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Partner and mum have fallen out. Considering leaving.

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molrol1 · 26/01/2025 19:03

This is a long one however the context is key, so apologies!

As the title said, my partner of 12 years and my mum have fallen out whilst on a family holiday. He (in my opinion) took his bad mood out on her and behaved very rudely towards her, which she is upset and angry with him for. I was embarrassed by this however he has owned this and is willing to apologise for his behaviour.

During a talk, he maintained that his behaviour was triggered by a wider context of struggling with her general mood and attitude towards him, me and our children (5 and 2) and that I needed to address this with her so we can move forwards.

These are long standing issues he (and to some extent I) have with her. I suspect she is undiagnosed autistic and struggles with depression - she is very expressionless, really struggles with change in routine and plans, can’t really make any small talk at all and is quite cold and stilted generally however the biggest issue is her general irritability, snappiness and passive aggression. There have been multiple times which it has been downright uncomfortable to visit her and my father due to her mood. My partner is really affected by this and feels she often brings his mood down and detracts from events. He feels her behaviour is rude and that she doesn’t like him very much. It is worth mentioning though that my partner is quite sensitive and emotionally reactive so tends to feel these things quite deeply.

However his biggest issue is that she directs this towards our children. This is mostly in the context of her attempting to correct behaviour and discipline them however it is completely over the top - ie: snapping at my 5 year old for dropping a spoon or walking too slowly, harshly telling him to stop crying instead of comforting him and generally being irritated by him.

This is something we have discussed on multiple occasions and I always find myself stuck in the middle of as I can see how (if she is autistic) she finds these things hard but also recognise that my partner comes from a very warm, caring family who would never dream of treating our children that way.

An added complexity is that 4 years ago. My partner became an Alcoholic and suffered a breakdown after experiencing 2 significant family traumas in short time (loss of a parent and a close family members suicide). This actually occurred at my parents house and was very traumatic and his alcoholism really affected our relationship for 18 months afterwards. Thankfully, he is now in a healthier place and whilst he still drinks on occasion he mostly manages it well and no longer uses alcohol as a way to soothe his feelings. We have been fighting to overcome all the shit that goes along with an event like this, and have been in couples counselling for the last 5 months to address the anxiety I feel around him drinking on occasion. My parents never knew the extent of the issue beyond his initial breakdown but obviously this did some damage to their already strained relationship!

So. On holiday my mum is being her usual self (with added eye rolling and sighing whenever we asked her to help with the kids, but then saying she is happy to do it etc) and my partner begins to be affected by it after a few days. He goes out for some beers with another family member and we have an argument when he returns (not because of the drinking, but rather because he was late back for some plans) the argument put my partner into a bad mood and then he was further triggered by my mum later that night, he bit back at her and thus we have the fall out.

I spoke to my mum today to try to explain where my partner was coming from in his response to her (ahead of him texting her) however the conversation went very badly. My mum basically denied that she behaves in this way towards our children and denied that she was rolling her eyes (even though I saw it multiple times) she began shouting that what i was saying was bullshit and I was making her out to be a horrible person. She stated “from now on I’ll just do as I’m told and won’t bother getting involved at all” before hanging up. She also said she feels my partner was in a bad mood because he had been drinking too much over the holiday and was deflecting this onto her.

I feel absolutely wretched about this as mum has a hard life and clearly isn’t happy, I don’t want to be another source of unhappiness for her. I am also upset because I feel like my partner pushed for me to talk to her about her general attitude and I did so despite knowing she probably wouldn’t recognise it or accept it. The statement she made about him drinking too much has resonated as I did feel this way too and the whole thing has just left me feeling deflated and exhausted and with a sense that I am once again dragged along on the rollercoaster ride created by the impact of my partners drinking and his sensitivity and reactiveness to situations. However I am also mindful that my mums reaction was ridiculous and it is reminiscent of many times in my childhood where I felt intense anxiety at the thought of ever upsetting her because of her reactions. So I feel confused, upset, and don’t even know who is right or wrong anymore. I just want to run away and clear my head. sometimes I dream of leaving my partner and having a fresh start but the reality is that I won’t.

OP posts:
RedHelenB · 27/01/2025 05:29

Min133 · 26/01/2025 19:11

I'm on your partners side here. He's trying to protect his family. Her behaviour has caused you major anxiety as a child and as an adult. Not sure why you are considering leaving your partner over this unless there is anything else going on. If I was you I'd go low contact with her for yours and your families sake

He's an alcoholic. Knowing what the mum.is like, why on earth are either of them asking her to help out with the dc. I think if OP got away from both her mum and her partner she may well feel happier and less anxious.

achangeofusername · 27/01/2025 06:29

You need to set clear boundaries for your mum. One being "don't parent my children".

NotaRealHousewife · 27/01/2025 08:50

I would create some distance from your mum, her behaviour sounds toxic and exhausting

Why was your partner drinking when he is an alcoholic? What support is he getting? What is he doing to stop drinking?

I think they both at fault and you are caught in the middle. It's time you created some boundaries and looked after yourself

janeavrilavril · 27/01/2025 17:02

Whatever your mother is or isn't, it seems to me he is deflecting away from the fact he was drinking too much on holiday with all the accompanying mood changes, using her behaviours to shield his own and attempting to engage your mind elsewhere. I could have written a script for this type of manipulation.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 27/01/2025 17:08

It sounds like you've got 2 different issues. If your mum can't see that her behaviour is unacceptable towards her grandchildren, and try to change, I'd go LC.

And, as PPs have said, your husband needs to deal with his issues when the alcohol.

Cm19841 · 27/01/2025 20:42

Sorry I think your mother is unpleasant towards your children and their father has every right to protect them from it. Also, your mother may be a certain way but your husband doesn't have to accept it. He can rightly decide to limit his contact with her. See all the many other threads here when it is about a DIL & MIL.

Don't go on holiday ever again. This free holiday has cost you a lot.

The alcohol issue is still present. This is making you anxious. Do you feel the couples counseling is helping?

Have you had therapy about your own childhood and growing up with this kind of parent?

Hazel665 · 27/01/2025 20:58

I don't go on holiday with my dh and my mother for exactly these reasons. Poor you OP, you're stuck in the middle of them both. Dp wants you to tell her that she's difficult and not nice to the children, and she wants you to tell him that his drinking is a problem, and meanwhile you, the messenger/go between, trying to please everyone, end up being attacked by both.

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