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I contacted his ex, he found out, and now he's disappeared

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Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 14:38

So I found out I was pregnant in December. I'd been seeing the father for about 4 months at the time.

I'm 40, and I really didn't expect this - it was an accident and completely out of the blue.

In the end, after much deliberation and the most extreme stress I've ever had in my life, I had an abortion. I am still struggling with this decision because I wanted to have the baby.

The problem was that I just couldn't rely on him, I didn't know enough about him, he had been pretty cheapskate whilst dating, and he also already had a child in another country who he hadn't seen since she was about 2 months old.

Before I had the abortion, I made the decision of going behind his back and contacting his ex (the mother of his child). He had told me that he desperately wanted to be in his daughters life, he came to the UK to get stable income, he couldn't get a job in his home country (South Africa) and that the mother of his child basically only wanted money and ran off when she found out she was pregnant - there were all sorts of excuses he gave me, him getting screwed over in business, not able to get decent income, the mother not wanting him around etc etc. But this has gone on for 7 years now.

When I did hear back from the ex, she told me a different story. She said she didn't want to be in a relationship with him but she said he could be all in, or all out re the child. He chose to be all in. She invited him to scans (he said she didn't) and he never showed up (twice), she told him that she wasn't tolerating it and because he was going through financial hardship, she said please get in touch when your priorities are straight. She paid for all her medical expenses alone. She let him know when their daughter was born. He came to see her but apparently could not a) make it to most of the agreed meetings or b) pay his half of the childcare due to his personal circumstances. He eventually stopped coming.

I have sympathy for him as i know he had a hard time, but is is now 7 YEARS later. It just didn't make sense to me listening to only his side of the story.

I had the abortion because I didn't want to be abandoned myself. Shortly after I did, maternity pay at my job was wacked up to 5 months full pay and it broke my heart, prior to that it was statutory. I am struggling to cope with this.

Despite knowing the situation, I stayed with him. I encouraged him to build a relationship with the mother of his child, I wanted them to have a good relationship because it would show me that he was worth having faith in. I wanted to be pregnant again and after my abortion, I didn't care this time if I was on my own. I think that is my own fault for not dealing with the grief. I don't know.
He found out that I was speaking to her on Valentines Day, she had wanted to be friends as we got on so well, she was supportive after my abortion when he was not there for me. She has backed off from me now he knows. He texted her to tell her to stop speaking to me and she said she will speak to whoever she wants.

I haven't heard from him ever since and it's been almost a week now. I keep wanting to say something, the last thing he said was that I had infiltrated his life to destroy the chance he had of being in his daughters life, and his ex said that's bullshit he has no relationship with her, she doesn't even know who he is.

He has just made himself out to be a victim in this whole thing and I have no closure at all. I don't even know how to move on from this or how to deal with all this loss. I also feel guilty and terrible for speaking to his ex behind his back. I felt that I should do it in the circumstances because I needed to know the truth.

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Whosaidthathuh · 20/02/2025 14:40

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Plest · 20/02/2025 14:44

Get rid of him - don’t contact him again. He’s a useless liar.

Kosenrufugirl · 20/02/2025 14:45

I am sorry you found yourself in this situation. You acted perfectly reasonably throughout it all imo.

Kosenrufugirl · 20/02/2025 14:47

Further to the earlier message.... have you got access to counselling at work? You have a lot on your plate and Mumsnet isn't always very supportive..it's a bit of hit and miss imo

Sunat45degrees · 20/02/2025 14:50

You are clearly struggling op but honestly, j think you are better off without him.

UnderHisEeyore · 20/02/2025 14:59

Please just leave him for the (other) birds. He won't change and has lied about his past - you found this out and he still won't accept responsibility. You won't change him. He doesn't view family as important and is making this very clear to you at every stage.

TwistedWonder · 20/02/2025 14:59

When you originally posted about seeing this man, pretty much everyone warned you there were red flags galore and you got very narky and defensive with anyone who didn’t think he was an absolute prince.

Sorry you've learned the hard way but please don’t allow this man back into your life. And please think about speaking to someone professionally. Many abortion services will have details of counsellors who are available.

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 20/02/2025 15:02

The trash took itself out. Delete and block him now.

Tulipsandaffodils · 20/02/2025 15:02

Oh my, this is a sadly and rather grim low bar op.

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/02/2025 15:07

Men who don't like women to talk to each other... always a good sign Hmm

Let him go, OP.

loropianalover · 20/02/2025 15:08

I wanted them to have a good relationship because it would show me that he was worth having faith in.

But he had already proven he was not worth having faith in? You can’t change an adult who does not want to change. Unreliable, a dead beat dad, a cheapskate…

Book in to see your GP and pull any money you can to attend counselling. Abortions are very difficult physically, emotionally, mentally. You need to process it. But you also need to process why you accept this behaviour from men and how you can move past it in order to find the relationship you deserve. Your post was very grim reading for a woman of 40 OP. Your self worth must be very bad, you deserve much much better.

