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Ex and his incredible rewriting

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gobbl · 15/06/2025 11:54

I received a message from my ex over WA. I thought perhaps he would finally like to spend time with his children. But all he wants is to rewrite everything he has done to avoid time with his children.
he also refers to the buying of tech for our other son who has an offer to study maths at a good RG university and needed up to date MacBook. I had already bought the MacBook and didn’t even expect a contribution from him. I showed him the one I bought and he said he’d send money to my bank ( asked me for details etc) I told him to pay via CMS since I didn’t want to give my bank info. He is on a DEO for refusal to pay and owes a few thousand pounds.
he has cancelled seeing the children’s many times because he went on weekends away and to visit his wife’s family etc. he currently hasn’t seen them since April, before that he saw them in October 2024.
in this long WA not once did he actually request to see the children or arrange a concrete date. It was all about rewriting everything and covering up his cancellations to reassert his narrative that I stop him from seeing his own children
I’m starting to think he is actually insane. I have messages from him stating he can’t see them because he’s too busy and even because I didn’t respond quick enough to his messages. He has no grip on reality. That’s the best excuse I can think of. This is how he texted me, he wrote me a formal letter by text.

Dear gobbi

I hope you and the children are keeping well.

I wanted to reach out and ask when I might be able to resume having the kids over on the weekends, as we did before. I truly miss spending time with them, and I know they benefit from that regular connection too.

I understand you're upset about the delay with the money for Ds’s computer. I’m really sorry if my explanation was unclear—it may not have come across the way I intended. I want to make it clear that I am more than willing to pay for his computer.

What I had tried to suggest was handling the payment through the Child Maintenance system, so that the cost could be deducted from the total amount owed. This would save me around 10%, which the system usually takes as a fee. I realise that might not seem significant from your perspective, but for me—on a very modest wage—it does make a difference.

This would simply require a brief email from you to Child Maintenance, confirming your agreement to offset the amount for the computer. That way, DS can receive it sooner, and we can handle things fairly and efficiently.

I’d also like to gently ask that the children not be affected when there are disagreements between us. I truly believe they deserve consistent time with both of their parents. When autistic ds1 visits, he always enjoys our outings—especially the cinema—and he seems so happy and relaxed having his own space here. And Autistic ds2 clearly misses me deeply; at our last visit, he was so affectionate and clung to me at every chance he had. That kind of bond is so important for his emotional wellbeing.

I know we’ve had our differences, but I hope we can continue to work together in a way that puts the children’s needs and happiness first. They mean everything to both of us.

With kind regards,
exDH (narc)

its crazy making if you allow yourself to get taken in by it

OP posts:
DogsAngels · 15/06/2025 11:57

Aaah. Mind fuckery and gaslighting. I know it well.

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/06/2025 11:59

How old are they? The one going to uni is definitely old enough to arrange seeing ex by himself, the other possibly too.

Theunamedcat · 15/06/2025 12:01

Screenshot his messages cancelling contact and resend them back to him

gobbl · 15/06/2025 12:02

The one going to uni refuses to see him. The other two aren’t really able to, they’re learning disabled. I refuse to arrange contact and I think he would like me to beg just as he wanted me to request and be grateful for child maintenance. He wants me to ask him to see the children so he can refuse and accuse me of not wanting my own children. He is actually mad

OP posts:
gobbl · 15/06/2025 12:04

Theunamedcat · 15/06/2025 12:01

Screenshot his messages cancelling contact and resend them back to him

I will when I have time. Two autistic children, I’m always busy.

OP posts:
Theunamedcat · 15/06/2025 12:04

Also no you don't have to offset anything from child support

MN2025 · 15/06/2025 12:05

That’s definitely been written by chat gpt or another AI platform - he’s fed it words and it’s come up with that.

Theunamedcat · 15/06/2025 12:05

gobbl · 15/06/2025 12:04

I will when I have time. Two autistic children, I’m always busy.

Yeah same I'm lucky they are on minecraft today so I get "some" peace

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 15/06/2025 12:08

Hang on he wants you to tell cms he paid for the computer so they deduct the amount from what he owes so you pay for it and he gets it reduced from what he owes? He's a seriously delusional idiot

DogsAngels · 15/06/2025 12:13

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 15/06/2025 12:08

Hang on he wants you to tell cms he paid for the computer so they deduct the amount from what he owes so you pay for it and he gets it reduced from what he owes? He's a seriously delusional idiot

The total cost of MacBook and iPad/Apple Pencil was actually over £3k. He wanted to pay money directly to me so he can try to,get out of the DOE order. He gave just over £1k which has already been taken off his debt. I'm not too bothered by that. I think what he wants is for me to email CMS and say it's on lieu of regular monthly payments so he doesn't have to have it removed from his bank, poor thing, only earns a lowly salary, can just about afford weekends away and three week holidays every six months. I'm so cruel not doing this. Oh dear

DogsAngels · 15/06/2025 12:13

I know this story so week

DogsAngels · 15/06/2025 12:14

So well...

elodieee · 15/06/2025 12:16

No advice really OP but just wanted to post in solidarity as my exP is the same. I have no idea why they do it, they must believe their own lies to actually put them in writing!

