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Is weed ADDICTIVE?

123 replies

flubdub · 19/05/2008 15:03

Is it addictive physically (like cigarettes, or heroin) Or is it all in the head?
If someone has smoked it everyday for 15 years (heavily everyday, until the last 12 months where its once a night), and wont stop, are they addicted?

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flubdub · 19/05/2008 15:58
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TheMelodyMaker · 19/05/2008 15:58

Do not let this happen to your family flub.

Me and my brother used to speculate on what daddy's funny box was with the brown stuff in it. He used to sit smoking all night with us in the room. Tosser.

Then when my brother was 13 he gave him a bit to eat. And then smoke. And 20 years later my brother is a depressed and paranoid recluse.

He never introduced me to marijuana, because I was the girl, I suppose. I introduced myself, as teenagers do, and have no problem with the drug itself, or recreational use of most things really, when it truly is recreational.

My father obviously did get bored of it though and moved onto coke, though I realise this is not the norm. I haven't seen him in 7 or 8 years. He will never lay eyes on his grandchild.

Not because he smoked weed but because smoking weed was more important to him than his children.

TheMelodyMaker · 19/05/2008 15:59

cestlavie you're right but I think that's only because it's socially acceptable to have a pint a night. I have certainly depended on alcohol in the past but I didn't get pissed.

lemonstartree · 19/05/2008 16:30

Flubdub

I have been in your position ans I did leave my husband over his weed use. He became a typical addict; lying, stealing (from our household account) aggressive when challenged and ultimately abusive to me and our 3dc.

I HATE weed. I think it destroys families and ruins lives. My dc are older than your an d ds1 would ask me about Daddys 'golden pipe', I hated that he made drug smoking the norm and acted like he didnt care that the kids were around him smoking.

He difinitely put the weed aboive everything in his life.

after he left (or I made him leave) he realised what he had lost. he stopped using, went to NA and has been clean for 9 months. We are having a second chance. If I ever ever find out he s using again I will divorce him without a backward glance.

Come on over to the addicts partners thread!

do CAT me if you wish....

lst x

expatinscotland · 19/05/2008 16:39

'No self respecting dealer of dope/weed would cut it with anything else. Seriously - do people actually believe this? '

Um, yes, beanie. I seriously believe it.

Only because I worked in the US criminal justice system and saw it for myself.

So what, now I'm supposedly stupid for believing something I saw in court?

Shoot me!

Self-respecting dealer?!

LOL!

That is what is stupid, to believe ALL dealers are 'self-respecting'.

TheDevilWearsPenneys · 19/05/2008 16:46

No one who sells bits of weed to their friends would cut it with anyting else, mostly because they don't do any other drugs, plus there's the logistics, I can't see anyone massaging crack into buds of weed , let alone the fact it will be stuff 10 times the price.

Ennough high horsing here. Myself, and at least five of my middle class 'respectable' friends smoke weed, and so do their parents and I'm not scared to say so on a public forum because the police have more to worry about. Let alone the government.

expatinscotland · 19/05/2008 16:49

Well, no, DWP. And I speak as someone who smoked a lot of weed myself and tbh, prefer it to alcohol - I don't do it anymore, of course, because if I got caught growing it or buying it here I could lose my citizenship and be deported for good.

But I wouldn't have bought it from someone I didn't know.

As it was, I didn't buy it, admittedly. Because I grew and friends grew it and then we shared.

Do people consider hash 'weed' here, BTW?

Because when I see weed I mean grass, which is all you can get in the US.

TheDevilWearsPenneys · 19/05/2008 16:53

hash here is brown sticky stuff with god knows what in, weed is a milder version of skunk both of which are just green.

TheDevilWearsPenneys · 19/05/2008 16:54

(God knows what in, meaning how many bits of skin and dust and dirt)

TheDevilWearsPenneys · 19/05/2008 16:55

I think Dope means Coke in america?

expatinscotland · 19/05/2008 16:58

right! thanks for the clarification. i have seen hash, as SILs ex smokes it heavily.

i've seen him make spliffs with it.

but it looks completely different from what i used to use, which was a dried bud and then you pick off the wee leaves and load them into a bong bowl, fire that up as you inhale and fill the chamber with smoke.

no baccy involved.

sometimes you get a bad bud with a lot of little stems and seeds.

but there's nothing like a tight, dried up bud. ooooooo.

expatinscotland · 19/05/2008 16:59

no, dope in America is generally marijuana.

coke is just that.

crack is 'rock'.

crystal meth is sometimes referred to as ice.

heroin of course is smack or junk.

