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Help me figure out how to tell him

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TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 11:52

Hello!

Let me preface this by saying I'm fairly sure I have Stockholm Syndrome, at least on a lower level. My friend showed me some stuff on it and yep, it makes sense..

I have been with my partner almost 13 years. We are unmarried, no children. He owns our home outright (inherited).

I moved in quickly, after a few months. I'd lived with him around 6 months, living off of my savings and his. We had fun, we laughed, it was new and exciting. He then said he didn't feel I was bringing enough to the table, that I should get a job, which I did. I have worked ever since (albeit in various positions climbing a ladder I didn't even realise I was on!). I now earn a good wage for my career.

He is (was) self employed. He stopped working with any regularity within a year of me moving in. The work dried up to some extent, he stopped looking, too. He said he would do the house up (it was very old fashioned!).

For the last three years, he's submitted a zero tax return, before that, he earned less than £2k per year (and that was largely the Covid payments he got, which shows how little he earned before that). I have paid 100% of the bills, food, gifts, all and any purchases for a decade.

He's done the bathroom (not 100% there but more or less), and 70% of the living room. He's also created two spaces for himself in two of the 3 bedrooms. One is a workshop, the other is a room for his hobby.

He is now working on his hobby, because he can, and because I have indulged him. He hopes it will make him some money (it's creative). Since 202 it hasn't, but it has cost (me) a lot in equipment, subscriptions, and software.

He sees no need to get any kind of paid employment. Because if he did, that would mean he would spend the weekends working on the house because he'd be out working all week, and then there would be no point being in a relationship.

Lots of this has come to a head for me recently, and I am really resenting it. I really don't enjoy my current position and would like to leave. doing so would mean a pay cut and he's not a fan of that. He'd rather I was unhappy because it supports us both really well.

I have been looking at houses to rent and have found one, and I really want to go for it.

However, I am racked with guilt and uncertainty.

  • Is it better to stay where I am, and keep paying for everything for us both, but not have to worry about paying rent. Though I can't decorate or hang pictures etc., it's very much his house.
  • I'm worried about him and how he will survive. He's in his 50s, so my sane mind knows he'll be ok and that he's not my responsibility, but my attached mind is concerned and putting him before me.
  • I've sacrificed marriage and having children to sustain this relationship for this long. It started with promises that went nowhere, and now I am childless and in my 40s.
  • If I don't praise him he gets angry, if I ask him to consider getting a job, he says that would mean the end of the relationship.

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want to hurt him or throw accusations at him. I've allowed the situation, too.

How should I word it, what shall I say? When? Should I wait until I have somewhere to go, or tell him before? Or should I stay?

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Mixedviewer · 11/06/2025 16:08

Something called beneficial interest if she put alot into the house by rights its half hers and by the sound of his lifestyle he wont be around to long

Dolamroth · 11/06/2025 16:09

Sometimesbetter · 11/06/2025 16:07

Unless you are happy, leave. At least you have worked on your career. Depending on how far you are into your 40s, you may even have a good chance of being able to have a kid (if you want them). Regardless you will have a chance to be happy and free. I left a man child in my mid 30s and it was the best thing I ever did.

The OP has left him now

Mixedviewer · 11/06/2025 16:11

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She has left him already

ToddlerMumma · 11/06/2025 16:14

@Mixedviewerhow is that comment helpful, supportive or kind?
OP I had my 1st child at 41 and next at 43. It is possible to have babies in your 40s

YB1985 · 11/06/2025 16:17

other than not paying rent what are you getting out of this? paying rent on an apartment will be less than all the money you are forking out on this guy. so hes not even bringing that to the table.

you've been with him over 10 years? and you now potentially have a small window to meet someone new and have kids. was he really worth you losing out on all your 30s?

MignonsMorceaux · 11/06/2025 16:18

YB1985 · 11/06/2025 16:17

other than not paying rent what are you getting out of this? paying rent on an apartment will be less than all the money you are forking out on this guy. so hes not even bringing that to the table.

you've been with him over 10 years? and you now potentially have a small window to meet someone new and have kids. was he really worth you losing out on all your 30s?

She is paying rent, and what she gets out of it is freedom from a horrible user.

Mixedviewer · 11/06/2025 16:19

Possible but hard, im 40 with a 4 year old and its hard work im a single dad raising a girl and there alot of things I struggle with if I was 30 it would be easier for sure

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/06/2025 16:23

I've followed your thread and was rooting for you.

