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Just writing to get my thoughts straight.

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Coralsea123 · 08/01/2025 12:03

Yesterday was an awful day and i just need to write it down to help me understand. Fantastic Christmas with boyfriend, effort put in on both sides, visited both families and made sure we checked in on each other during Xmas events. Honestly couldn't have asked for better.

Anyway, Yesterday bf woke up and gave me a kiss. This is how we normally start the day but he didn't say good morning babe/beautiful which he usually does. I cuddled him but he's full of cold and was coughing a lot. I was getting a bit annoyed so just asked him to cover his mouth when he coughed as he was coughing straight onto me. He didn't acknowledge that I'd spoken so I rolled away slightly so not to get his germs and asked if he'd heard me. He said he had heard but didn't respond because it wasn't a question, just a statement. If it was me, I would have just said oh yeah sorry, didn't realise. Will next time etc.
Little later and I'm getting dressed, there's some posh biscuits over on his bedside table that we got as a Christmas present and I fancied one. I go round to get the packet and he gets there before me, snatching it away. He asked what I was doing, I said I wanted the biscuits and he withheld them asking why. I was annoyed now so replied saying it doesn't matter why, let me have them. He was pulling them further away until I told him. I gave up and went downstairs without one. He's never acted like that before, it was completely out of character. I Felt it was controlling. I mentioned it later and he had a different view of it, insisting that he wanted to know why I wanted the biscuits but that he was not pulling them further away and with holding them.

I had 30 mins or so on my own so we could get over what just happened. Then went to give him a hug and a kiss. Thought it might help and be an olive branch. He gave me a kiss back but the hug was limp like he didn't want to really touch me. Later we head out for the day. I asked if he wanted a kiss in the car and whether he was ok. He said I'm happy to have a kiss if you want. So I gave him a quick kiss. Drove to the shops for 1hr in silence. He wasn't making conversation and I asked why, he just said he has nothing to talk about and nothing to say. Which isn't like us, I generally talk more but he would normally say even generic stuff like 'sat nav says we'll get there at xx time' or 'I'm stopping at the next services if you want anything.'

He knew we're going to a big shopping centre as it had been planned and had said he was still happy to go. Got there, he was hungry. Found a quick food place and he just moaned about how long the queue was. He spent the first 30 mins moaning about how busy it was. So after not speaking the first things he says are moans. Ruins the tone of the day and creates tension. We sit for a drink, again in silence because I've asked him not to moan and he barely looks at me. I end up crying in the middle of the shopping centre, because I hate how he is today. I'm sad, confused and upset. I told him this isn't normal and how we normally act. He insisted we were fine, he was fine and there was nothing wrong. I said I don't feel warmth, cared for or loved. His response to how can he try to show that was 'yeah I'm taking you shopping that will show you care and love!' I told him that does not show love. For me I like physical touch and being close. He knows this, I'm open about this and we've been together a few years so he knows this. I tell him I need him to hold my hand, give me kisses and hugs, touch my back, my hair etc. He does this normally when out and about. I'm not meaning pda's or full make out sessions just a kiss on the head, quick peck and holding hands. We go round the shops for a few hours and none of this happens. Can't even hold my hand.
Get home and the house is freezing so we head straight to bed. He's moaning it's cold so I joke best way to warm up is to share body heat. Just meaning a hug. I get no response from this. Normally he'd be all over me giving me a hug.
I can't take it anymore and ask my he hasn't been talkative or touchy feely all day. He said he wasnt feeling it. I said thats fair enough but then why did you not say when I specifically told you what I need from you to make me feel cared for and loved. You should have told me then because I've been open and honest and still not got what I need from you. I asked why he said he was happy to give me a kiss in the car at the start of the day if he wasn't feeling it and he said ,'I was still happy to give you a kiss if you wanted one. I just wasn't feeling it, I've not been feeling it today.' This confuses me. How can you be happy to do something which is physical and intimate (on the lower end of the scale) if you don't feel it/not feeling it.
This is an issue for me, that he feels this way and hasn't mentioned it. He says I don't need to know. I asked him what has made him feel like this and he says nothing. He still maintains the fact that he's fine/acting normally and we're fine as a couple.
He said, sometimes people need space and I'm not feeling it today. He spends most nights at mine as we are slowly progressing into moving in together. But he still has his house with everything like bed, tv, heating etc so why did he choose not to go to his tonight if that's how he feels. It confuses me and as a result I ask lots of questions to try to understand and gain clarification. But then he says its the Spanish inquisition as I ask too many questions.