TheDevilWearsPenneys · 19/05/2008 17:01

Sounds like they are smoking resin which is also called hash and looks like, erm, resin. Nasty stuff really.

The real stuff is , as you say, buds of leaves. And now I'll end this for fear of getting arrested.

theBOD · 19/05/2008 17:05

no hash is block resin.
weed is buds etc.
as a regular smoker i would never stop if my OH decided to issue me ultimatums because my habit is in no way a dependent or problematic one. not because i would choose weed over her, more because i couldn't be with someone who tried to control me in such a way. same way i would not expect her to stop drinking alcohol (unless it was clearly a problem) just because i don't agree with alcohol.

flubdub · 19/05/2008 17:05

lemonstartree - i dont have CAT, but would like to talk to someone.

Iv had a shit two years, and feel that this just seems to be the cherry on the top.

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flubdub · 19/05/2008 17:06

theBOD - so you would just let her walk away while you still smoked?

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LadyOfWaffle · 19/05/2008 17:06

It's not physically addictive

LadyOfWaffle · 19/05/2008 17:07

oh darn new PC flipped threads - it's moved on. Sorry!

lemonstartree · 19/05/2008 17:11

e-mail me, [email protected].

will help if I can. Sometimes just egtting it out helps

lst x

cestlavie · 19/05/2008 17:16

Hash(ish) is cannabis resin which is manufactured by the treatment of the leaves and flowers of the cannabis plant which results in a semi-hard block of grey/ brown/ black resin. Weed/ grass are the buds and leaves of the plant itself simply (I think) dried. Resin seems to be more of a European/ North African thing and technically should be stronger and more concentrated than weed but doesn't, in my experience at least, seem to be - probably because, as expat says, the resin ends up being bulked out with other crap in order to push up profitability.

theBOD · 19/05/2008 17:17

probably yes, but i don't want you to focus on the smoking/drug aspect. this would go for most things as i simply could not be in a controlling relationship.
if she said "stop playing football or i'm gone" or "stop eating chocolate" (to use an absolutely ridiculous example) it is not as though i would be choosing football over her or that i love football more than her (although she might argue this), it would be that i find such controlling behaviour unacceptable.
if my smoking weed was a real problem (i smoke maybe once a week) then i would discuss it and seek help or whatever.but to say someone is choosing weed over their wife/family i think is misleading, i'd imagine they are more often than not choosing not to be controlled than choosing their love of a recreational drug. (note i am not talking about serious,dangerous addiction)

barnstaple · 19/05/2008 17:17

I think you need to go a bit easier on your dp. Would you rather he nipped down the pub every night for a swift pint? He has already stopped doing it all day and cut down enormously. Can you not celebrate that? Relationships are about give and take, and he has given quite a lot on this. What have you given, for him?

flubdub · 19/05/2008 17:28

barnstaple - I havnt given anything as such, as I dont smoke (anything) and have maybe a glass of wine a night.
But, I have given a lot emotionally. I helped him fight to see his children, even though he'd cheated on me several times with the childrens mother, and even a year on, the meer though of her reduces me to tears every day.
I stayed with him through, on numerous occasions, hes been, well lets say, very emotional, ifkwim.
Ive been there for him through all his down moments (hes been v depressed after losing both parents, and not being allowed to see his children). Iv had a lot of emotional battering because of all his problems, but have stuck it all out, knowing we'd be ok in the end.
So, barnstaple,you see, Iv put a lot into this.

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flubdub · 19/05/2008 17:32

That includes being left on MANY occasion, with no notice that he'd even left the house, and gone out to the pub, stayed at someones house, and not returned back till the morning, with never once getting in touch with me.

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cestlavie · 19/05/2008 17:35

Flubdub: perhaps, as mentioned earlier, this comes down to him being an inconsiderate twat rather than smoking dope? To be honest, vanishing without warning and cheating on you with another woman kind of makes having a spliff a day pale into insignificance...

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