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Verbally abusive husband - don't know what to do

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Honeysuckle19 · 26/01/2025 16:42

I am asking you to please be kind. I know that in the past if someone had said to me what I'm about to say I would tell them to get out ASAP. But, as I am finding, it's not that easy.

I have been with my husband for 15 years. I live seven hours away from my family and have been quite independent since I was 18. When we first got together, we had our daughter quite early on.. not planned but we were in love and things were good. At this point, I was a very successful teacher working my way up through the ranks, and he was self-employed. We lived nearer his family so his mum helped out with her. Then I had to have a routine operation which went wrong, and in which I almost died. I ended up in intensive care and developed multiple long lasting complications. Because of this, I developed severe PTSD and health Anxiety. Bearing in mind we had only been together two years at this point, he did not cope very well with my severe anxiety after the operation. I was a shell of who I used to be. No confidence.. I thought I was dying constantly, I had no trust or faith in the doctors or health services at all, Had panic attacks and couldn't go places, I could barely look after our daughter on my own… he was extremely impatient with me during this time (which lasted about two years). He would berate me, me, take my phone away from me if I was trying to ring my mum on my dad during a panic attack, he would follow me around the house and film me whilst I was having a panic attack, and he would agree with his parents (who hated me) that I was a bad mother. It all came to a head one day when he threw some car keys at my face over something petty, and then ran away with my daughter and took her into his parents house. The police were called and felt it was a domestic matter, so we went through the courts and we both got joint custody. I was extremely lonely during this time - my mum did come up to help support me but she has a full-time job so could not stay. I had friends but I wouldn't open up to them. Months later me and my husband got back together. We cut his parents out of our lives because in my mind they were to blame as much as he was. Yet I took him back… But I really think I was very vulnerable and lonely and felt that to keep my daughter with me, that's what I had to do.

Fast forward 10 years, and we had mostly had quite a nice few years together. He was patient whilst I had time off work to recover, he supported us financially. He was a fun dad to our daughter, and most of the time he kept a lid on his temper. However, looking back I had learnt that I should not rock the boat so I didn't start arguments, I always tried to keep the peace, and I think in a way I was doing this to keep us all together, and I was directing my anger at his family rather than him. After 7 years since the operation (which left me with so many mental and physical complications) I won my case and received compensation. I used a lot of that money to buy us a family home outright - so no mortgage or rent (we'd rented prior to this).

In 2021 we found out I was pregnant with our 'surprise' baby. After my operation which went wrong, they had told me I probably won't be able to have children again so this was an absolute blessing. I absolutely loved the pregnancy and had an amazing elective C-section. I was in control and felt so calm and so at peace. His birth was so healing and I felt amazing.

My confidence was soaring and I finally felt like I could be the mother I always wanted to be in those early years that I missed out on with our daughter due to being so ill. His family did not contact us during this time and only would contact him but did not offer any Congratulations of any sort. A few months after our son was born my husband was weirdly very grumpy and very snappy, I blamed the fact that his mother was asking him if she could meet our baby but only at her house and without me around... to which I obviously refused. So to keep the owace I reached out and allowed her to come over to our house to meet him.
From then on we have tried to rebuild a relationship and although I don't trust her or his family , because I know they hate me (!), I did want my son to know who his grandparents were and he likes seeing them.

3 years ago he proposed. We'd been together 13 years at this point and it made sense and felt natural. However, I ended up paying for the wedding pretty much by myself out of my compensation money. This was around £15,000. He did not offer to pay any of it and if I ever asked him, he would get very very angry. It ruined the whole wedding for me and I still wish we hadn't done it to this day (for several reasons).

We got married in the September (2 years ago) and that Christmas he suddenly started to be really aggressive again. I remember that boxing day he called me an "ugly fat c*t" because he'd cooked a roast beef and I said, don't worry about cooking any cabbage with it… Things have been just getting worse since then. He calls me fat on a daily basis, he screams at me, it's physically intimidating (but hasn't actually hit me), because my name is constantly, because I am a stay at home mum and he goes to work. He now calls me lazy repeatedly. He says I'm a lazy bastard(the house is clean and no one would ever say it isn't), I'm a fat mess, I will die before I'm 45 because I'm not fit like him, I sponge off him... etc. He throws things, is angry all the time, swears etc. All infront of the kids. Our daughter is 15 now and she hears it all, and she comes down and yells back at him... which he can't stand so he calls HER names like "rat" etc. she is now having issues with anxiety and has been leaving lessons because she feels anxious. School are aware of this and of what's going on at home because she has told them, and I am in touch with her head of year.

Last summer. The police arrived at our door at 11:30 pm in the evening. We were all in bed and I had no idea why they were there. They told us that they had had a report of someone hearing him shouting at me and came over to investigate. I was mortified. We live in a lovely area and I love our neighbours who are all decent people.