In my case ex had an open invitation to see our child for the first 2 years of their life. The only time I ever refused him to see dc was when he asked last minute and I had a family meal booked. Despite being welcome to see dc, and me putting it in writing on many occasions, he still went months without visits. When he did see dc it was more often than not me doing the running around to facilitate.

When I asked for some stability and a regular contact schedule, he couldn’t even stick to it for a few weeks and cancelled, was busy etc. Fine by me I gave him the chance and have all the evidence.

These days he likes to write me big essays and send them via email, stating all sorts of rubbish like I have prevented him from having a relationship with his child from birth. Probably written by chat gpt Grin

I just roll my eyes and ignore.

I guess it makes them feel better in some way to rewrite history so they aren’t the “bad guy”?

2024onwardsandup · 15/06/2025 12:20

He would have shown that to many people to show how reasonable he is. Awful man.

Grammarninja · 15/06/2025 12:21

Completely infuriating! All my best wishes and support. I'd have an ulcer the size of a stadium having to swallow his nonsense. If you have the energy for it, try to play him at his own game re messages. Come across lovely and reasonable if not a little confused about his actions versus his sentiment about wanting to see the DC/ buying the computer.
An example of type of message:
Re the computer: Thank you so much for offering to buy the computer. Am a little puzzled as I've mentioned that it has already been bought but was very welcoming of your offer of partial reimbursement. It would seem we are talking at cross purposes as I thought I had already suggested you do it through cms. Perhaps I was unclear.

Rhaidimiddim · 15/06/2025 12:23

DogsAngels · 15/06/2025 11:57

Aaah. Mind fuckery and gaslighting. I know it well.

Me too!

(Except that my ex actually believed some of the stuff he made up. Mind fuckery of a different magnitude.)

Gall10 · 15/06/2025 12:23

What does the abbreviation WA stand for?

RentalWoesNotFun · 15/06/2025 12:28

Reply in the same vein. A well crafted letter that references all you want it to.

Rhaidimiddim · 15/06/2025 12:28

Time to have some fun 😃

'Oh, exnarc - so lovely to hear from you! And so timely, too! The DCs have got nothing planned for The Whole Of July and August and would love to spend some time with you! Get your calendar out and let me know which weekends you want to do! I assume you'll be pick them up and drop.them back."

Rhaidimiddim · 15/06/2025 12:30

RentalWoesNotFun · 15/06/2025 12:28

Reply in the same vein. A well crafted letter that references all you want it to.

WhatsApp?

AlertEagle · 15/06/2025 12:37

This is all on purpose, they make you question your own sanity.

RentalWoesNotFun · 15/06/2025 12:39

Rhaidimiddim · 15/06/2025 12:30

WhatsApp?

Yeah why not. If he sent his via whatapp it can be replied to via WhatsApp.

Craft it elsewhere and cut and paste it in.

OP why don’t you put a few sentences together and as AI to draft a reply? It might be quite good!

andfinallyhereweare · 15/06/2025 12:44

The chat gpt hyphen it’s longer than a usual one, you can always spot it!

andweallsingalong · 15/06/2025 12:46

Rhaidimiddim · 15/06/2025 12:28

Time to have some fun 😃

'Oh, exnarc - so lovely to hear from you! And so timely, too! The DCs have got nothing planned for The Whole Of July and August and would love to spend some time with you! Get your calendar out and let me know which weekends you want to do! I assume you'll be pick them up and drop.them back."

This!

He wants you to argue to make you seem unreasonable and give him and excuse to consider not seeing the kids.

Simply suggest a schedule and watch him squirm.

KurtShirty · 15/06/2025 13:08

My ex the same. I believe when people have high levels of narcissism (terribly overused, but we all know some people do meet the criteria) it’s common for them to basically be fantasists about situations in order to protect their own ego. In the end that’s the conclusion I came to, he couldn’t think of himself as someone who was responsible for the absolute shit show of his relationship with his DC so it all had to be projected onto me, regardless of the glaringly clear evidence to the contrary.
I think you can only grey rock!

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