Well done!

ElizaMulvil · 11/06/2025 16:24

TomatoSandwiches · 19/05/2025 12:10

You say he's not violent but he very well could be when he realises you have somewhere to go and the gravy train is coming to a stop.
I would get your new home sorted first, move your important things in and leave quietly without telling him, leave a letter but don't tell him face to face, he doesn't deserve that any way and it keeps you safe.

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JoyousTealScroller · 11/06/2025 16:27

Late on this post but
Op, you say you are in your 40s and unhappy with your current situation... leave, you cannot let this happen to you, get your savings and move out find another purpose to live up to, but it has to be something that makes you happy, let's start here:

Like another user said, leave a letter and walk out.
Explain in the letter how you felt and how unhappy you are and explain you wanted happiness.

You work, do whatever makes you happy

If he's struggling he made that choice by not getting a job.
It's his fault he can't provide for himself don't feel sorry for him

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/06/2025 16:29

JoyousTealScroller · 11/06/2025 16:27

Late on this post but
Op, you say you are in your 40s and unhappy with your current situation... leave, you cannot let this happen to you, get your savings and move out find another purpose to live up to, but it has to be something that makes you happy, let's start here:

Like another user said, leave a letter and walk out.
Explain in the letter how you felt and how unhappy you are and explain you wanted happiness.

You work, do whatever makes you happy

If he's struggling he made that choice by not getting a job.
It's his fault he can't provide for himself don't feel sorry for him

RTFT

RightMoveAddict2025 · 11/06/2025 16:31

JoyousTealScroller · 11/06/2025 16:27

Late on this post but
Op, you say you are in your 40s and unhappy with your current situation... leave, you cannot let this happen to you, get your savings and move out find another purpose to live up to, but it has to be something that makes you happy, let's start here:

Like another user said, leave a letter and walk out.
Explain in the letter how you felt and how unhappy you are and explain you wanted happiness.

You work, do whatever makes you happy

If he's struggling he made that choice by not getting a job.
It's his fault he can't provide for himself don't feel sorry for him

The OP has left.

sleepchaser · 11/06/2025 16:32

Blimey, I can't believe that was all he texted back! WTF!

MignonsMorceaux · 11/06/2025 16:41

Lots of commenters here who haven't clocked that a 900- post thread started several weeks ago might have moved on.

Give the OP the most basic courtesy of reading all her posts first. If you don't know how, go away and find out before piling on.

TonTonMacoute · 11/06/2025 16:42

It's a huge step to take but I feel sure, reading your posts, that this is the right thing for you. Its going to feel so strange and of course there is sadness - if there weren't fondness and good parts then it wouldn't have been such a hard decision.

He doesn't sound a bad person at all but just far too needy and dependent, imagine another ten years of that! In a few months or even weeks, you will walk back through your own front door after a day at work and will finally 'get' that feeling of utter freedom.

Good luck OP.

zenas · 11/06/2025 16:44

Do some people not even read the OP's posts?

SHE HAS LEFT AND MOVED TO HER NEW HOME WITHOUT HIM. OK??

momtoboys · 11/06/2025 16:51

Oh, my chara, I am so happy for you! You are incredibly brave and smart!

BrightYellowDaffodil · 11/06/2025 16:54

I've only just seen this thread but I wanted to say I recognise SO MUCH of what you've experienced. The control, the being worn down, the sympathy and understanding for them and why they behave the way they do, the minimising in my head of so much I knew was wrong, blaming myself and feeling I was as bad as him ("I'm no angel"), the feeling of having had enough but not wanting to make the break, the fear of a new life alone and - once the decision was made - wanting nothing more than to go back to security and stability.

There are times when it will be hard OP but my god the RELIEF when you realise that you never have to deal with that shit again. Onwards and upwards, and congratulations on your fabulous new home and life Flowers

Grendel7 · 11/06/2025 17:06

TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 11:52

Hello!

Let me preface this by saying I'm fairly sure I have Stockholm Syndrome, at least on a lower level. My friend showed me some stuff on it and yep, it makes sense..

I have been with my partner almost 13 years. We are unmarried, no children. He owns our home outright (inherited).

I moved in quickly, after a few months. I'd lived with him around 6 months, living off of my savings and his. We had fun, we laughed, it was new and exciting. He then said he didn't feel I was bringing enough to the table, that I should get a job, which I did. I have worked ever since (albeit in various positions climbing a ladder I didn't even realise I was on!). I now earn a good wage for my career.

