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WWYD - NC parent asking to meet my DC

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Shefliesonherownwings · 08/01/2025 12:10

I'll try to keep this short but it's a complicated story. I've been NC with my dad for 5 years. I'm an only child and we've always had a very up and down relationship. Growing up he was volatile, shouty, sometimes physical, controlling and suffocating. But could also be very loving and kind and generous. As a I grew up and developed opinions that were different to his, we clashed massively. I've always hated how he treats my mum, and dominates her but they're still married.

5 years ago my DD died suddenly and unexpectedly during labour. Obviously it was devastating and horrific. Unfortunately at a time when everyone around us was trying to make things better, my dad made things worse. I think grief thief is the correct term. Then when I told him how his behaviour had upset me, I got a load of abuse back so I cut contact. I still speak to my mum regularly but rarely see her because of his control.

Over the past year or so his health has worsened significantly and my mum is pretty much his full time carer. He can't really be left on his own for very long. I have thought about reaching out and seeing him given his failing health but then he'll say or do something that makes me realise he's the same old narcissitic selfish man. Today he messaged me directly asking to meet his grandchildren who are 4 and 20 months. His message contains some of the old BS, such as 'don't forget I was a very good father to you', (he wasn't IMO) and 'I ask you to let me see them before it is too late' etc... which doesn't make me want to expose my kids to him. But equally I am wavering because I know he is genuinely pretty unwell and he may not be here much longer and do I want to regret not introducing them? I'm, so torn, I don't know how to manage this. Any advice?

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Jumborollers · 09/01/2025 00:15

Here they come 🙄

MumChp · 09/01/2025 00:23

My parents never met my children. I said no. No regrets.

FantasticButtocks · 09/01/2025 00:50

To be completely honest, I want him to leave me alone.

Your dc are not bargaining chips. If he is a toxic person that you don't want a relationship with, that's completely fair enough, and there is no need for your dc to be used to fulfill his wish. It's because you're scared of him still that you are contemplating giving him what he asks for. It's not in your dc's best interests nor is it in your best interests.

devongirl12 · 09/01/2025 01:11

I'd do it.

If only to avoid feeling guilty when he's gone.

pikkumyy77 · 09/01/2025 01:12

Guilt is the worst reason to do something.

ipredictariot5 · 09/01/2025 01:23

I was minimal contact with my DF but my children did develop a relationship they valued and he tried hard. They are adults now and are glad to have him in their lives and understood my wary relationship with him

H112 · 09/01/2025 01:38

He doesn't deserve to meet them.

Moreinheavenandearth · 09/01/2025 02:05

I think you should slow your children to meet their grandfather. The benefit is giving the children the sense of the complexity of life and for you it will acknowledge this difficult relationship. As you said he wasn’t all bad.

Irridescantshimmmer · 09/01/2025 02:16

Protect your children.

One contact can turn into many more and you don't want your kids minds scarred.

Its bad enough that you went through it.

Don't let an alcoholic be alone with your kids, they are just babies and too vulnerable.

Yellowseat · 09/01/2025 07:30

devongirl12 · 09/01/2025 01:11

I'd do it.

If only to avoid feeling guilty when he's gone.

It is not likely to be guilt she will feel. Guilt is an emotion that says you have done something that doesn’t align with your values. I cannot imagine any decent parent not having the value of protecting your child from toxic people who already harmed you.

The emotion the OP is likely to feel is regret that she didn’t get the type of father she deserved. Then a secondary feeling might be that automatically programmed survival emotion that she didn’t live up to her father’s expectations which is something installed in childhood where we need our parents protection but it is not the same emotion as guilt but it is often confused as being guilt.

ClioMuse · 09/01/2025 08:14

I'm so sorry you lost your dear baby DD OP 💐

Your father sounds very damaged but that doesn't mean you should need to be around him.

Reading your post it reminds me of the behaviour of my estranged parents, though they stormed off after a visit to us causing the estrangement.

It's heading towards ten years of no contact and to be honest I'm glad because my life is more peaceful though I struggle with the 'gap' of not having a loving family.

Out of the blue ds (15) received a 'hoovering' Christmas card from my mother wanting a photo and news from him. DS just said 'I don't know these people and I remember how bonkers they were when they were here' so he just left it.

Frankly when you described how your Dad treated you on the eve of your previous daughter's funeral I was aghast.

Do what's best for you and your DC.

ClioMuse · 09/01/2025 08:16

Apologies - I'm so sorry sorry OP- autocorrect changed precious to previous.

I meant to say your precious daughter 💐

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LookItsMeAgain · 09/01/2025 08:22

My advice is this - you went NC with him for a valid reason. Why would you want to open the door again to the person that made you feel uncomfortable and forced your hand to go NC in the first place?

A leopard doesn’t change its spots.

I feel sorry for your mother as she clearly doesn’t want to know that her husband was not there for her child. Her only child.

Both your father and mother have made their beds - now they must lie in them.

BrokenHipster · 09/01/2025 08:22

It's a myth that you might feel regret at some point if you do not go

Obviously nonsense. She might feel regret, she might feel relieved, she might feel angry or sad or most likely she'll feel a whole mixture of emotions. Ridiculous to suggest it's a "myth", that doesn't even make sense.
None of that makes any difference though. OP you don't want to. Your children won't even remember. He won't be any different.
I think you know your answer already.

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Don't be a dick. The mother is clearly a victim too, and she's still there. No need to make OP feel worse

BellissimoGecko · 09/01/2025 08:28

Sounds like you've made up your mind, OP. Your dad doesn't deserve contact with your dd, you don't want him having contact...

DaisyChain505 · 09/01/2025 08:30

Do not do anything you don’t want to.

just because he’s ill and old doesn’t change what he’s done to you in the past or who he is.

he’s feeling sorry for himself later in life and expects all to be forgotten.

if were you I would say no and not bring your children into this mess.

just because he’s trying to be nice now doesn’t mean he still can’t change back to his old habits.

im sorry for everything you’ve been through but try to focus on your little family and breaking the bad habits of your fathers negative emotional hold on you.

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LookItsMeAgain · 09/01/2025 08:50

@enqmind - I don’t want to derail the OP’s post but I was also coming from the position that if the OP felt under pressure living with this man, it is equally plausible that the mother was too. It was a very different time and women didn’t have the opportunities that women today have in relation to simply upping and leaving in order to protect themselves and their children.

Apologies if my sentiment wasn’t coming across clearly.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/01/2025 08:56

People like OPs dad cannot do relationships at all and need a willing enabler to help them, this person being OPs mother. She had a choice when it came to her husband and she chose him over her child. She has her own reasons for staying with him and she gets what she wants out of their relationship.

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