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Expectations of a new date on Valentine's Day

80 replies

Annteeta · 14/02/2025 18:24

I've been seeing this guy but just for a couple of weeks. I've not even heard from him today - Valentine's Day. Is that acceptable? I would have expected at least a message.

OP posts:
Coconutter24 · 14/02/2025 21:16

Annteeta · 14/02/2025 18:42

He only needs to say something like "you're sweet" or "thinking of you on v day" ffs it's not a massive commitment, just a human to human acknowledgement.

He doesn’t need to say any of those especially if he’s not thinking that

Annteeta · 14/02/2025 21:26

Coconutter24 · 14/02/2025 21:16

He doesn’t need to say any of those especially if he’s not thinking that

Yeah but he said more than that to me in person so why not a nice message?

OP posts:
Coconutter24 · 14/02/2025 21:36

Annteeta · 14/02/2025 21:26

Yeah but he said more than that to me in person so why not a nice message?

Maybe he isn’t into Valentine’s Day? Not everyone celebrates it

TipsyJoker · 14/02/2025 21:41

Annteeta · 14/02/2025 21:26

Yeah but he said more than that to me in person so why not a nice message?

Because he was telling you what you wanted to hear to butter you up so he could get a shag in person. That’s why. He’s a dick. Bin him.

gannett · 14/02/2025 22:15

TipsyJoker · 14/02/2025 19:02

You don’t need a man who’s not chasing you. If he’s not, he’s only being nice to you when he sees you so he can keep getting some action from you whilst keeping his options open. If I was seeing a guy I’d expect a happy Valentine’s Day text, or even something a bit cheeky/flirty. If he’s not taken that opportunity, he’s not invested.

They've been seeing each other two whole weeks. Of course he's not invested. No one should be at TWO WEEKS in.

It is very bizarre to expect men to act as though they're head over heels with you when they've only just met you. And even if he was doing all the correct pursuing, an act is all it would be, because no one has real feelings for someone they've been seeing for a fortnight.

If a man had sent me a Valentine's Day message after knowing me for two weeks it would have been a "whoa, coming on strong" red flag and I'd have run a mile.

RedHelenB · 14/02/2025 22:19

Annteeta · 14/02/2025 18:42

He only needs to say something like "you're sweet" or "thinking of you on v day" ffs it's not a massive commitment, just a human to human acknowledgement.

So if you feel that way you say it

HorrorFan81 · 14/02/2025 22:21

Some people dont 'do' Valentines and it might just not have occurred to him. Doesn't mean he's not interested. Been married 14 years and we've never done Valentines, neither of us actually mentioned it today. If I was back in the dating world I wouldn't be thinking about messaging someone because it's Valentines

TwistedWonder · 14/02/2025 22:25

Annteeta · 14/02/2025 18:42

He only needs to say something like "you're sweet" or "thinking of you on v day" ffs it's not a massive commitment, just a human to human acknowledgement.

So in order to prove he’s into you, he should have sent a cringey cliched message? So why not say that to him if that’s how you feel?

Honestly it’s overthinking about someone you’ve known a few weeks and by what you’ve posted you’re not actually dating properly anyway

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 14/02/2025 22:28

OP I think people are being harsh. Valentine's Day is an opportunity to show a little romance to someone you have varying degrees of romantic feelings towards. It doesn't have to be outright love and you're not being needy or immature. If I had to guess I'd say he's not sure how to approach it, most valentines things involve 'love' and hearts etc and it can be an awkward thing to navigate when you're seeing someone new. Your feelings are valid but don't overthink his lack of contact.

RubyRedBow · 14/02/2025 23:21

It’s the fact that he hasn’t spoken at all and OP said she’s already taken the lead enough.

How much effort does he actually make without you chasing him?

TipsyJoker · 15/02/2025 10:15

gannett · 14/02/2025 22:15

They've been seeing each other two whole weeks. Of course he's not invested. No one should be at TWO WEEKS in.

It is very bizarre to expect men to act as though they're head over heels with you when they've only just met you. And even if he was doing all the correct pursuing, an act is all it would be, because no one has real feelings for someone they've been seeing for a fortnight.

If a man had sent me a Valentine's Day message after knowing me for two weeks it would have been a "whoa, coming on strong" red flag and I'd have run a mile.