He actually hadn't been shouting that day, but had shouted the day before, and was slamming doors to outside etc. he was fixated on that point and was yelling at the police saying that I must have rang the police to "stitch him up " .. he was pacing around the house and they obviously took a dislike to him because of his attitude . I was calm (I never shout as I don't what are the children to hear let alone one), but he came storming in and started telling the police that I had hit him once. He was screaming and screaming. "she hit me! She hit me!". Like a child. Everyone just looked at him. The police asked me if I was okay, I said things have been really bad between us but there's not been any physical abuse. They asked him to leave because he was so worked up. He Left the house and ended up being gone for a month because I would not let him back.

During that month, I was really happy and very confident and I had everything worked out and felt really calm. He would continue to see the kids three times a week.. Stupidly I allowed him back to try once more. He gave me assurances that he would not act the same way as he was previously, obviously that didn't last.

In the past year, we have not had any sexual relations at all because I don't want him anywhere near me. Why would I want someone to touch me who calls me fat every single day? He is obsessed with fitness and running and he goes out at least three times a week to do those hobbies, whereas I just stay at home and look after our son and daughter. Our son is three years old and has a potentially life threatening illness which causes hypoglycemia (not diabetes) which is being investigated. This has caused me to really worry about him over the past year especially, yet my husband doesn't seem to be as worried about it and almost sticks his head in the sand and pretends it's not happening.

This means I feel like I have to manage the whole thing which takes a lot of planning because he needs his snacks and meals planned and I have to keep an eye out how much he eats etc. I feel like I'm doing it all alone. My husband still lives his life the way he wants to live.. he goes running three times a week with his running group, plays poker once a week, and comes and goes as he pleases (sometimes I actually prefer that he's not here as its peaceful in the house).

If I go out anywhere, I come home to a complete mess, and I have no energy to even argue with him anymore. He is a good dad in that he is 'fun' with the kids. He often takes them places, he is willing to work to pay for things they might need, but to me he is absolutely awful and speaks to me like utter crap. He has no respect for me anymore, and I know that by allowing him to speak to me the way he does that he has lost all respect for me so he just continues. Everything I say is disregarded. He has an diagnosed ADHD which runs in his family amongst the men (some have been diagnosed but he refuses to speak to anyone about it for himself), and I just find how he acts very unattractive now, because It feels like I have another child to take care of. He is constantly clashing with our daughter and speaking to her like sh*t and she's constantly asking me to kick him out.

Also over the past year I feel like my anxiety symptoms have come back full force. I am experiencing panic attacks again constantly especially when I'm out.I hate going places now,I don't sleep well and I worry sick that my son will die at any moment if I take my eye off the ball for a single second. I can't drive on busy roads anymore, because I panic (I loved driving ) , and I really would rather just stay at home. It really upsets me because I had years and years of feeling good again and I had so much confidence. I just feel like with him constantly shouting at me and calling me names and my son being so poorly, coupled with the fact I have no family here and they're not very good with coming to visit, I am ALONE, and I have no choice but to stay in this Marriage.

He has made it quite clear that if we split up he will go for half of everything. Which I know legally he can, and I know that a lot of people would think that that was entirely fair, but I have no income at the moment (our son is still only a toddler and I want to start part time work when he's at school and hopefully his condition has settled down and is better managed). The house is paid for with my compensation money- we never would have been able to afforded this house otherwise. I have paid for our cars and all of the furniture in the house, most birthdays for the children and presents, and the wedding. I don't have all that much left and what I do have is tied up in bank accounts trying to make some interest (which is not very much due to the current climate).

I am a shell of my former self and I know it's because he is so cruel to me.

I don't want this at all. I am nervous every weekend because he's home. But Im worried that if he left I would have absolutely no one, and relapse into the horrendous anxiety state I was in 12 years ago, and be the worst mother to my son and daughter, and he'd take them away from me.

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Coffeeguru81 · 26/01/2025 16:47

He would go for half of everything?

well given he’s a very high earner and you’re a SAHM, you could just say back to him “go for it!”

ManchesterPie · 26/01/2025 16:47

Your answer is in your first sentence. Get out ASAP. Nothing else to be said.

Honeysuckle19 · 26/01/2025 16:52

ps - sorry for so many typos! I was trying to write this in a rush in the 5 mins my son was playing quietly 🙈

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Wakeywake · 26/01/2025 16:52

He won't get half of everything. Have a chat with a solicitor, it's money well spent, don't just believe ev he says.

AlertCat · 26/01/2025 16:54

Try calling www.rightsofwomen.org.Uk for free legal advice. Then take steps to get your own solicitor and divorce him. In the meantime keep a record of his abuse, particularly when the children are witnesses to it, and also get your documents safe: your birth certificate and your children’s birth certificates; your passports; and your marriage certificate. Also any documents you have about his pay and pensions, and any bank accounts.get them safe out the house somewhere- anywhere.

