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Do u have an f off fund

67 replies

worldwidetravel2017 · 29/03/2025 09:19

Do you have an f off fund - to ' enable ' / ' allow ' you to leave a toxic job or toxic relationship ?

OP posts:
Imbusytodaysorry · 29/03/2025 10:38

WelshBookWitch · 29/03/2025 09:30

Yes I did. I used it to escape my abusive marriage. It probably saved my life. When DH was sent to prison for arson of our family home (and emptying the account of the money I had just received from my late mothers estate), I was very glad I did.
I will tell my DDs to do the same. Not necessarily secret from their partners but to always have enough savings in their own name to get out.

Wow! Glad you are all out of that .
Did you get the money back through divorce ?

SuspiciousChipmunk · 29/03/2025 11:13

Yes but only needed for job. I own my own property outright and wouldn’t tolerate a toxic relationship.

LunchtimeNaps · 29/03/2025 11:32

Kind of. DP and I are tenants in common on our joint property with me owning the higher share. I have the different in his share so if it all goes wrong I can just buy him out without a mortgage so mine and my kids lives are not turned upside down trying to find another house to live in.

fileds · 29/03/2025 11:38

Yes i always have had one.
Im also a minimalist so i have nothing to lose if shit hits the fan.

Meadowfinch · 29/03/2025 11:38

Yes, a year's money in an ISA, in case of redundancy or any other issues.

I have needed it twice. Now single. I shouldn't need it again. The house is mine and I'm not planning on moving anyone in, so it can go towards ds' university costs. .

TheHerboriste · 29/03/2025 11:43

SpottedDonkey · 29/03/2025 10:30

Yes. I have > 2 years’ salary in savings. This is my own money which provides me with a degree of financial independence, a safety net and an escape route, should I ever need one.

This financial position is not luck. It is the planned outcome of many years of committed saving and sacrifices (yes, sacrifices; an unfashionable word) by me and me alone, not the result of a windfall or inheritance or parental ‘help’ or a privileged upbringing or anything of the sort.

Well done.

If only all women were so prudent, we wouldn’t hear about so many shitshow relationships.

overthinkersanonnymus · 29/03/2025 11:48

Yep. I saw my mum trapped in a marriage and job that she hated because of how my dad controlled her. I’ll never allow myself to be in that situation.

Cctviswatchingme001 · 29/03/2025 11:55

Yes, my mother always told me to have my own secret savings. I tell my daughters and my son the same thing.

MrsSkylerWhite · 29/03/2025 11:56

No. Husband recently had an inheritance and gave some money to our adult kids and some to me. Said I didn’t need it but he insisted: maybe he’s hinting 🤣

user1471538283 · 29/03/2025 13:08

I didn't as my ex bled me dry and I was completely stuck. Once he'd abandoned us I made a point of having one and my own income just in case.

Everyone should have one. I've made far too many not great decisions based on money. I've told my two that if they don't have the money to come to me.

WelshBookWitch · 29/03/2025 13:25

Imbusytodaysorry · 29/03/2025 10:38

Wow! Glad you are all out of that .
Did you get the money back through divorce ?

Kind of. He never actually paid it back, he was convicted of the theft of it so I have the satisfaction that he has that conviction in his record. I got a marginally larger share of the assets to compensate in part.
I declared the fuck off fund, that was seen as a joint asset. But my inheritance wasn't, and that's what he was convicted of stealing. Mainly because he set fire to the house within three days of me getting it (also having cancelled the insurance). Judge took a very dim view of such appalling behaviour (his words not mine)

Init4thecatz · 29/03/2025 13:32

I remember seeing a Reddit story the other day where a wife had a FOF, and her husband was literally working himself to death. He asked if they should downsize to make things more manageable and she said no (effectively to maintain her FOF and lifestyle at the expense of his health)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1aiz9x8/aitahfornotgivingmyhusbandmyescapemoney/

So i guess the question from me is, how many in here consider it a 100% separate account, never to be divulged/used in the marriage... and how many would dig into it to help out in dire need.