ERthree · 20/02/2025 15:10

Bloody hell you are a mature woman not a teenager, surely you know he is a liar and a useless father. Be glad he has done runner.

Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 15:12

Guys - i take your points but can some of you NOT be arseholes.

It's easy to sit and judge from behind your keyboards, but there are many reasons people don't leave - are we not "women for women" here.

YES - I realise I should have left, but honestly? Shamefully on my part? When you're trying to cover up the grief of an abortion, and you have someone who is nice to you when you see them (at least on face value) and there is some ridiculous fantasy that MAYBE it'll all be ok (even though you're totally kidding yourself and you know it) then to be honest it can take a while to accept.

A lot of us WANT to believe the best in people. It'd be a sad world to live in if we didn't try, but yup, I know. I know. I know. Honestly I f'ing know. It's shit. I concede and agree with you all, but don't be mean about it.

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Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 15:16

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No I don't, and being pregnant then not pregnant has been a massive shock to my system.

I took the pregnancy extremely seriously. If I couldn't have a family with a reliable man, then I didn't want to do it for the sake of a child. The amount of trauma kids go through having parents who are absent or not there is NOT a joke, and it's not my right to force a child to pay that price either. But man... the loss I feel. It is the worst.

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something2say · 20/02/2025 15:20

I'm a bit surprised to hear the tone so far on this thread. This is a desperately upset woman here...

OP firstly I am so sorry for all you have been through. The new relationship itself, hoping it would work, hoping he was a nice guy, the worry when you began thinking things didn't add up - the loss of a baby you'd have liked.

I am with the others tho in that he has gone, and it is for the best, and you are left to pick up the pieces.

I think I would advise being signed off work for a bit, and taking time out to go for long walks by yourself and have a good think.

You can have a baby still perhaps xxx

And you can find a better man. This one didn't tick enough boxes did he, you were having to shoehorn him in rather than him automatically proving he is good enough. So you can find a better, safer love.

I would also write letters to him, goodbye letters. If you are not taking him back, then a goodbye text, then block, and then write your heart out to him to bring closure. Lots of taking care of yourself and lots of hashing it all through to try and make sense of it.

Look after yourself x I'm sorry for your loss x

Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 15:22

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Seriously don't. Being completely bloody honest with myself you have the right to slap me. You do. Legit.

I asked myself why. The abortion is why. I need therapy. I'm exasperated with my f'ing self.

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ForZanyAquaViewer · 20/02/2025 15:39

So, you got an abortion because this man is so crappy and would be a rubbish parent. But you’re staying with the crappy man, because you’re sad about the abortion?

Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 15:41

ForZanyAquaViewer · 20/02/2025 15:39

So, you got an abortion because this man is so crappy and would be a rubbish parent. But you’re staying with the crappy man, because you’re sad about the abortion?

I think that the situation has just been such a huge shock and there has been so much grief that I temporarily kidded myself into thinking that it would be ok. I can't explain, people are not straightforward - anyone thinking it's all "straightforward logic" is just either without empathy, has never had anything like this happen themselves or is a robot in my opinion. I show empathy to people when I post, if others can't then that is not my fault.

Not saying for one second though that it means you should not question peoples stupid decisions (Ie - mine).

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category12 · 20/02/2025 15:44

I'm sorry op.

I think what you need to do now is draw a line and let him go.

Maybe you could look at sperm donation if you want to try for a baby again? I think you and any potential child would be better off going it alone than trying to make something work with him.

Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 15:45

I honestly have removed him. I PROMISE.

I swear on my cats life. And I love my cat.

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1smallhamsterfoot · 20/02/2025 15:45

All you can do now is grieve and block him completely. Don't try and get knocked up by him again, I know you're considering it.

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Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 15:41

I think that the situation has just been such a huge shock and there has been so much grief that I temporarily kidded myself into thinking that it would be ok. I can't explain, people are not straightforward - anyone thinking it's all "straightforward logic" is just either without empathy, has never had anything like this happen themselves or is a robot in my opinion. I show empathy to people when I post, if others can't then that is not my fault.

Not saying for one second though that it means you should not question peoples stupid decisions (Ie - mine).

I’ve read all your threads. You’ve had plenty of kindness and empathy. It really doesn’t seem to have helped. You appear to be locked into a self destructive spiral.

Going ‘I can't explain, people are not straightforward’ appears be your preferred way to avoid dealing with that? I’m sorry that you’re in this horrible position, but you have the power to stop making poor decisions. You can end this now.

And, yes. If therapy is available to you, it’s a great idea. I had grief counselling after a miscarriage that I found very helpful.

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