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Very Complicated Situation

78 replies

Mooseylooseyloo · 05/07/2025 16:51

Hi All,
I have posted a couple of times last year and I found the answers very helpful in seeing my situation through another perspective. I was told to leave my partner, and I know really it probably would have been the right thing to do but it's difficult as most of you can probably understand. This is long apologies!

My last post was around my partner asking me to take equity of out my house (70k) for him to start property investing and when I said no, he treated me quite cruely.
Anyway fast forward a year.
Things have just been quite rubbish for the last year. I have a 14 year old son with autism and it does complicate my life a little but it has never stopped me and my partner doing stuff together as I have another DS who is 16 and he helps out a lot with his brother. My Partner has always kind of resented my autistic DS and has never built a relationship with him, in fact he has done things that upset my DS like making noises (my DS sometimes makes noises as stimming) it would really upset my DS when my partner would make all these nosies and I told him to stop many times but his reply was "I like making noises, I've been making noises long before him". I found it very immature tbh. There have been many other things so in 2023 I found an open viagra packet, questioned my partner and at first he said he had no idea what it was, then suddenly remembered he had used it when we went away for my birthday. He's never had to use viagra so I found it very strange. Last year I went through his work phone and found a phone number in there with the name "cu**" I quickly took the number out and added in my phone and it was a woman. I dare not contact her as i just didn't want to know. I questioned my partner and he denied he knew who it was. I kind of brused it all under thr carpet. Since then I've found it very difficult to be intimate or show my partner love, as it was constantly in the back of my mind.
So about a month ago, my DS has a bit of a mental breakdown, I had to call the emergency psychiatrist. It was an absolute hell of a week, I had to supervise him 24/7 and hadn't slept for 3 solid days, couldn't eat It was honestly the worst week of my life. My Partner offered no support, in fact he just complained that I wasn't sleeping in the bed with him as I was having to sleep with my DS and tbst i didnt want sex. Well after 4 days I said to my partner that I was going to have to call my DS father and ask him to come and help me as my DS was not responding and I literally could not do this on my own, there was talking of my DS having to be admitted to crisis hospital. There is no way my DS dad and my partner could be in the same house. I asked my partner if he would stay at his friends house for a couple of weeks until I could get DS well again. His friend has a house about 30 mins away thst is empty and my partner used to live there before we were together, he sometimes goes there to see his friend it's a place he knows and is welcome at. He said yes he would give me time but that he wasn't happy my DS dad would come here, tbh neither was I, but I was desperate to help my DS. Well after a few days my partner started to turn nasty saying I had thrown him out to move my ex in, which is absolutely not the case, I just wanted my DS dad to be able to come here to try and help DS while in crisis. My Partner then said thst he had hated living with me and that my son made his life a misery as he was loud and repetitive, how he had wanted to leave me for months but felt bad, and admitted that in 2023 when things between us were great, that he had been talking to the woman in the phone. I know it was not just talking. We are 43 not 14, his intentions were to sleep with her even if he didn't but I know he did and that's where the viagra came into it.

So we have been apart a month but still talking every day but he is making out that this is all my fault how it's unacceptable I asked him to stay at his friends, I did say to him if he had taken the time to build a relationship with my DS then I could have relied on him and he could have helped but my DS doesn't like him and kind of runs away when he sees him. My DS dad did not end up coming to help, I kind of just got through it on my own, my son is now on medication.
I still am finding myself trying to save this relationship as I feel it is my fault as I asked him to leave for that period.
I don't know what to think.
Was this an unreasonable request? Not that it matters i guess but this is my house, that my partner moved into when we got together, he pays minimal, £400 a month for everything, bills food etc which many on here said was a p* take. But irrelevant of that, should I have handled this another way? It'd like the whole cheating is irrelevant and not anywhere near as bad as me asking him to stay at his friends.

OP posts:
whackamole666 · 05/07/2025 20:35

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/07/2025 17:15

Just bin him off. Its that simple. You've been trying with this for far far too long.
Throw out, block, delete and grow some strength and self esteem. He adds literally nothing to yours or your child's life.

I second this.

Fluffyholeysocks · 05/07/2025 20:40

Ask yourself is your DS getting better now your 'DP' has moved out?
Do you feel.like a weight has been lifted now he's gone?

Poonu · 05/07/2025 20:46

I don't get it.
You have sex willingly with someone that's mean to your son on purpose.

Poonu · 05/07/2025 20:46

Ps. It's not very complicated at all. It's actually rather simple.