As for 'my' FOF, we have a communal pot, but all the rest is in each other's personal accounts. So basically we both have one, but that's not really the purpose.

Eyeball · 29/03/2025 13:57

I have a grand total of 46p 😭 but I also have salary sacrifice for work, £40 a month x

WearyAuldWumman · 29/03/2025 14:05

I did have. (Now a 65 yr old widow.)

spicemaiden · 29/03/2025 14:07

I’m building one. My great grandmother used to call it ‘rainy day money’

Spitalfieldrose · 29/03/2025 14:09

My Grandmother (married 4 times) gave me on just before my wedding. She said that it was important to have and you never know when you might need it. Thankfully I have never needed it but it’s sitting in an account in case my daughter ever does.

Megifer · 29/03/2025 14:12

Yes. I'm the higher earner and could just about afford to live on my own but I have a decent FoF just in case. He thinks I earn about 7k less than I actually do (and i never tell him about my bonuses) and he sponges off me constantly and he pays for his parents shopping out of the joint account which infuriates me, so I see my FoF as balancing that out.

Heelworkhero · 29/03/2025 14:15

I did in all previous relationships.

Now I am married to DH I have much more disposable income of my own, but feel no need for one. All my savings are transparent and used for the both of us.

worldwidetravel2017 · 29/03/2025 14:26

jade3081 · 29/03/2025 10:33

He’s signed a legal document to say he will live in the house but has no legal claim so we are all good there.

My friend is moving her guy into her house - dya know the name of the form please ?

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jade3081 · 29/03/2025 21:40

worldwidetravel2017 · 29/03/2025 14:26

My friend is moving her guy into her house - dya know the name of the form please ?

The mortgage company provided it and it was signed by me, my partner and the solicitor. I’d get her to speak to her mortgage provider.

alternatively he can sign a cohabitation agreement or a lodger agreement.

Toothicktounderstand · 30/03/2025 05:18

How does this work if married though? Don’t you have to declare it in a divorce?

VoodooQualities · 30/03/2025 07:13

Hell yes. Years and years ago, possibly when I was a teenager, I saw a TV programme which was presented by quite a flamboyant gay black man (in case anyone remembers it too...).

He said - have six months of your salary sitting in savings in case anything goes wrong. I've lived by that ever since and it's especially important for a woman I think. I've been able to leave a man who was no good because of it, plus I easily rode through a redundancy in my late 20s.

I'm teaching it to my children, and I just took my daughter (15) to her first shift at a local cafe yesterday! So proud 🩷

VoodooQualities · 30/03/2025 07:23

Toothicktounderstand · 30/03/2025 05:18

How does this work if married though? Don’t you have to declare it in a divorce?

Yes, but of course before marrying someone you'd take that into account as part of your decision-making process... you'd think anyway. Not happy with the idea? Don't get married then.

Or hide it in cash in a shoebox at your mum's house so he never knows about it. Or buy bitcoins and keep them on a USB stick.

CharSiu · 30/03/2025 07:30

Always had access to a few months full living expenses from a very young adult. Now I am older I have at least a years expenses for rent, food and all bills.

@Toothicktounderstand I have a couple of friends divorcing, all money has to be declared and there is a financial form and it’s the finances being sorted that’s causing some delay. So far the divorces are taking almost 18 months and 6 months. One of my friends has rented a house round the corner and her children are living between the two houses. It’s a lot easier than the friend who is having to share the same space a lot of the week with her STBXH. She does sometimes rent an AirBnB and has been having a lot of weekends away with friends, her adult children have all left home already.

healthybychristmas · 30/03/2025 07:36

worldwidetravel2017 · 29/03/2025 10:23

Legally though i believe if youve lived there together for over 6 months - he could potentially go after it

That's absolutely wrong.