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I contacted his ex, he found out, and now he's disappeared

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Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 14:38

So I found out I was pregnant in December. I'd been seeing the father for about 4 months at the time.

I'm 40, and I really didn't expect this - it was an accident and completely out of the blue.

In the end, after much deliberation and the most extreme stress I've ever had in my life, I had an abortion. I am still struggling with this decision because I wanted to have the baby.

The problem was that I just couldn't rely on him, I didn't know enough about him, he had been pretty cheapskate whilst dating, and he also already had a child in another country who he hadn't seen since she was about 2 months old.

Before I had the abortion, I made the decision of going behind his back and contacting his ex (the mother of his child). He had told me that he desperately wanted to be in his daughters life, he came to the UK to get stable income, he couldn't get a job in his home country (South Africa) and that the mother of his child basically only wanted money and ran off when she found out she was pregnant - there were all sorts of excuses he gave me, him getting screwed over in business, not able to get decent income, the mother not wanting him around etc etc. But this has gone on for 7 years now.

When I did hear back from the ex, she told me a different story. She said she didn't want to be in a relationship with him but she said he could be all in, or all out re the child. He chose to be all in. She invited him to scans (he said she didn't) and he never showed up (twice), she told him that she wasn't tolerating it and because he was going through financial hardship, she said please get in touch when your priorities are straight. She paid for all her medical expenses alone. She let him know when their daughter was born. He came to see her but apparently could not a) make it to most of the agreed meetings or b) pay his half of the childcare due to his personal circumstances. He eventually stopped coming.

I have sympathy for him as i know he had a hard time, but is is now 7 YEARS later. It just didn't make sense to me listening to only his side of the story.

I had the abortion because I didn't want to be abandoned myself. Shortly after I did, maternity pay at my job was wacked up to 5 months full pay and it broke my heart, prior to that it was statutory. I am struggling to cope with this.

Despite knowing the situation, I stayed with him. I encouraged him to build a relationship with the mother of his child, I wanted them to have a good relationship because it would show me that he was worth having faith in. I wanted to be pregnant again and after my abortion, I didn't care this time if I was on my own. I think that is my own fault for not dealing with the grief. I don't know.
He found out that I was speaking to her on Valentines Day, she had wanted to be friends as we got on so well, she was supportive after my abortion when he was not there for me. She has backed off from me now he knows. He texted her to tell her to stop speaking to me and she said she will speak to whoever she wants.

I haven't heard from him ever since and it's been almost a week now. I keep wanting to say something, the last thing he said was that I had infiltrated his life to destroy the chance he had of being in his daughters life, and his ex said that's bullshit he has no relationship with her, she doesn't even know who he is.

He has just made himself out to be a victim in this whole thing and I have no closure at all. I don't even know how to move on from this or how to deal with all this loss. I also feel guilty and terrible for speaking to his ex behind his back. I felt that I should do it in the circumstances because I needed to know the truth.

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Tartanboots · 20/02/2025 15:47

He's angry with you because you found out about his lies about being shut out of his kid's life.
You've done nothing wrong at all. You're bound to feel sad. I think closure is a bit of a myth though, you just have to get on with things really if you can, and eventually it won't matter.

Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 15:54

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Eh, no. I’m not. But, as you like.

Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 15:56

1smallhamsterfoot · 20/02/2025 15:45

All you can do now is grieve and block him completely. Don't try and get knocked up by him again, I know you're considering it.

You know what you are right, I was thinking I could do it alone. I am so ashamed - i've signed up for counselling. Stuff like this does mad things to you. It's bloody shameful. But yeah. I'm past it, I'm going to go the route of a donor once I've had a few months of getting over this. I don't want a man in my life anymore to be honest. They're just trouble.

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Delphiniumandlupins · 20/02/2025 16:22

You've made some bad decisions but you've made some good ones too. You contacted his ex because, at some level, you knew his stories were lies. You decided not to continue with the pregnancy because you knew he would be a rubbish parent and you didn't want to raise a child alone. You have now accepted he will never be any help or support to you and, in fact, a relationship with him is unhealthy for you. You are going to try to access counselling to address your grief about the termination. Take time to heal, don't rush into any life-altering choices.

martinisforeveryone · 20/02/2025 16:24

I haven't read any of your previous threads @Chaoticgarden but for what it's worth you've done the right thing both in finding out the truth about this man and in not having his baby without support. You made the best decision you could, with the information you had at the time. None of us can do more than that. You have got closure in my opinion because you have both sides of his story and know who you believe. Judge him not by his words, but by his actions.

Now is the time to focus on nothing but healing and getting your head straight. Do seek out appropriate counselling and make sure you're truly in a good space before even considering becoming pregnant again: it's a stressful time, so are the early days of baby rearing, not to mention the rest of your lives 😁and you'll need to have put all this behind you and start over.

Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 16:25

Last two posters - you're both right. I appreciate your comments, they are spot on. I intend to follow your advice.