Don’t trust him.

When you have your ducks lined up kick him out. Definitely don’t leave the house.

Good luck.

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Choconuttolata · 26/01/2025 16:56

You phone Women's Aid.

You work with them to get him out safely.

Your DD is also witnessing the abuse as is your son. They are also victims. Social care will get involved soon as your DD begins to talk to the school about what is going on so do not minimise it. Work with them to get him out. You have the previous Police log as evidence of domestic abuse too.

Move the remaining money into an account in your name only.

He won't get 50%, you have two kids and don't work. He will get ordered to pay maintenance and because the kids need housing and he is abusive the courts will likely grant an occupation order so you and the kids stay in the house.

You do have a choice, the only choice is to stop letting him abuse you and your children and get him out. Letting them and you continue to suffer like this is not an option.

SI85 · 26/01/2025 16:57

Can I ask what parts you are finding difficult regarding leaving? Is there anything in particular that is worrying you that we perhaps might be able to reassure you about? Also, he's not a good dad I'm afraid

Bristolinfeb · 26/01/2025 17:00

Your husband is abusing you and your children. You have the power to stop this.

Weyohweyoh · 26/01/2025 17:01

Even if he did get half of everything (which he won’t), you will be immeasurably happier without this nasty bastard in your life, even if it is financially tougher.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 26/01/2025 17:04

He was very clever deciding after all these years to marry you - as you now owned a house outright with your money from your compensation.
Very clever, as yes he will go for 50% of everything you have bought and paid for.

Get to your GP - sort out your medication for your mental health issues as you have one big fight coming up and you need to be 1000% prepared for this.

username299 · 26/01/2025 17:08

He's very manipulative. He was nice until you married and he had a right to your assets.

He's a seriously nasty piece of work and he's really effecting your daughter. Her mental health is suffering and your relationship is her blueprint for adulthood.

I would contact a domestic abuse organisation and get some support as well as get legal advice. Try to get a solicitor with experience in domestic abuse as I can imagine him dragging you through court to be vindictive.

You can contact Gingerbread for everything to do with single parenting and look at wikivorce and the CABx website for information on divorce.

ScaredOfDinosaurs · 26/01/2025 17:12

He won't get 50% not even close. You need legal advice.

And if anything is stopping you, consider what the outcome of staying will be

He's vile to your daughter. She's telling you the truth. And soon she will be able to vote with her feet. She will judge you very harshly in future if you fail to protect her.

Also consider your son. He's currently being raised to think that women are trash and it's normal to be abusive to them. He isn't going to stay small and cute forever.

Cherry8809 · 26/01/2025 17:16

Honestly, even if he did get half of everything, it’s a small price to pay for the amount of mental and emotional peace you will receive with him being gone.

BelgianBeers · 26/01/2025 17:22

Fort out as soon as possible with evidence of the abuse where possible. He has a pension? That is an asset. He has a good job and you have a short marriage and don’t earn and can evidence that you payed for everything. All of these things help. You need a great lawyer - get recommendations and liberate your life - and your children’s. It is also true that if it took half it would be cheap at the price.

YourWildAmberSloth · 26/01/2025 17:22

He is not verbally abusive, he is verbally, physically and emotionally abusive. You know that you need to leave. Your children are being subjected to the abuse as well, it's not just you - that should be enough to get you moving. You will need to decide at some point, what is more important to you, the prospect of him maybe getting half of everything and things being less comfortable financially, or living in peace, of your daughter not being forced to fight your battles and being abused when she does. I'm not sure what anyone can say to you tbh, you know what you need to do, only you can actually do it - no-one else can do it for you. But don't wait until your daughter decides to save herself and disappears out of both of your lives.

mommatoone · 26/01/2025 17:23

OP I would rather be on my arse financially than put up with this vile abuser.

notatinydancer · 26/01/2025 17:26

You don't have to stay in this marriage. You do have a choice.
Do it for yourself and your kids.

Honeysuckle19 · 26/01/2025 17:34

SI85 · 26/01/2025 16:57

Can I ask what parts you are finding difficult regarding leaving? Is there anything in particular that is worrying you that we perhaps might be able to reassure you about? Also, he's not a good dad I'm afraid

I think it's a few things. If I lived closer to my family then I know I would've been out of this marriage last year. But I feel entirely on my own. My sister (who stayed with her unfaithful husband and sacrificed a lot of her own happiness to stay with him) said to me "you need to think very hard about how to save this marriage - because he will move on very quickly as he's very attractive- and you'll end up watching him and his new girlfriend taking your son every weekend and it'll kill you." Which didn't help me.. ! I also know how awful he is at managing our son's condition, he never makes sure he's eaten enough (he can go into hypoglycemia very easily so we have to feed him regularly and test his blood sugars),and he doesn't even spot the signs when he's poorly. Our son has been in resus twice with this condition and it absolutely terrfies me.

