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Very Complicated Situation

78 replies

Mooseylooseyloo · 05/07/2025 16:51

Hi All,
I have posted a couple of times last year and I found the answers very helpful in seeing my situation through another perspective. I was told to leave my partner, and I know really it probably would have been the right thing to do but it's difficult as most of you can probably understand. This is long apologies!

My last post was around my partner asking me to take equity of out my house (70k) for him to start property investing and when I said no, he treated me quite cruely.
Anyway fast forward a year.
Things have just been quite rubbish for the last year. I have a 14 year old son with autism and it does complicate my life a little but it has never stopped me and my partner doing stuff together as I have another DS who is 16 and he helps out a lot with his brother. My Partner has always kind of resented my autistic DS and has never built a relationship with him, in fact he has done things that upset my DS like making noises (my DS sometimes makes noises as stimming) it would really upset my DS when my partner would make all these nosies and I told him to stop many times but his reply was "I like making noises, I've been making noises long before him". I found it very immature tbh. There have been many other things so in 2023 I found an open viagra packet, questioned my partner and at first he said he had no idea what it was, then suddenly remembered he had used it when we went away for my birthday. He's never had to use viagra so I found it very strange. Last year I went through his work phone and found a phone number in there with the name "cu**" I quickly took the number out and added in my phone and it was a woman. I dare not contact her as i just didn't want to know. I questioned my partner and he denied he knew who it was. I kind of brused it all under thr carpet. Since then I've found it very difficult to be intimate or show my partner love, as it was constantly in the back of my mind.
So about a month ago, my DS has a bit of a mental breakdown, I had to call the emergency psychiatrist. It was an absolute hell of a week, I had to supervise him 24/7 and hadn't slept for 3 solid days, couldn't eat It was honestly the worst week of my life. My Partner offered no support, in fact he just complained that I wasn't sleeping in the bed with him as I was having to sleep with my DS and tbst i didnt want sex. Well after 4 days I said to my partner that I was going to have to call my DS father and ask him to come and help me as my DS was not responding and I literally could not do this on my own, there was talking of my DS having to be admitted to crisis hospital. There is no way my DS dad and my partner could be in the same house. I asked my partner if he would stay at his friends house for a couple of weeks until I could get DS well again. His friend has a house about 30 mins away thst is empty and my partner used to live there before we were together, he sometimes goes there to see his friend it's a place he knows and is welcome at. He said yes he would give me time but that he wasn't happy my DS dad would come here, tbh neither was I, but I was desperate to help my DS. Well after a few days my partner started to turn nasty saying I had thrown him out to move my ex in, which is absolutely not the case, I just wanted my DS dad to be able to come here to try and help DS while in crisis. My Partner then said thst he had hated living with me and that my son made his life a misery as he was loud and repetitive, how he had wanted to leave me for months but felt bad, and admitted that in 2023 when things between us were great, that he had been talking to the woman in the phone. I know it was not just talking. We are 43 not 14, his intentions were to sleep with her even if he didn't but I know he did and that's where the viagra came into it.

So we have been apart a month but still talking every day but he is making out that this is all my fault how it's unacceptable I asked him to stay at his friends, I did say to him if he had taken the time to build a relationship with my DS then I could have relied on him and he could have helped but my DS doesn't like him and kind of runs away when he sees him. My DS dad did not end up coming to help, I kind of just got through it on my own, my son is now on medication.
I still am finding myself trying to save this relationship as I feel it is my fault as I asked him to leave for that period.
I don't know what to think.
Was this an unreasonable request? Not that it matters i guess but this is my house, that my partner moved into when we got together, he pays minimal, £400 a month for everything, bills food etc which many on here said was a p* take. But irrelevant of that, should I have handled this another way? It'd like the whole cheating is irrelevant and not anywhere near as bad as me asking him to stay at his friends.

OP posts:
whatisheupto · 05/07/2025 18:05

He's using you for housing at a fraction of normal cost and sex.

No doubt he gets lots of other perks thrown in like his dinner cooked, bills paid and laundry done for him.

And meantime he treats your DS like shit.

Please please please do not let him back in. End the relationship. I know this is really hard for you but you need to be tough and find the courage to stand up gor yourself.

No, you absolutely were not unreasonable at all. He was unreasonable because he should have supported and helped you more in the first place.

Mooseylooseyloo · 05/07/2025 18:19

I know I definitely haven't done what is best for my son. I know that, I have been extremely selfish of my own needs of companionship and being a SEN parent can be extremely isolating. I will not have him back here, not under any circumstances. I actually felt like I kind of got my home back when he first went and I was angry but as the weeks have gone on I'm scared of becoming lonely, sounds so stupid as I would say to others it's best to be lonely than in a shit relationship.

I just wanted to know if you thought there was any other way I could have handled thst situation, if asking him to temporarily (at the time) leave so I could concentrate on my son was unacceptable. I would never have him back here, I guess I'm just looking for people to tell me this is not my fault as I'm being made to feel like i caused all of the issues including not showing him any love but how can you show love to someone you suspect has cheated. Today is the first day we have not spoken at all. I think I will get all of hos stuff together over the next week and put it in my garage for him to collect. I don't have any family and only 1 real friend for support and she has her own life so I feel kind of alone.

