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I asked husband to ensure place is more presentable before having guests. He took it badly. I don’t know how to react

35 replies

S5291 · 12/01/2025 02:37

Few days ago my husband had his friend over whilst I was at work (on night shift).

Later on, I requested to my husband that when he had guests over can he just make sure the place is a bit more presentable. As in, the clothes I left out to dry were put away (it’s embarrassing that his friend saw my underwears). And the iron was put away where it belongs. As the iron was too hot for me to put away and I had to leave for work. It was also in the middle of the living room.
His friend came after midnight and I know by that point the clothes and iron would have been fine to put away.

When I tried to explain this to my husband, he really took it bad. I quickly reassured him that I was not suggesting he doesn’t tidy up. Instead, he got frustrated.

I further added that I wasn’t asking him to clean the windows, deep clean the house or anything. Again, husband wasn’t getting it. Instead, things just escalated.

I tried to explain that in the past it’s happened when he’s had guests before so clearly there’s a pattern and I wanted to address it. Instead, he said he only wants to focus on this instance as the past is gone. I tried to highlight that it’s clearly something he’s either oblivious to and that’s why I thought we could talk about it. As last time his friend came over, there were shoes right in the middle of the living room which my husband didn’t think to pick up and put to side.

Other examples include:

  • If lid falls on the floor, unless I pick it up, it’ll stay there
  • If the flowers die, unless I throw them away, the vase will still have dead flowers
  • When the clothes are washed, unless I fold them, they’ll stay in the utility room
And I’ve addressed this before that he doesn’t need to wait for me to do it or ask him to do it. He can use his own initiative. (I also work more hours than him)

Back to story: He said the house wasn’t messy. I did highlight that’s because I spend my days off and time before going to work nights (I do 12hr shifts) tidying up that’s why the place is clean and all I’m asking for is certain things for him to put away especially when having guests over.

That’s when things got worse. My husband got angry and said you are a tramp and last time why were the shoes in the middle of the living room? Now I know he’s trying to provoke me.
And he also told me he has been taking photos of my mess to prove that I am a tramp.

These photos he has been collecting for months. I did say he can show those photos to everyone I’m really not bothered. These photos show when I leave my clothes out for a day or two on weeks I’m working 72 hours. But the day I’m off, I have moved those clothes as well as HIS stuff I have tidied up. It’s also ironic that he has NO photos of the mess he makes. Nor has any photos of the amount of times I’ve cleaned up the place. Even till this day I find his mess (such as multiple cigarettes butts under the sofa) but I don’t take any photo.

Anyways going back, I asked him it was important to me especially because the culture (Asian) I’m from people usually associate how clean a place is with the woman. And I spend my time keeping the place clean. I said maybe it’s an insecurity I have. My husband said I don’t care and it’s your insecurity so your problem. I replied that I just would have wanted some support in this as I don’t believe I was asking for a lot. He just start shouting. I said let’s draw a line and if you don’t want to support me then don’t have same expectations from me.

He start shouting more and I just stopped responding. I’m at this point now (there’s a history of arguments and issues between us) where I think what is the point? He doesn’t respect me and never will. He always minimises what I do for the marriage. (His own family say I put in a lot of effort). I don’t ask him for money, I don’t ask him to buy me anything. I manage just fine. All I wanted from him was a loving partner who I bonded with and where we look after each other emotionally at least.

So I’ve just been keeping my distance and not talking much. Am I wrong?

OP posts:
healthybychristmas · 12/01/2025 02:38

I wouldn't stay in a relationship like that. He sounds absolutely horrible and your life must be miserable with him.

Rachmorr57 · 12/01/2025 02:41

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sisisisisisi · 12/01/2025 02:42

Doesn't sound like you have children?
That makes it so much easier never to see the arsehole when you divorce him.

Kikkideerligghter · 12/01/2025 02:43

You aren’t wrong, he’s an arse.

OatFlatWhiteForMePlease · 12/01/2025 02:58

He start shouting more and I just stopped responding. I’m at this point now (there’s a history of arguments and issues between us) where I think what is the point? He doesn’t respect me and never will. He always minimises what I do for the marriage.

Listen to yourself. You are worth more than.

InWalksBarberalla · 12/01/2025 03:00

Is there a reason you need to stay married to this man? He sounds awful.

loveyoutothemoonandtosaturn · 12/01/2025 03:02

Why is he having a friend over after midnight? What sort of hours does he keep? I couldn't be having this, and I wouldn't be having him taking photos of my apparent mess while I'm out working! Get rid OP, you will be much happier without him.

S5291 · 12/01/2025 03:59

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Because I didn’t want his friend to see my underwear.