Now an update before I post this. He Wakes up this morning as if nothing ever happened and was acting fine. I said what was yesterday all about, it upset me. He said sorry you felt that way. To me he should be apologising for his actions not how I feel. But he didn't think he did anything wrong. I then explained everything he did that made me feel like that and he still said nothing. He didn't look like he cared and it was only when I mentioned accountability and that he said I'm sorry for my actions/words. He didn't feel like he needed to take accountability or apologise because he didn't do anything wrong in his eyes. I had to prompt him so it wasn't a genuine sorry.

I don't know why I'm posting really, just a vent.

OP posts:
Glitchymn1 · 08/01/2025 12:12

Well he’s sick by the sounds of it, sick and irritable.
You sound like you are all over him demanding attention, like a dog/cat. I think he handled it well. I’d have had to get up and go in another room for some peace.

As for the biscuits- it was obvious why you wanted them (to eat of course).

Not sure this is a real post… give the man some space lol! Wait until he’s feeling better.

Dcbjgfdh · 08/01/2025 12:12

If he’s normally not like it I think I would put it down to him being full of the cough and cold. You berated him when he coughed and so it might have made him naturally put up some distance incase he coughed again. People can feel really awful with a cold.
The biscuits thing was strange though. It could have been it was a bit controlling, or misguided teasing. Really hard to say.

CollectedStories · 08/01/2025 12:13

Even reading this was exhausting. Are you very young? How long have you been together? If you're capable of creating this much drama over coughing, biscuits and going to a shopping centre without hair kisses and handholding, I would halt any idea of moving in together. Why not spend time living separately and see whether this relationship is something either of you still want?

Guineapiggiesmalls · 08/01/2025 12:15

CollectedStories · 08/01/2025 12:13

Even reading this was exhausting. Are you very young? How long have you been together? If you're capable of creating this much drama over coughing, biscuits and going to a shopping centre without hair kisses and handholding, I would halt any idea of moving in together. Why not spend time living separately and see whether this relationship is something either of you still want?

Yes, this. I came to ask how old you were? This sounds like a LOT, especially since he’s feeling unwell. I don’t think I’d need 30 minutes to get the posh biscuit non-event…

MaltipooMama · 08/01/2025 12:17

I do agree with some of the other comments, he's sick, irritable and probably just wanted to be left alone! I don't think a shopping centre visit an hour away was a great idea if he really was poorly, and if I were him and unwell I'd have been dreading it since the moment I woke up! In your situation I'd have probably just left him to have the day in bed and said give me a shout if you need anything

shellyleppard · 08/01/2025 12:18

What a lot of drama!!!

pikkumyy77 · 08/01/2025 12:19

This is nuts. It reads like diary of an untreated EUPD.

OhBling · 08/01/2025 12:19

The biscuit thing was weird - are they special biscuits that were given to him? But otherwise, ti sounds to me like he wasn't feeling a 100%, you were having a go at him from the first minute of the day demanding kisses and cuddles, and then whinging that he coughed on you. And you say that you need physical affection and that's important to you, fine, but you seem incredibly needy with it, particlarl yon a day he's not feeling great.

ManHereSorry · 08/01/2025 12:22

Leave the poor bloke alone when he’s ill, and don’t steal his posh biscuits.

username299 · 08/01/2025 12:22

He obviously does care about you because I would have left you in the shopping centre.

"I need you to do this and do this and do this in order to feel loved and you're not doing it all and I need this..."

Then you continued at home as well. Were you whining all day?

CwmYoy · 08/01/2025 12:24

Try not to be such hard work. Poor chap.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 08/01/2025 12:26

He's sick, of course he was going to feel off and in his case he clearly acts differently. You are coming over very needy just over an off day. Very intense.

Karatema · 08/01/2025 12:27

Good grief! My DH and I have been married 40 years, we are both touchy feely but when one of us is ill we'll leave each other alone because they are ill!
One of the first things you said to him is that he shouldn't cough over you; a kiss will pass on germs just as effectively. You can't have your cake and eat it!