Mooseylooseyloo · 05/07/2025 20:47

Fluffyholeysocks · 05/07/2025 20:40

Ask yourself is your DS getting better now your 'DP' has moved out?
Do you feel.like a weight has been lifted now he's gone?

Yes he is getting better. He is on medication but I have told him that he has gone and not coming back and my son doesn't say much as he can only speak a little but he nods so I'm hoping he understands.
I do feel relief for my son, I just have moments of time where I think of the good things he did for me and it hurts that it turned out this way

OP posts:
2025ismybestyear · 05/07/2025 20:48

I stopped reading at he resents your son.

WTH are you still with this twat?

Mooseylooseyloo · 05/07/2025 21:01

2025ismybestyear · 05/07/2025 20:48

I stopped reading at he resents your son.

WTH are you still with this twat?

I know. I was extremely selfish. I think in the beginning I was very vulnerable and he gave off this kind of god complex like he was such a catch and could have so many women and almost like I was Lucky to have him wanting me. As time has gone on, I've seen he is actually a very insecure person, pessimistic and always depressed about something. I do know I am worth more than he is giving, and actually I wanted to leave him for months also but I actually felt bad as he doesn't have his own place or any savings etc, I felt bad. I think I'm too much of an empath.

OP posts:
Away2000 · 05/07/2025 21:05

I would not feel any guilt about asking him to leave. A man that mocked, bullied and upset my child would not be welcome in my home. It must of been awful for your son to have to live with someone that he felt so uncomfortable with that he runs away from him. I understand the loneliness of parenting an autistic child, but what is the point of devoting your life to caring for him if you are then going to bring in men into his home that make him feel unsafe.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/07/2025 21:17

Sorry i started replying to one of your earlier posts then my phone died. You are worthy. But now isn't the right time to meet someone new. As pp have said, do the Freedom Program. You've made steps in the right direction, now is the time to focus on your self worth and personal development in every area. Stop thinking no one will want you because it will make you desperate and needy and predators can smell it a mile off.
Do you mind if I ask how old you are?
Build your own self care program. Focus on your mental health, diet, exercise, psychological strategies, confidence building. Get some hobbies x

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/07/2025 21:18

With you saying you are an empath, did you go through childhood trauma? That can make people super sensitive in this manner of people pleasing.
I probably said it on the old thread and I repeat it all the time everywhere but please watch some Dr Ramani on YouTube

Mooseylooseyloo · 06/07/2025 08:41

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/07/2025 21:17

Sorry i started replying to one of your earlier posts then my phone died. You are worthy. But now isn't the right time to meet someone new. As pp have said, do the Freedom Program. You've made steps in the right direction, now is the time to focus on your self worth and personal development in every area. Stop thinking no one will want you because it will make you desperate and needy and predators can smell it a mile off.
Do you mind if I ask how old you are?
Build your own self care program. Focus on your mental health, diet, exercise, psychological strategies, confidence building. Get some hobbies x

Hi, I'm 43.
I feel like I just attract the same kind of person. When I got with DS's father I was young and dumb and I stayed with him for 14 years and it was full of both mental (mainly) and physical abuse. To this day he still abuses me over messages, doesn't hardly see the DS's maybe 3 times per year and doesn't contribute unless I'm begging. When j met my latest partner, I had known him for 15 years, and knew friends of his and I honestly thought he was a good guy.
I think my issue is I just don't have any boundaries, like none as I think if I implant boundaries then they will just leave. I don't even know how to implement boundaries to be honest. Everything I do is with everyone else in mind other than myself, I would buy the food and make sure everyone else eats even if I go without, that's the way I am with most things in my life, as long as I'm making everyone else happy, even if I'm unhappy then it's fine.

OP posts:
itbemay1 · 06/07/2025 08:47

Keep him out. For you and your DS he is a waster and not a good man

daisychain01 · 06/07/2025 08:55

Stop prioritising your love life over your child.

You were given plenty of good advice on your previous thread which you've ignored so it's pointless investing time in someone who won't help themselves.

TwistedWonder · 06/07/2025 08:59

daisychain01 · 06/07/2025 08:55

Stop prioritising your love life over your child.

You were given plenty of good advice on your previous thread which you've ignored so it's pointless investing time in someone who won't help themselves.

Agree. The responses couldn’t be clearer in the previous thread but she’s completely ignored all of them and put her son through another year of hell rather than be without a bloke.

