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Help me figure out how to tell him

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TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 11:52

Hello!

Let me preface this by saying I'm fairly sure I have Stockholm Syndrome, at least on a lower level. My friend showed me some stuff on it and yep, it makes sense..

I have been with my partner almost 13 years. We are unmarried, no children. He owns our home outright (inherited).

I moved in quickly, after a few months. I'd lived with him around 6 months, living off of my savings and his. We had fun, we laughed, it was new and exciting. He then said he didn't feel I was bringing enough to the table, that I should get a job, which I did. I have worked ever since (albeit in various positions climbing a ladder I didn't even realise I was on!). I now earn a good wage for my career.

He is (was) self employed. He stopped working with any regularity within a year of me moving in. The work dried up to some extent, he stopped looking, too. He said he would do the house up (it was very old fashioned!).

For the last three years, he's submitted a zero tax return, before that, he earned less than £2k per year (and that was largely the Covid payments he got, which shows how little he earned before that). I have paid 100% of the bills, food, gifts, all and any purchases for a decade.

He's done the bathroom (not 100% there but more or less), and 70% of the living room. He's also created two spaces for himself in two of the 3 bedrooms. One is a workshop, the other is a room for his hobby.

He is now working on his hobby, because he can, and because I have indulged him. He hopes it will make him some money (it's creative). Since 202 it hasn't, but it has cost (me) a lot in equipment, subscriptions, and software.

He sees no need to get any kind of paid employment. Because if he did, that would mean he would spend the weekends working on the house because he'd be out working all week, and then there would be no point being in a relationship.

Lots of this has come to a head for me recently, and I am really resenting it. I really don't enjoy my current position and would like to leave. doing so would mean a pay cut and he's not a fan of that. He'd rather I was unhappy because it supports us both really well.

I have been looking at houses to rent and have found one, and I really want to go for it.

However, I am racked with guilt and uncertainty.

  • Is it better to stay where I am, and keep paying for everything for us both, but not have to worry about paying rent. Though I can't decorate or hang pictures etc., it's very much his house.
  • I'm worried about him and how he will survive. He's in his 50s, so my sane mind knows he'll be ok and that he's not my responsibility, but my attached mind is concerned and putting him before me.
  • I've sacrificed marriage and having children to sustain this relationship for this long. It started with promises that went nowhere, and now I am childless and in my 40s.
  • If I don't praise him he gets angry, if I ask him to consider getting a job, he says that would mean the end of the relationship.

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want to hurt him or throw accusations at him. I've allowed the situation, too.

How should I word it, what shall I say? When? Should I wait until I have somewhere to go, or tell him before? Or should I stay?

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cordelia16 · 09/06/2025 09:30

You had said he doesn't leave the house without you, so I hope you take his golf outing as a positive sign, in terms of your guilt over leaving him. I know you were worried about his level of dependence on you, but he's a grown man and will be absolutely fine. And it's not your problem anymore.

I'm relieved you're not going back to the house. Best of luck in your new place!

FluentAquaMoose · 09/06/2025 09:39

TwinklingPotato · 09/06/2025 08:40

Hi All.

Well, fate intervened and when I packed my car to leave mum's yesterday, I had a flat tyre! So I'm still here, about to go to the tyre place and get that sorted.

I'm staying again tonight, he's off to play golf so isn't in the slightest bit bothered. So, the move is now tomorrow! I'll drive straight there from here.

Still, the sun is shining, it looks like it's going to be a lovely day, and I'm by the seaside, so we're going to go for a walk along the coastal path and I'm having a decompress day.

Just a thought, have you set up a redirection for your mail. You can tick a box whereby your new address isn't revealed on the application.

Hollietree · 09/06/2025 09:43

Did your Mum let down your tyre while you were asleep last night? 🤭 If so well done Mum haha! Get yourself straight to the new place @TwinklingPotato and never look back.

Mix56 · 09/06/2025 10:02

You didn't mention he goes to play golf. I would have used that opportunity to move out my bigger items, & simply be absent when he came home.

Mix56 · 09/06/2025 10:04

Not necessarily today

Incakewetrust · 09/06/2025 10:15

So glad you stayed at your mums! I’m in the north west (Cheshire) and happy to help in any way if you’re nearby xx

thehistorymum · 09/06/2025 10:32

Have a lovely day! ❤️

ChocolateDigestiveBiscuit · 09/06/2025 10:59

A flat tyre?! That is straight up divine intervention and you were saved by whichever Gods you do or don't believe in. Move on, move forward, and do not go back. You were spared. And I don't buy his cruisy golfing story for one second. I don't buy that he would have remained calm one for one second. And I don't believe your safety will be in the clear for some time. Call me cynical. But the depths of what men will sink to never fail to astound. Better to be paranoid than to be lax. I say this with the loving care and sass of an older sister/ cousin/ aunt. I hope he's some lazy sluggish oaf who really doesn't give a damn and merely shrugs at your decision. But...... be vigilant.

