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Chatting to female colleague

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kjw82 · 08/01/2025 11:11

I need some advice. 5 years ago my husband had an affair with a work colleague that lasted for 9 months. I found out and he nearly moved out of our family home but decided to stay and we reconciled. He started a new job and has been there for a year now. However he's started text conversations with someone, on WhatsApp when not at work and then on the online chat function when at work. I only know because I've been snooping. It's all innocent jokey stuff but I'm finding it very uncomfortable. I'm sure this is how his first affair started. I have found it very hard to forgive and trust him again, I could never forgive another affair. I'm not sure if I should ignore it and see what happens or if I should confront him (but I also don't want him to know that I've been snooping around), any advice would be greatfully received as I don't feel I can talk to friends or family as they've all forgiven him and I don't want to churn up all those bad feelings again.

OP posts:
Morningsky · 08/01/2025 11:31

You say when he had his previous affair that he almost moved out but decided to stay: it sounds as though he was calling the shots. What did he do at that point to change his behaviour : did he show remorse, did he work on your marriage?

Given his previous form for infidelity I think you should challenge him on his interaction with this woman colleague. Because he should be doing everything possible to reassure you that he is trustworthy and obviously he is not.

Bittenonce · 08/01/2025 12:20

Yes, that's how work affairs start.
Sorry I can't think of any easy answer: Say nothing, and it will just gnaw away at you, you'll keep checking his messages until something changes one way or another. Challenge him, and then after the row / apologies / explanations / whatever - you'll never know if he's just hiding his messages better.
I'd be tempted to say nothing - right now it is innocent (ish), and just check periodically. If suddenly the WhatsApp chats disappear or devices become locked and passwords change - then you'll know.

MounjaroOnMyMind · 08/01/2025 12:21

He enjoyed the kick of his last affair and he hasn't waited long to experience it again.

What's your situation regarding children, housing, work etc like?

pikkumyy77 · 08/01/2025 12:24

I would make plans to leave. He did not put in the work to heal the first breach of trust. You need to save yourself.

GreyCat344 · 08/01/2025 12:28

The same thing happened to me with my husband messaging a woman from work on WhatsApp turned out he was then meeting her in hotels and leaving work early! If you have that gut feeling leave this was also the 2nd time he did this! It’s been absolutely gut wrenching.

justworking · 08/01/2025 12:30

Yeah.... listen to those spidery senses.

LaDeeDaDeeDa · 08/01/2025 12:32

If he truly regretted what he did and wanted to make sure he never ran the risk of losing you again he would be extra careful in communicating with women.

Sadly, this sounds like he still wants the thrill of speaking to another woman and even if it doesn't lead to another affair he is doing something that warrants your suspicion.

MushMonster · 08/01/2025 12:34

Not good and not worthy your energy.
Cobfrint him, be open about how you feel. Or he flipping steps up or he goes out of the door. You are the one to call the shots here. Not him.

MushMonster · 08/01/2025 12:34

Not good and not worthy your energy.
Cobfrint him, be open about how you feel. Or he flipping steps up or he goes out of the door. You are the one to call the shots here. Not him.

JustSaltPlease · 08/01/2025 12:34

Why would he not start another affair? He got away with it last time!

MushMonster · 08/01/2025 12:35

Confront! That should say

sunflowersngunpowdr · 08/01/2025 12:37

Tell him what you saw and have it out with him. Or if you can stomach it. Say nothing. Get things in order and then hit him with a divorce.

MsBorealis · 08/01/2025 12:39

Yes, men and women can be friends.

This man though, no.

I'm not very forgiving so I wouldn't have stayed after his first affair, but this guy needs to be doing everything he can to build trust. And unfortunately he doesn't get to have gal pals yet. He should be too busy being sorry.

strawberrysea · 08/01/2025 13:28

JustSaltPlease · 08/01/2025 12:34

Why would he not start another affair? He got away with it last time!

Cruel and unhelpful

mrstinsle · 08/01/2025 13:33

I'd be tempted to sit on this but keep tabs on what's being said in the messages.

Do you have regular contact to his phone/computer so you can see what the messages say?

Does he have social media? Does the woman have it so you can see if there's contact on there too?

Thatsthebottomline · 08/01/2025 13:38

I think its all well and good trying to forgive an affair, but as your finding it doesn't always work. I'm not sure I could if I'm honest with you.

You don't trust him and you have every right not to give past events. I cant see this ending well and can only recommend you start looking at leaving as it's not going to get any better.