Coralsea123 · 08/01/2025 12:29

Ok, we have been together 3 years and we are not young despite how this reads. I am not good at putting my thoughts into words.
I said he had a cough/cold yes but he was not that ill. I understand when you are ill you may act differently and be a little off but he is only coughing when he first wakes up as a result if being laid down all night. He has been out and about with family and friends all week so he was well enough to be out. I did say we didn't need to go shopping and we could go another day or I could just go on my own. He reiterated multiple times be was happy to go.

They weren't his biscuits, they were a join gift so I have as much right to eat one as he did.

Manners cost nothing and just a response to the coughing or if he wasn't in the mood to talk etc he could have just said this. To me it is rude that he didn't acknowledge any issue or tell me why. Communication is important, I can't read his mind on how he feels.

We all have bad days but it isn't fair to take it out on the people closest to you who just want to help and support.

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UghFletcher · 08/01/2025 12:30

Give the man a break he is ill, and you sound way too needy.

Howinthehelldidthishappen · 08/01/2025 12:33

I absolutely could not cope with this amount of over analysing and drama over not a lot.
Everyone is entitled to an off day, especially when they are not feeling 100%. You sound quite demanding.

2025GB · 08/01/2025 12:33

I do think you were over the top at the shopping centre with needing touches and kisses constantly. It sounds like he was moody which might have been because he had a cold/cough. Maybe on another day it all would have been fine. I would find it hard to be with you with your expectations sorry.

username299 · 08/01/2025 12:35

. I am not good at putting my thoughts into words.

Yet from your OP you put your thoughts into words all day. You didn't stop putting your thoughts into words.

He kept telling you that he didn't feel great and you droned on about your never ending needs.

NeighbourHitMyCar · 08/01/2025 12:36

We all have bad days but it isn't fair to take it out on the people closest to you who just want to help and support.

But I'm not even sure what he did that was so wrong other than not kiss you, stroke your hair and the other long list of things that you demand.

Honestly from the first moment he wakes up youre upset as he didn't immediately say 'good morning babe' then moan that he coughed on you (because you were in his space).

You mention all in your post about what you need and how you need to be shown love and how you demand this. Sounds like you don't think much about what he needs and if he's not feeling great then he probably needs some space

northernlight20 · 08/01/2025 12:39

this sounds like hard work, so much fuss about nothing. you are lucky because i would leave you over how needy you are.

CollectedStories · 08/01/2025 12:40

Coralsea123 · 08/01/2025 12:29

Ok, we have been together 3 years and we are not young despite how this reads. I am not good at putting my thoughts into words.
I said he had a cough/cold yes but he was not that ill. I understand when you are ill you may act differently and be a little off but he is only coughing when he first wakes up as a result if being laid down all night. He has been out and about with family and friends all week so he was well enough to be out. I did say we didn't need to go shopping and we could go another day or I could just go on my own. He reiterated multiple times be was happy to go.

They weren't his biscuits, they were a join gift so I have as much right to eat one as he did.

Manners cost nothing and just a response to the coughing or if he wasn't in the mood to talk etc he could have just said this. To me it is rude that he didn't acknowledge any issue or tell me why. Communication is important, I can't read his mind on how he feels.

We all have bad days but it isn't fair to take it out on the people closest to you who just want to help and support.

Maybe think about why several posters assumed you were teenagers, this all sounds so juvenile. Are you normally this highly-strung that a less than optimal wake up involving coughing and an altercation over biscuits requires a half an hour to 'get over', and bringing it up later again, and an 'olive branch', and then bringing it up again for an apology the next day? I mean, the Treaty of Versailles probably involved less drama.

Okgolightly · 08/01/2025 12:40

This was exhausting to read, you sound like hard work. I’d hate someone to be draped all over me needing kisses, hugs and attention at the best of times let alone when I’m feeling ill and have been dragged to a shopping centre 🙄

2025GB · 08/01/2025 12:41

I didn’t know people had relationships like this.

Startinganew32 · 08/01/2025 12:42

Wow, that’s quite something. And after three years as well. He was ill and still came shopping with you ffs. I’d want to veg in bed all day if I was him. You sound incredibly clingy, insecure and demanding. He acted like a knob with the biscuits but maybe he was pushed to it by your behaviour.

EverybodyLovesString · 08/01/2025 12:42

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