He is (was) self employed. He stopped working with any regularity within a year of me moving in. The work dried up to some extent, he stopped looking, too. He said he would do the house up (it was very old fashioned!).

For the last three years, he's submitted a zero tax return, before that, he earned less than £2k per year (and that was largely the Covid payments he got, which shows how little he earned before that). I have paid 100% of the bills, food, gifts, all and any purchases for a decade.

He's done the bathroom (not 100% there but more or less), and 70% of the living room. He's also created two spaces for himself in two of the 3 bedrooms. One is a workshop, the other is a room for his hobby.

He is now working on his hobby, because he can, and because I have indulged him. He hopes it will make him some money (it's creative). Since 202 it hasn't, but it has cost (me) a lot in equipment, subscriptions, and software.

He sees no need to get any kind of paid employment. Because if he did, that would mean he would spend the weekends working on the house because he'd be out working all week, and then there would be no point being in a relationship.

Lots of this has come to a head for me recently, and I am really resenting it. I really don't enjoy my current position and would like to leave. doing so would mean a pay cut and he's not a fan of that. He'd rather I was unhappy because it supports us both really well.

I have been looking at houses to rent and have found one, and I really want to go for it.

However, I am racked with guilt and uncertainty.

  • Is it better to stay where I am, and keep paying for everything for us both, but not have to worry about paying rent. Though I can't decorate or hang pictures etc., it's very much his house.
  • I'm worried about him and how he will survive. He's in his 50s, so my sane mind knows he'll be ok and that he's not my responsibility, but my attached mind is concerned and putting him before me.
  • I've sacrificed marriage and having children to sustain this relationship for this long. It started with promises that went nowhere, and now I am childless and in my 40s.
  • If I don't praise him he gets angry, if I ask him to consider getting a job, he says that would mean the end of the relationship.

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want to hurt him or throw accusations at him. I've allowed the situation, too.

How should I word it, what shall I say? When? Should I wait until I have somewhere to go, or tell him before? Or should I stay?

Just leave. Wait til he goes out and go,so he can't stop you. You owe him less than a sneeze,certainly no explanation. He's a sponger and living off you like you you're his mother. No,don't think so. You have given up enough,now it's your chance to have a life!

MoreChocPls · 11/06/2025 17:07

I hope you took everything you paid for!

ForElatedScroller · 11/06/2025 17:07

If you want a life you should leave. It doesn’t matter how or when you tell him. As a friend of mine said: ‘If it doesn’t end badly, it doesn’t end’.

DBD1975 · 11/06/2025 17:19

So OP you give and give and get nothing in return. When respect is no longer being served it is time to leave the table (which for you was roughly about 12 years ago).
If you feel bad, if you feel guilty, if you still have feelings for him, talk to him, give him 6 months to get his act together, if he doesn't then leave.
This way you have been entirely fair and have nothing to feel guilty about (not that you have anyway).
I also guarantee when you leave he will say 'if you were unhappy you should have told me!'. If you give him 6 months to get a job and sort himself out you can leave knowing you did just that.
Also he is only in his fifties trust me he is still employable!
Good luck OP x

MignonsMorceaux · 11/06/2025 17:19

Grendel7 · 11/06/2025 17:06

Just leave. Wait til he goes out and go,so he can't stop you. You owe him less than a sneeze,certainly no explanation. He's a sponger and living off you like you you're his mother. No,don't think so. You have given up enough,now it's your chance to have a life!

Lots of commenters here who haven't clocked that a 900- post thread started several weeks ago might have moved on.

Give the OP the most basic courtesy of reading all her posts first. If you don't know how, go away and find out before piling on.

MignonsMorceaux · 11/06/2025 17:21

DBD1975 · 11/06/2025 17:19

So OP you give and give and get nothing in return. When respect is no longer being served it is time to leave the table (which for you was roughly about 12 years ago).
If you feel bad, if you feel guilty, if you still have feelings for him, talk to him, give him 6 months to get his act together, if he doesn't then leave.
This way you have been entirely fair and have nothing to feel guilty about (not that you have anyway).
I also guarantee when you leave he will say 'if you were unhappy you should have told me!'. If you give him 6 months to get a job and sort himself out you can leave knowing you did just that.
Also he is only in his fifties trust me he is still employable!
Good luck OP x

I also guarantee when you leave he will say 'if you were unhappy you should have told me!'.

I'll bet you £1000 that's not what he says.

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