Also, he makes good money and that makes a huge difference as I obviously am a SAHM until our son is at school, and even then I won't make anywhere close to what he earns. Although we have no rent or mortgage now because I bought the house, I know he'll try to take half, and half of what I have left, and I'll be left with very little, whereas he'll have half of that plus his income. It really upsets me that he'd do that to my our family - but he's made it clear he will.

My main worry is I'll go back to how bad I was 13 years ago. I was very ill with the PTSD and the anxiety, and it took me 2 years to get well mentally. I was in no state to take care of our daughter who was a toddler at the time , and it broke me. He knows this. And I sometimes think he's deliberately trying to break me so I end up as bad as I was then, and then he will take our little boy away - which would kill me.

The recent anxiety symptoms that have come back I KNOW are triggered by how he is to me.. and by our sons illness, and it really scares me

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RoastDinnerSmellsNice · 26/01/2025 17:46

OP, you KNOW that your mental health is being affected by staying with this arsehole! The most stupid thing you've ever done was to take him back and marry him, BUT, that's water under the bridge now, and you have to live with the decisions you made. Your DD is telling you that there is NO WAY that she would live with him, and I don't believe at her age that anyone could MAKE her visit him unless she wanted to, which she won't, because she's seen how badly he treats you. You've got rid of him before, albeit you needed the police to make him go, so the next time he starts kicking off, call the police, tell them that he's abusive toward you, and you're frightened of him. Take the advice given on MN, and get rid of him, before he damages your DS, as well as your DD. I promise you that you will NOT regret getting rid of him, and do bear in mind, that if you don't have enough to live on, you will still be entitled to benefits, which when you don't have rent or a mortgage to pay out, are enough to live on. He will also have to pay for his children, so please, stop catastrophizing, pull your finger out, and get shot of this manipulative bastard, who clearly only married you in order to get his hands on your money.

Choconuttolata · 26/01/2025 17:51

Also with your son's condition they would also be careful around how much unsupervised contact he is given if he doesn't have a good track record of managing his condition. Your DD being 15 can just choose not to see him, she has a voice of her own in the family court to state her wishes.

sugarapplelane · 26/01/2025 17:52

Even if you don’t leave for your sake, please leave for your children.

They are going to grow up with the worst role model. Do you want your Son to learn that treating women the way his Father died is ok? Do you want your Daughter to repeat the cycle and end up with an abuser because she sees her Mother being treated this way and thinks it’s his women should be treated.

Please end this for their sake or they will grow up traumatised and will live with their unhappy memories forever. They may even grow to resent you for making them grow up in a deeply horrible home.

BeTwinklyKhakiPanda · 26/01/2025 17:54

You've had a very rough time, but it sounds like you're close to doing what you need to do now. Don't berate yourself for finding it hard to leave, and ignore the callous cows on here who have so little empathy. On average, women have 7 goes at getting out of situations like this, so you're doing well.

Call the national domestic abuse helpline on 08082000247 for support and advice. Someone else mentioned rights of women, who are also very good.

Take care of yourself and your kids as best you can. You're on a difficult path, but one that will lead to a far better future. Well done for starting!

AlertCat · 26/01/2025 17:56

Also, he makes good money and that makes a huge difference as I obviously am a SAHM until our son is at school, and even then I won't make anywhere close to what he earns. Although we have no rent or mortgage now because I bought the house, I know he'll try to take half, and half of what I have left, and I'll be left with very little, whereas he'll have half of that plus his income. It really upsets me that he'd do that to my our family - but he's made it clear he will.

When you speak to a legal advisor, I hope they can reassure you. He might say he can have half but him saying it doesn’t make it true. He has a history (logged with police, and with school if your dd makes a disclosure there) of abuse and you are the primary carer for your dc while he works full time. Please, call the helpline I linked above if you can. It’s free and the women who staff the helplines are all barristers and solicitors. They can give you accurate information. And in any case please take the steps we have advised wrt your documents and Women’s Aid. Or speak to your dd’s school. Someone.

Furthermore he has a responsibility to split HIS half with you and support your children- that includes his pension as you have given yours up to raise his kids. So he is talking out of his arse to frighten you.

Don’t worry about him meeting someone else. And if he can’t be bothered to keep your son safe he won’t bother trying to see him. And your dd won’t want to see him. These are all bridges you can cross later- the important thing is to get him out of your house and out of your life.

neilyoungismyhero · 26/01/2025 18:00

We only get one shot at life don't waste it.
Leave with your children. You'll be ok

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