The fact she says about the amount of money she spent trying to make this cretin happy - pity she didn’t do that for her kids eh! Shows her priorities are fucked.

The whole ‘dick before kids’ mindset of so many women out there depresses and disgusts me

HenDoNot · 06/07/2025 09:31

“I’m an empath”

Oh please! Lol

Except when it comes to your son.

OneNewLeader · 06/07/2025 09:31

We all make mistakes, give yourself some grace and move on. This man is the undoubtedly the biggest mistake of not only your life, but your DS’s.

If you decide to continue with the relationship maybe stop posting about it. Spend some time with a real person, get counselling and hopefully find the strength to move on.

Rallentanda · 06/07/2025 10:48

You said you gave him financial help, or paid for things. You've given him a place to sleep for cheap, and where he can have sex.

This is why he is with you. It's not so much that you're vulnerable, though it's perfectly ok to feel that way (and you need a bit of help with that).

It is entirely that he is useless at being normal, that he can't do life without using, taking, exploiting. He is smart at manipulating people, as you described him in the beginning. But there's something wrong with him that makes him see only his needs and clearly not yours or your boys'.

He will try really hard to get you to feel sorry for him. But why should you? If you feel about yourself that you're a bit soft-hearted or whatever, take responsibility for that and arm yourself. Think of the worst things he ever said to your son. Think of the worst ways he made you feel. Keep control. He's out. That's a huge step. Now keep him out.

ThisChirpyFox · 06/07/2025 10:56

TwistedWonder · 05/07/2025 17:35

OP - as you mentioned you posted before I just read your other thread.

Every response told you he’s an abusive cocklodger taking you for a mug and yet you’ve chosen to not only continue letting him treat you like shit, you’re falling over yourself to find reasons to stay with him despite the fact you know he’s bullying your son and freeloading off of you.

You won’t get any different opinions in this thread - no one is going to say ‘yes he’s a top bloke, apologise to him and let him move back in’

Come on you know that every response told this is correct - he’s a nasty abusive scrounging wanker who saw you coming. Why are you doing this to yourself and your poor poor kids? He’s deliberately destroying your son’s mental health and you’re wondering whether you’re in wrong kicking his scummy arse out?

Give your head a wobble and wake up ffs

Edited

OP didn't listen to advice on previous threads and probably most likely won't now as well.

OP put your children first FFS! He's already out and make it stay that way.

If you let him back and he's a dick to you again then that's on you. But if he causes your dc any stress then that's also on you. You should be putting your kids first before any partner. And you might think you are but you're not!

Weepixie · 06/07/2025 11:02

As the mum of a now adult severely autistic young man who requires round the clock care I can’t get passed what your willing to put your children through for the sake of having a man in your life.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 06/07/2025 11:10

Everything I do is with everyone else in mind other than myself, I would buy the food and make sure everyone else eats even if I go without, that's the way I am with most things in my life, as long as I'm making everyone else happy, even if I'm unhappy then it's fine.

You almost sound proud of being like this, as if it makes you a "good" person.
It really doesn't.
This is nothing to be proud of.

The only people you should put before yourself are your children. For everyone else you have to put yourself before them; you have to look after yourself so that you can do the best for your children.
It is really, really bad to put someone else first, to the detriment of your children.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/07/2025 11:15

You're surely not expecting anyone to tell you to try to save this relationship?

Protect your children. Keep this man away from them.
Block him and throw away his crap.

CandyLeBonBon · 06/07/2025 11:18

You should’ve followed the advice you were given previously. Your DSs lives would be infinitely better, as would yours. Your relationship needs to end, not sure what else you are expecting to hear?

Mooseylooseyloo · 06/07/2025 13:35

He definitely will not be coming back in this house. Now he is out I do feel a small sense of relief but I also feel bad. I know I shouldn't and it's not my problem that he is 43 and has nothing, it's the choices he's made In his life.
I no longer have any hobbies or things that I enjoy, I hope i can rebuild my life.

OP posts:
AnotherGreyMorning · 06/07/2025 13:48

What a truly disgusting man.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 06/07/2025 14:02

Mooseylooseyloo · 06/07/2025 13:35

He definitely will not be coming back in this house. Now he is out I do feel a small sense of relief but I also feel bad. I know I shouldn't and it's not my problem that he is 43 and has nothing, it's the choices he's made In his life.
I no longer have any hobbies or things that I enjoy, I hope i can rebuild my life.

You can rebuild your life.
And do try not to feel sorry for this man. He isn't worth it at all.