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FortyElephants · 05/07/2025 18:22

Stop talking to him. He's a horrible cunt and your son deserves better than having him foisted in his life.

TheCurious0range · 05/07/2025 18:23

You've got him out, whatever you do don't let him back in. He's absolutely horrific.

TheCurious0range · 05/07/2025 18:24

Oh and no you were not unreasonable to ask a man who your son is scared of and who refuses to support you, at the worst possible time for your son and for you, to move out.

Outofthemoonlight · 05/07/2025 18:26

You are overthinking this. There are only 2 considerations:

  • what’s best for your son
  • what’s best for you.

start asserting your boundaries and stop accepting shit.

And stop talking to him - he is clearly muddling your brain.

TwistedWonder · 05/07/2025 18:26

Why are you so afraid of being single that you’d rather bankroll an abusive cunt?

neilyoungismyhero · 05/07/2025 18:28

You lost me when you said he was mimicking your son..htf were you still with him after that? It seems he's gone now and that's the way it should stay. He's a pig and a piss taker and with all due respect you need to grow a pair and get rid permanently for the sake of your children.
Unbelievable.

HolidayHattie · 05/07/2025 18:29

I just wanted to know if you thought there was any other way I could have handled thst situation, if asking him to temporarily (at the time) leave so I could concentrate on my son was unacceptable.

You asked him to move out because you needed help with your son and, instead of stepping up, he was making your life harder. He wouldn't have reacted well to your ex coming to help with DS so you had no choice, really. You did the right thing.

He is just trying to make you feel guilty so you will take him back. Don't fall for it.

The Freedom Programme might be good for you.

Hatty65 · 05/07/2025 18:30

Tell him to get his stuff, give him a date it will be on the doorstep and spell out that you do not want to hear from him again. Go out for the day so you are not home when he comes.

Then block him.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/07/2025 18:34

Hatty65 · 05/07/2025 18:30

Tell him to get his stuff, give him a date it will be on the doorstep and spell out that you do not want to hear from him again. Go out for the day so you are not home when he comes.

Then block him.

This. Do not be around when he collects his stuff you are too vulnerable. He will worm his way back in.

If you are lonely, get a dog. Obviously if you can provide a safe home for it and it works for your son. Im not saying this flippantly. The loyalty and love and company they can provide shits all over a lot of men (and women).

Do not go near online dating. You'll be easy pickings for some other dickhead to take advantage of you.

You say you only have one real friend. Well that's a start. Nurture that friendship. Can you get out to a gym or the library for some me time? Join any groups. Get out for long walks. You need to get busy and not mope around looking back with rose tinted glasses.

Loopytiles · 05/07/2025 18:38

Sort yourself out now: far, far better to be lonely than with such a man. Your past actions have been harmful to you and your DC - you can now take this great opportunity to do better.

Stop talking to him. Get his stuff ready to go - garage sounds good - and tell him to collect it by X date. Don’t let him into the house at all.

Rather than focusing on whether you were unreasonable to ask him to move out temporarily, and what he thinks/says, focus on getting rid of his stuff, going no contact, and what to do now for yourself and your DC.

NewsdeskJC · 05/07/2025 18:40

He is bullying your disabled vulnerable child.
Dear lord

Loopytiles · 05/07/2025 18:40

Also, the situation is NOT complicated. He was awful to you and your DC, you didn’t end it, he continued to be awful, he’s now gone and it’s your property so there is no reason to take him back.

Mooseylooseyloo · 05/07/2025 18:41

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 05/07/2025 18:34

This. Do not be around when he collects his stuff you are too vulnerable. He will worm his way back in.

If you are lonely, get a dog. Obviously if you can provide a safe home for it and it works for your son. Im not saying this flippantly. The loyalty and love and company they can provide shits all over a lot of men (and women).

Do not go near online dating. You'll be easy pickings for some other dickhead to take advantage of you.

You say you only have one real friend. Well that's a start. Nurture that friendship. Can you get out to a gym or the library for some me time? Join any groups. Get out for long walks. You need to get busy and not mope around looking back with rose tinted glasses.

I do think I am vulnerable and I was when I got into this relationship, there were so many red flags from the beginning I would be here all day telling you all of the stuff I have done and money I have spent trying to make sure thst man was happy. I was 1 year out of a 14 year relationship when I got with him and i felt very little of myself, that I wasn't worthy. I do feel worthy now as I know I have a lot to give, but I don't feel anyone will want me because of my son. I love my son, and I will take care of him for thr rest of my life it's an honour, but I feel like my life would be enriched if I was sharing it with someone. Thing is after all of this, I don't think i can ever let another man into my home.

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Frostynoman · 05/07/2025 18:43

He is an awful excuse for a man. Manipulative, self centered, can’t take responsibility for his own actions, a mooched from both you and his mate to name but a few.