heldinadream · 09/06/2025 10:59

So you literally never have to see him again @TwinklingPotato, is that right?
If so - bloody amazing! So happy for you. 💓

FlameoftheWest · 09/06/2025 11:09

ChocolateDigestiveBiscuit · 09/06/2025 10:59

A flat tyre?! That is straight up divine intervention and you were saved by whichever Gods you do or don't believe in. Move on, move forward, and do not go back. You were spared. And I don't buy his cruisy golfing story for one second. I don't buy that he would have remained calm one for one second. And I don't believe your safety will be in the clear for some time. Call me cynical. But the depths of what men will sink to never fail to astound. Better to be paranoid than to be lax. I say this with the loving care and sass of an older sister/ cousin/ aunt. I hope he's some lazy sluggish oaf who really doesn't give a damn and merely shrugs at your decision. But...... be vigilant.

From experience- 💯 this.

“I would have punctured all 4 of your tyres and “lost” your car keys . “ If you were my child- so you got lucky with just one. “ Bloody kids around here 😂”

obviously, I would have replaced them before anyone gets stressed with me.

Limehawkmoth · 09/06/2025 11:17

TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 12:03

Wow, thank you all so much.

Yes, I had thought to make sure I had somewhere to go. I'm not scared of him, I've been in a physically violent relationship before, he has never been violent.

He is being so calm at the moment. Texting and saying he loves me, holding my hand on the sofa, that kind of thing. I know it's a cycle and it will revert to telling me how much more important his job is, how being creative is so much harder than what I do..

As soon as I say I'm not happy he'll either tell me all the things "we" should change, or he'll tell me to get out.. so I would definitely need somewhere lined up.

Remember, the issue leaving an abusive relationship is not that you can’t see the abuse, it is becuase you are addicted to the “love bombing”.

everything you describe about how your relationship started was love bombing . Moving in quickly, being all over each other for first 6 months. You thought, and still do, thst this is how your realtionship can be forever ….its what you’re still chasing…and every time he does the “I love you” it reinforces that this love bombing is your “normal” and you would be leaving the most perfect of love affairs you’d never find elsewhere

”Hope” sounds such a positive emotion. It isn’t. It’s the insidious little emotion that prevents us making change to difficult decisions. Sure, it is a survival tool..prevents us from suicide when all other exists form terrible situation would involve high risk to life….but it’s a bummer for situations like this where people are chairing the “love” and can’t see the risk of the abusive part of the cycle. “Hoping” things will improve, that his hobby will make money, that he’ll get a job etc etc, putting money into his activities to support that, is inevitable…hope is very powerful. If you cease to hope you are having to make the mental change to either accepting your life will contribute as it is forever, or that you change and move on without him.

and change is scary. It is the unknown. The unknown is fear. Simple.

he is coercively control you and financially abusing you. That’s easy for me to say. Much harder for you to recognise this . You poroblably don’t want to see yourself as victim, it’s humiliating. You’ve also normalised it probably as it’s crept up..like the frog in pan of water - not realise it’s being boiled to death till too late.

if you’re now at a place that you’re seeing “hope” is vanishing that he’ll change, then you HAVE to now prepare yourself for change. The best way to overcome the fear associated with that, is to arm yourself with knowledge. Find out what you can afford in terms of housing, where you’ll live, how you’ll live your life, what it might mean in terms of future career and relationships…find out if you’ve rights to any of property value given it’s been your home for some years. Replace unknown with a vision for your future. A very visual vision. Being able to picture yourself doing these things. Then, imhe, you’ll be able to start to move towards it.

I’ve been there. Divorced at 55 after 30 year marriage, the last 20 years of which he was coercively controlling me, sexually abusing me. I normalised it. Hope held me firmly into the realtionship becuase he had mental illness and I fought hard to help him get “better”. Yep, and he stopped working too ..expected me to provide for him and our kids. It’s only now that I realise I was hooked by the love bombing. Right form the get go at start of our realtionship. Took me 2 years post divorce to actually realise that.

its extrodinary hard to leave these types of relationships. Fear of change holds you back. The addiction to love bombing behaviour which is, by its very nature, what we’d all love all our intimate relationships to be like all the time. You’ve made first step in realising that hope is not enough. That’s brave.

possomblossom · 09/06/2025 12:21

Rooting like crazy for you, OP. Sending you love and positive vibes. The Freedom Programme should be part of your self-love process. Stay safe.

TwinklingPotato · 09/06/2025 12:22

@Mix56 @cordelia16 He hasn't played golf in around 4 years. When he did, it would be when I was at work or at my mum's. He just doesn't like leaving me in the house alone. He will happily go out and about if I'm not there!

@Limehawkmoth I am so sorry you went through that, and so pleased you are out the other side of it. It really helps to read other women's stories - and you were with him for so long, too - it must have been hard to finally leave? And yes, you're right, I am addicted to the love bombing. There is a part of me that still thinks the low, sad, bad times are a phase, that they will pass and we'll be back to that, but we never are.

