingoFloss · 15/07/2025 23:53

Just really. Grow up

Politygal · 16/07/2025 00:12

Why are you wallowing in self pity over something that didn't really happen 20 years ago? You were not together, nothing happened. You don't own her, or her past actions. Man up. Stop dwelling on it.

Diblin93 · 16/07/2025 03:38

Are you willing to end your relationship over this??? If you are then walk. If you’re not, then let sleeping dogs lie and forget about it. However, if you decide to stay with your wife and keep beating her with this stick (she kissed a bloke while you were on a break and lied about it, then you are in a toxic relationship and she will leave you. Your choice.

Blueberry911 · 16/07/2025 05:21

We’re very honest with each other and she felt she was in a safe space

And yet you're holding onto it this badly? Your poor wife.

StarlightLady · 16/07/2025 05:30

If you are “on a break”, which sounds weird enough to me, you are on a break. You can kiss who you like. And 19 years ago? You even know how many times they kissed? 🙄

mellongoose · 16/07/2025 06:02

Well that’s her ‘safe space’ gone. Your poor wife!

Deboragh · 16/07/2025 08:22

So a single woman kisses someone nearly 20 - TWENTY YEARS ago, and you decide to use it as an excuse to creep into womens spaces because your pathetic little ego thinks it's hurty?? Really.

Crushed23 · 16/07/2025 13:39

MrsMoastyToasty · 14/07/2025 09:16

Have you posted about this before? It seems very familiar.

I think it’s the plot of a popular 90s sitcom. That’s why it seems familiar.

DiscoBob · 16/07/2025 13:44

She kissed someone three times when you weren't even together. Presumably because you were still shagging your wife? You say no infidelity but you were unfaithful with her!? Talk about double standards.

This sounds tragic and you need to see a psychotherapist if you think it's reasonable to dwell on such things.

Cojones · 20/07/2025 19:06

Southcoastscroller67 · 14/07/2025 16:54

Sorry for your own difficulties. Thanks for sharing.

Oh for goodness sake @Southcoastscroller67 and @TY78910 this says more about your own insecurities than anything.

Why would you decide that your wives/partners haven’t disclosed everything? It’s very likely they have been truthful but you’re so hung up on the whole whore/madonna complex that you can’t accept their truth, preferring to assume they lied to you

https://www.modernintimacy.com/the-psychology-of-the-madonna-whore-complex/

MuckFusk · 20/07/2025 19:25

I'll just leave this here and see if you recognize the contradiction therein.

We had a complicated start to our relationship (sizeable age gap, worked together, both of us were with others at the very start - not proud)

(my wife is the most honest person I know, and has a very high moral compass on fidelity)

You're surprised she lied? You both lied to the people you were with when you first got together.

TY78910 · 20/07/2025 19:41

@Cojones 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 did you even read my post?

Starlight7080 · 20/07/2025 19:45

You sound a lot older then her. Is that causing you to be so insecure?
She did nothing wrong . She was single and it was 20 years ago.
You should move on and actually trust her .

Cojones · 20/07/2025 22:25

TY78910 · 20/07/2025 19:41

@Cojones 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 did you even read my post?

@TY78910 Yes. Apologies for lumping you in with the OP, I’ve re-read and it’s all on him.

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