They’ve actually known each other for months through mutual friends. And I didn’t say he should act like he’s head over heels either so don’t put words in my mouth. What I said was, he could’ve sent a flirty text. I think you’re being rather dramatic. It’s a perfect opportunity for a man who’s interested to reach out with a fun, jokey text. It costs nothing and takes 2 seconds. If he’s not doing that then he’s obviously not massively interested, which is fine but I wouldn’t waste my time on a man who wasn’t actively interested. You can fine that weird all you like. We are allowed to have different opinions.

PennyKitchen · 15/02/2025 10:27

Annteeta · 14/02/2025 18:38

He's very affectionate, communicative, attentive. Maybe he's not that into me, but his actions say otherwise in many ways. I suspect fear of intimacy or attachment problems.

These are the usual excuses when a guy isn't that into you and from personal experience they are never true. There's nothing wrong with him and he doesn't have " issues". He just doesn't want a serious relationship with you. He fancies you enough for an occasional shag but that's it. I couldn't be bothered sweating over whether someone was going to send me a message or not.

PennyKitchen · 15/02/2025 10:30

And if you do suspect fear of intimacy and attachment problems, why on earth do you want to be with him?

1111111111111Bum · 15/02/2025 10:45

If it gives some context, I’m in the talking stage with two guys, both of which sent me a message on Valentine’s Day morning. Nothing crazy or weird, just a little token.

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable.

Munnygirl · 15/02/2025 15:49

Bogginsthe3rd · 14/02/2025 19:07

And how difficult would have it been for OP to do the same?

NEVER chase after a man and am glad to see the OP doing this

Munnygirl · 15/02/2025 15:53

Leafy74 · 14/02/2025 19:24

2 weeks in and she's performance managing him.

That's not standards, that's a red flag.

rubbish. She has standards and is sticking to them

Munnygirl · 15/02/2025 15:55

TipsyJoker · 15/02/2025 10:15

They’ve actually known each other for months through mutual friends. And I didn’t say he should act like he’s head over heels either so don’t put words in my mouth. What I said was, he could’ve sent a flirty text. I think you’re being rather dramatic. It’s a perfect opportunity for a man who’s interested to reach out with a fun, jokey text. It costs nothing and takes 2 seconds. If he’s not doing that then he’s obviously not massively interested, which is fine but I wouldn’t waste my time on a man who wasn’t actively interested. You can fine that weird all you like. We are allowed to have different opinions.

Exactly

Bogginsthe3rd · 15/02/2025 16:12

Munnygirl · 15/02/2025 15:49

NEVER chase after a man and am glad to see the OP doing this

What do gay men do? Both never chase ?

Munnygirl · 15/02/2025 22:08

Bogginsthe3rd · 15/02/2025 16:12

What do gay men do? Both never chase ?

Gay men would NEVER not send a valentine day card

Leafy74 · 15/02/2025 22:16

Munnygirl · 15/02/2025 22:08

Gay men would NEVER not send a valentine day card

That's actually quite an offensive comment.
Gay men.and not all the same and don't all behave in the same way.
That's a bit like saying all lesbians wear dungarees.

I thought we moved on from these 1970s outdated stereotypes.

Munnygirl · 15/02/2025 22:28

Leafy74 · 15/02/2025 22:16

That's actually quite an offensive comment.
Gay men.and not all the same and don't all behave in the same way.
That's a bit like saying all lesbians wear dungarees.

I thought we moved on from these 1970s outdated stereotypes.

Oh don’t be so ridiculous. The gay men I know are house never not send one because they unlike
a lot of men are in tune with their sensitivity and if they like you they like you

Munnygirl · 15/02/2025 22:29

Munnygirl · 15/02/2025 22:28

Oh don’t be so ridiculous. The gay men I know are house never not send one because they unlike
a lot of men are in tune with their sensitivity and if they like you they like you

Would never not send

Leafy74 · 15/02/2025 23:29

Well if the ones you know do it then that's all the proof I need that all gay men do it.

As we all know, there is no higher standard of proof than a Mumsnetter saying 'Well all the ones I know.. "

"

TipsyJoker · 16/02/2025 01:09

Leafy74 · 15/02/2025 23:29

Well if the ones you know do it then that's all the proof I need that all gay men do it.

As we all know, there is no higher standard of proof than a Mumsnetter saying 'Well all the ones I know.. "

"

Calm down Margaret. No need to lose the plot.

Leafy74 · 16/02/2025 05:12

Why not just call.me Karen?
Or tell me to stop.being hysterical?

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