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Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 16:42

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This is true, but no, I am not trying to stop myself. I have fuck all to say that wouldn't be vile.

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Yeah of course but what's the point?
Like seriously what IS the point? He's cut me off because he lied and he knows it. Best leave it that way!

In the meantime i just got news my house has sold - so I guess when one door closes, another opens so woohoo. Happy ending.

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myplace · 20/02/2025 16:53

You have a cat. Far better than a boyfriend. Cheaper too.

you'll be ok. Congratulations on the house sale, start of a new chapter.

block the bloke, delete his number. Makes it much easier.

category12 · 20/02/2025 16:58

Good news about the house. A fresh start for you.

I suppose we can't see the cat 🐱🐈

Snorlaxo · 20/02/2025 16:58

He’s done you a massive favour because you clearly couldn’t end things- block him and start dealing with the trauma so that you can live the rest of your life. You don’t need closure- he’s a liar and shouldn’t father any more kids or be in relationships.

Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 17:03

A photograph of my cat and her reaction to my terrible decisions is attached.

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Chaoticgarden · 20/02/2025 17:03

Sorry - just tried again

I contacted his ex, he found out, and now he's disappeared
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category12 · 20/02/2025 17:05

Fantastic cat 😂😍

OneWaryCat · 20/02/2025 17:20

omfg that is the best cat ever. Screw the man. You don't need him. You will heal. It will take time but you got this. Chin up xx

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 20/02/2025 17:22

OP I have read your previous threads and you have been through a lot in the last two years in particular.
Your confidence was probably already low due to an awful ex, and other posts show that things with your own family can get challenging.
So you have met this man at a difficult time. He made absolutely minimal effort at the beginning of your relationship, he lives with his mum, and now you know all about the way he has treated his ex and his daughter.
The abortion sounds like a truly awful experience. But please take some time now. Don’t jump at trying to have another baby. There was a reason you didn’t feel it was the right time to have a baby then, and it’s probably even worse now.
Your house sale has gone through. You have a great career by the sounds of it. You have so much going for you.
I am no therapist, but you need one. Give yourself the gift of knowing yourself and why you make the choices you do. I am not judging, just speaking from experience! Looking for validation from others, whether it’s family members or men, thinking poorly of yourself, you need to put a stop to it.
You can only do that with help, and making the decision to access help.
Any decent man would never have treated you this way.
You are good enough, and you have the resources within yourself, to treat yourself the way you deserve.
Be fully in your own. Just you. Spend time with people who like you doing things you enjoy. Find a therapist to work with. Try new things. Make new friends.
If you decide to have a child then, you will have one with a stable, happy, confident mother. Do it now and it’s not fair on the child.
You are a really, bright capable woman who is clearly very loving. 40 is a turning point for many women - embrace it.

Wonderi · 20/02/2025 17:41

I couldn’t be with a man who was in contact with my ex behind my back.

Cut contact with both him and his ex and get some therapy to deal with your grief of the abortion.

Focus on yourself (and cat) instead of focusing on this man, his ex and their child.
You deserve love and attention too.

diddl · 20/02/2025 17:42

I didn't want to be abandoned myself. Shortly after I did, maternity pay at my job was wacked up to 5 months full pay and it broke my heart, prior to that it was statutory. I am struggling to cope with this.

But you knew you couldn't be a family with him so the mat pay is immaterial.

2025willbemytime · 20/02/2025 17:45

Having a termination was the right thing to do. Knowingly having a child who won't have a father in these circumstances is pretty awful.

This is about why you accepted his behaviour, not why he behaves as he does. That's the question for therapy.

pikkumyy77 · 20/02/2025 17:55

How poor must your world be in true friends and compassionate people to think that this unreliable wanker mouthing a few platitudes constitutes any kind of significant care and investment in you? That is where people get confused.

Stop! Stop romanticizing and fantasizing that this absolute wen of a human: improvident, careless, indifferent to the women he fucks and the children he spawns could somehow be Your white knight.

You can only hurt yourself. Why keep sticking your hand back in the rubbish bin to pull out a meal that spoiled days ago? You found out everything you needed to know from his ex. There is no going back if you aren’t delusional.

Bibi12 · 20/02/2025 18:36

Did you post before? I think I remember your post.

He is not a partner or father material. Children bring more complications then you can imagine - arranging and paying for childcare, sick days, possible SEN or health problems. It seems like you've made a right decision in difficult and uncertain circumstances that you had at the time.

Abortion can have a huge effect emotionally, physically and hormonally. If I was you I would focus on healing and taking care of yourself. Leave this man out of your head space and just focus on you and your future.

TagSplashMaverick · 20/02/2025 20:59

Oh OP, I remember your threads. I cannot believe you stayed with him after all that. 💔

You won’t see it, but he’s not worth your grief. He’s a substandard man. Time to block and move on now.