@FluentAquaMoose Thanks, I don't have any mail that goes there, other than some Donkey Sanctuary bits twice a year. I've updated my addresses with everything else.

It all feels so surreal right now x

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Imbusytodaysorry · 09/06/2025 12:24

@TwinklingPotato i honestly think it sounds like he is hiding something at home .
He didn’t want you in your home alone ? Bloody weird .

FluentAquaMoose · 09/06/2025 12:45

TwinklingPotato · 09/06/2025 12:22

@Mix56 @cordelia16 He hasn't played golf in around 4 years. When he did, it would be when I was at work or at my mum's. He just doesn't like leaving me in the house alone. He will happily go out and about if I'm not there!

@Limehawkmoth I am so sorry you went through that, and so pleased you are out the other side of it. It really helps to read other women's stories - and you were with him for so long, too - it must have been hard to finally leave? And yes, you're right, I am addicted to the love bombing. There is a part of me that still thinks the low, sad, bad times are a phase, that they will pass and we'll be back to that, but we never are.

@FluentAquaMoose Thanks, I don't have any mail that goes there, other than some Donkey Sanctuary bits twice a year. I've updated my addresses with everything else.

It all feels so surreal right now x

You are doing great my lovely. It's a process. You are in a trauma bond situation too, the tie to him, and being addicted to the love bombing. I was and still am even though I know my ex bf raped me - I still find that hard but the police and my counsellor opened my eyes. I know I was only with this guy for 18 months but after being married for 20 years to a controlling narcissist, he offered me and I craved the adoration that I hadn't had for years. I let him take advantage and brushed aside the many red flags until I realised it wasn't right. It's bloody hard to recognise it as an addiction but you can do it sweetie. x

Peach0123 · 09/06/2025 13:20

Imbusytodaysorry · 09/06/2025 12:24

@TwinklingPotato i honestly think it sounds like he is hiding something at home .
He didn’t want you in your home alone ? Bloody weird .

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OP - this! I've thought this all through reading your posts. His 'hobby room' etc it's giving major 🚩🚩

Sounds very much like he is hiding something, not just the control over you as if that not bad enough. I worry for you OP he may think your leaving after finding him out, putting you in more danger than your at risk of currently. This guy sounds really dangerous and there will be so much more to him than you even know. Please don't go back.

Get the Tyre sorted when possible, then back to your new home, rebuild yourself and enjoy your life. You sound like such an amazing person and deserve fulfilling happy life 💐

MiffyPurple · 09/06/2025 13:38

@TwinklingPotato I have just read your whole story, and I am thrilled that you are leaving this person who has done nothing but use you and see you as a cash machine. I'm not actually sure how he can live with himself when he is clearly a controlling sponger. What a prince among men.
I am so looking forward to you having your glass of fizz in your new home!!

zenas · 09/06/2025 13:40

Will he stalk and harass your mother for information as to your whereabouts I wonder? Prepare her for that just in case. He knows where she lives since he has been there already even though it's years ago now.

thedancingclown · 09/06/2025 13:55

OP. Does he have your bank account details written down somewhere? Appreciate you have changed dd/so but it may be worth changing account)s) or at least ensure you have alerts setup. With online banking you should be able to freeze cards/spending etc. but perhaps treat any credit cards as stolen & get new ones.

if you are near a bank today (yep I know) maybe ask, or call them as they will have a game plan in place for these situations.

p.s. agree with pp there is something really dodgy going on in the hobby room if you are not allowed in the house by yourself.

BumpyWinds · 09/06/2025 13:59

I've just read the OP's posts in one go, having not seen this thread until today.

I'm very pleased you've decided to go without telling him OP. The comments about him needing to know where you were with photographic proof and making you remove your fb account, etc, were very concerning to me.

I would be very concerned that he'd take the news of you leaving badly enough to do something awful.

Not the same situation, but when I left my ex-P I moved in to a little one bedroom flat with nothing more than a fold up single camp bed from the 1970s, two of my gran's garden chairs and a borrowed futon from a friend.

I could have stayed with my ex a bit longer, but I was just desperate to get out by that point.

Just going back to the joint account, I'm sure someone has mentioned it but do whatever you can to get taken off of it ASAP. If he deliberately went into an unauthorised overdraft you could find yourself liable for at least half of it, plus any fees.

I know some banks can be a bit troublesome to do this, so it does need some priority.

Good luck OP - I hope you're very happy in your new home!

Delphiniumandlupins · 09/06/2025 14:13

Congratulations. I know you're thinking that you move into your new home tomorrow but you have spent your last night in the old one! Celebrate.

BeesAndCrumpets · 09/06/2025 14:19

RUN

CinnamonTart · 09/06/2025 14:47

@TwinklingPotato how far away is your new house from your old one? Is it in a completely different area?

Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 09/06/2025 14:55

Doesn't hobby room translate as wank pad?

excelledyourself · 09/06/2025 15:32

Some thread. Just wanted to wish you all the best, OP.

Hopefully your thread inspires others in similar situations.

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