But I see your point too

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Monty27 · 12/01/2025 04:37

@S5291 I wouldn't be happy with that either. Some people like comfortable surroundings sans the woman's knickers hanging around. Your DP is a lazy, disrespectful arsehole IMHO.
I'd be mortified

Difficultwill · 12/01/2025 04:41

I have never heard of someone being so petty as to take photos of your so called mess. He sounds horrible. Do you need to stay with him? You deserve to be treated better

Donttemptthegods · 12/01/2025 05:59

He sounds hideous. Nothing you’ve said or requested sounds unreasonable.

TacCat49 · 12/01/2025 06:10

If anyone left cigarette butts under my sofa the front door would be hitting them on the arse on his way out.
You are correct; he has absolutely no respect for you.

Summerhillsquare · 12/01/2025 06:21

Well you've answered your own question really, he doesn't respect you and never will.

focuspocus · 12/01/2025 06:25

He's been taking photos to control and shame you with and the shouting at you. For me this relationship would be dead now.

I'm not sure the relevance of not asking him for money? Is that because whilst culturally the expectation is that the house is your responsibility even if you are working and all the finances are his including your spending money? Or are you paying all the household costs for you both without help from him?

MJconfessions · 12/01/2025 06:28

Sorry but he’s taking photos? He gathering evidence to use against you at some point, doesn’t that concern you? Like I think the relationship is over, he’s already working on discrediting you and destroying you

Wallywobbles · 12/01/2025 06:40

So go works less than you and does nothing in the house. Threatens you and escalates fights to make you shut up. What are his good qualities? I'd put money on him being v selfish in bed too. So I doubt it's the sex that's keeping you there.

Kosenrufugirl · 12/01/2025 06:41

My husband is Asian, I work more hours than my husband, I work 12 hours shifts and the house is a mess if I am at work for 2-3 days in a row. I get what you are trying to say. It doesn't sound like you have children. I would consider getting out now. Children bring so much joy but work goes up 10-fold for the woman. Taking photos of the mess is just nasty. However, it might be you don't want a divorce for all sorts of reasons. In this case I would say stop leaving your underwear where it could be easily seen. And stop dictating to your husband to tidy up the place before his friends come over. I used to have arguments with my husband if his sister dropped off unexpectedly and I didn't have the time to tidy up because I was at work. I was so embarrassed to come home to find out she dropped by and the place was a tip. Then I realised the futility of this aproach and I stopped arguing about it. My place is still a mess and hers is pristine. However we are best buddies now because I am making her brother happy. I just let go of all society-induced guilt, I can't be bothered anymore, life is too short. You need to drop your standards of cleanliness or go separate ways I would say. You have zero chance of raising up your husband's standards, men in general don't care about mess.

Kosenrufugirl · 12/01/2025 06:48

Further to the earlier message- one thing I would definitely insist on is that he smokes outside. This is not a good environment if you have children. Never mind the fire hazard. Taking the photos could be the sequence of your criticising him and him trying to defend himself. Still I would insist he deletes them and takes no more. You two really need to talk what's important to both of you. Lots of people on Mumsnet will say dump him. However I appreciate life isn't always that simple so you might have to try to reach some compromise first

Lurkingandlearning · 12/01/2025 06:49

It not unreasonable to want your home to be tidy before guests arrive and not want your underwear hanging where they will be sitting. It’s not unreasonable to ask your OH to tidy your things away if you don’t have time to do it yourself because you are rushing to get to work.

Like @TacCat49 I was alarmed to read about the cigarette butts under your sofa. I can’t imagine how they would get there but my biggest concern would be that they are a fire risk as butts sometimes look extinguished but can smoulder.

CheeseTime · 12/01/2025 06:50

@Kosenrufugirl Too true. I have had to work hard to accept that if anyone is judging the housekeeping standards in a house that I already do the most work in, it’s their problem.

OP do you remind your DH that you do more than him overall? When work inside and outside the home is added up. So any shortfall in standards is a him problem.

Most of my colleagues are S Asian and this sounds very familiar. Fighting generations of expectations of women picking up all the domestic stuff but also being the generation that works. Tell me you don’t have in-laws in the mix too?!

Fag butts under the sofa and late visitors? Doesn’t sound great.

hattie43 · 12/01/2025 06:52

He's a lazy slob .

Eyresandgraces · 12/01/2025 06:56

You don’t ask for anything?
That’s the problem, you're just a housemate who he has sex with.
You need standards of how you expect to be treated. He’s treating you how you treat yourself, like you don’t matter.

lifebow · 12/01/2025 07:03

What a nasty piece of work your husband is and smoking in the house? That's disgusting. Why are you with him?

lifebow · 12/01/2025 07:04

Also won't everything smell because he's smoking in the house? I could not live with this, it's awful.

borntobequiet · 12/01/2025 07:10

All very weird. Why does he have people visiting in the middle of the night?

Leave him. Or kick him out.

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