You write as if you have to have exceptionally good reason for asking him to temporarily leave and I worry he’s been making you behave this way for a very long time and eroding your boundaries and what you feel is acceptable.

He is no partner. At one of the toughest times he needed you for not having sex with him instead of helping you with your son. He’s disgusting. You deserve so very much better and you need to mute this idiot. He likes to be the victim and the sound of his own voice, let him get on with it and enjoy a big sigh of relief that he’s gone from your life.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 05/07/2025 18:50

I just wanted to know if you thought there was any other way I could have handled thst situation, if asking him to temporarily (at the time) leave so I could concentrate on my son was unacceptable.

No it was not "unacceptable".
But even if it was (which it wasn't), it was not nearly as bad as his bullying and cocklodging behaviour has been. Not nearly as bad. No where near. Not even remotely comparable. Not in the same ballpark.

Have a think about why it is so important to you that your behaviour is "acceptable", that you are doing the right thing.
Even when people around you are doing horrible, despicable things.

Why do you have to be "the good one"?

Why do you have to prove to yourself that his criticism of you is incorrect?
His opinions not worthy of your attention.

Uricon2 · 05/07/2025 18:50

Thing is after all of this, I don't think i can ever let another man into my home.

Not something you need to be thinking about at the moment but there are better men out there. I think when you're vulnerable and especially if you have kids it's a matter of taking it very slowly and being a bit cynical, even if it comes hard. Question anything you're not happy with (£400 a month all in? He must be rolling in it now) and don't brush aside the niggles because of "lurve".

I agree the Freedom Programme would be something to look into.

Lovethesparklylights · 05/07/2025 18:52

I think you should be alone for a while and learn to love yourself first.

This is not a complicated situation, you don't make your children live with someone who hates them and mocks them.
He's abusive.
You've done very well to get him out, now keep him out. Drop off all his stuff, block him and breathe a sigh of relief that he's gone.

I'm curious to know what you think is complex about the situation?

Lotsofsnacks · 05/07/2025 18:56

neilyoungismyhero · 05/07/2025 18:28

You lost me when you said he was mimicking your son..htf were you still with him after that? It seems he's gone now and that's the way it should stay. He's a pig and a piss taker and with all due respect you need to grow a pair and get rid permanently for the sake of your children.
Unbelievable.

Agreed! Absolutely disgusting you didnt throw him out there and then!! Shame you are that desperate to be in a relationship, than protecting your DS.

ConstitutionHill · 05/07/2025 19:08

It's not a very complicated situation at all.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 05/07/2025 19:27

@Mooseylooseyloo why are you allowing him to annoy and mimic your poor son???? that is the worst thing possible. you should have kicked out the minute he tried that. your duty is to protect your children and if a child is stuck in your house with a horrible man like this then the poor child's life is a misery!! get rid of that man asap! there will be no enrichment with this man for either you or your sons!

TwistedWonder · 05/07/2025 19:33

FortyElephants · 05/07/2025 18:22

Stop talking to him. He's a horrible cunt and your son deserves better than having him foisted in his life.

It’s so depressing to read thread after thread on here where kids lives are being ruined because the parents who are supposed to protect them prioritise their desperation to have any random lowlife in their bed over them.

thepariscrimefiles · 05/07/2025 20:29

Mooseylooseyloo · 05/07/2025 18:19

I know I definitely haven't done what is best for my son. I know that, I have been extremely selfish of my own needs of companionship and being a SEN parent can be extremely isolating. I will not have him back here, not under any circumstances. I actually felt like I kind of got my home back when he first went and I was angry but as the weeks have gone on I'm scared of becoming lonely, sounds so stupid as I would say to others it's best to be lonely than in a shit relationship.

I just wanted to know if you thought there was any other way I could have handled thst situation, if asking him to temporarily (at the time) leave so I could concentrate on my son was unacceptable. I would never have him back here, I guess I'm just looking for people to tell me this is not my fault as I'm being made to feel like i caused all of the issues including not showing him any love but how can you show love to someone you suspect has cheated. Today is the first day we have not spoken at all. I think I will get all of hos stuff together over the next week and put it in my garage for him to collect. I don't have any family and only 1 real friend for support and she has her own life so I feel kind of alone.

Being alone is preferable to being with an abusive man who mocks and taunts your autistic son.

From what you have written about your partner, I cannot think of one single reason why you would want to be in a relationship with him. He is unkind, he hardly contributes any money towards the household expenses, he tried to make you give him £70k for his business which he obviously would never pay back and he has cheated on you.

He is a hateful disgrace of a man. Change the locks and block him on everything.

looselegs · 05/07/2025 20:34

If any other adult behaved like that towards your son, you'd never put up with it. Yet you're letting your 'partner' do it (inverted commas used because he really isn't ...). He's a toxic, selfish, nasty waste of space, who brings nothing to your life.
You deserve better- life is too short to spend it on someone like him.