Sorry if that sounds harsh.

kjw82 · 08/01/2025 14:41

Thanks for all the replies. I know deep down it's a trust issue. Before the affair I never would have minded the messages because I trusted him as my husband and the father of my boys. The affair was 5 years ago and he did everything right at the time. If I confront him he'll say I'm out of order for looking but I know it will eat away at me so I will have to say something. Getting over an affair is not an easy thing. I found out during one of the Covid lockdowns and I was always one of those people that said if he cheated that would be it but when you are faced with losing your home and half the time with your kids who were young at the time. I tried my best to put it behind me but it never really goes away. In my eyes this is crossing a boundary and he must be getting some sort of emotional kick out of contacting this other woman to explain having to message all the time

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H112 · 09/01/2025 01:51

You let him away with the first affair, now it's a free for all. Of course he will do it again.

onceuponatimelived · 09/01/2025 01:55

kjw82 · 08/01/2025 11:11

I need some advice. 5 years ago my husband had an affair with a work colleague that lasted for 9 months. I found out and he nearly moved out of our family home but decided to stay and we reconciled. He started a new job and has been there for a year now. However he's started text conversations with someone, on WhatsApp when not at work and then on the online chat function when at work. I only know because I've been snooping. It's all innocent jokey stuff but I'm finding it very uncomfortable. I'm sure this is how his first affair started. I have found it very hard to forgive and trust him again, I could never forgive another affair. I'm not sure if I should ignore it and see what happens or if I should confront him (but I also don't want him to know that I've been snooping around), any advice would be greatfully received as I don't feel I can talk to friends or family as they've all forgiven him and I don't want to churn up all those bad feelings again.

Honestly, it depends.

If you plan on leaving him for good this time around then I would suggest confronting him about it and proceeding to tell him its over once he confirms it with his behaviour, only you know him well enough to decipher lies between truth.

However, if you plan on staying and you don't see yourself leaving him, then why bring it up? It will only seem like you have no boundaries if you confront him about something he knows you would leave him for but then you don't leave. This will give him more power and a hold over you because then he knows you will never leave him so essentially, his unfaithful behaviour could just get worse because he now knows he has nothing to lose.

All the best to you OP 💐

KeiraNightly · 09/01/2025 01:57

OP you will have a lot of people coming on telling you once a cheater, always a cheater. I don’t
necessarily agree, but I think you should confront him and I think once cheated on, the cheater should understand why you checked on him. That’s a price the cheater has to pay.

I have always had “work husbands” who I have had very close friendships with and messaged day and night. My current work husband is gay, but previous was not and had a partner. There was absolute zero romance going on between us, we just really bonded over work. Most of the messages was about work though and no flirting etc at all.

creamsnugjumper · 09/01/2025 02:39

I'm in the once a cheater always camp.

But it takes one to know one and I'm afraid based on experiences if you get away with it makes it easier to start again, as you know the tricks and how not to get caught.

I'd tell him you are on to him or at least that you're suspicious, maybe just say he's acting differently etc.

MsDogLady · 09/01/2025 06:50

He had 9 month affair, which was actually longer when the flirtatious build-up is added.

@kjw82, what sort of recovery structure/requirements did you set before agreeing to reconcile? After Dday he should have built iron-clad boundaries with regard to other women to protect his fidelity and restore your trust. Instead, he has opened a window to this OW and is building a close connection via their frequent messaging, in-jokes, and life chat. They will be enjoying an attraction and mutual validation. He wouldn’t be investing so much emotional energy, time and attention if he wasn’t getting a buzz from it.

It is troubling that he would accuse you of ‘being out of order’ for looking at his phone. After his previous heinous betrayal, he should be happily providing full transparency and open access to all devices and statements, even after 5 years. He doesn’t get to dictate your recovery schedule or what requirements you need to feel safe. He forfeited his right to privacy when he committed adultery.

@kjw82, he is at it again, acting like a single man. His ego gratification is his priority. He has loosened his boundaries and is once again pursuing a secret close relationship that is a threat to your marriage and your emotional health. He is confident that you are going nowhere, so he is willing to risk having another illicit adventure. You’re in a false reconciliation.

As he is abusing your trust and trampling your boundaries, I would go nuclear. Send him away and use the time and space to investigate your legal and financial options with a solicitor. Do not entertain any blame-shifting or gaslighting that ‘We’re just friends.’ He has blown his second chance, so it would be game over for me.

Owly11 · 09/01/2025 07:06

This is your life from now on. He has had an affair before and he can have one again at any time. Even if this isn't anything (yet) you can't relax; it may turn into something, it may be the next time. Unless he has seriously worked on himself and the two of you have got to the bottom of why he had the first affair and those reasons no longer apply, this is who he is. A man who has affairs. Why not save yourself the heartache and kick him out so you are free to find a man who doesn't have affairs.

Elasticatedtrousers · 09/01/2025 07:31

Everything @MsDogLady says with bells on.

I am actually a real believer in reconciliation and have seen it work many times. I don't agree with once a cheater always a cheater BUT if the flaw isn't fixed and the cheat hasn't made a huge effort to dig deep their need for validation and ego kibbles will surface again.

The 80:20 theory on infidelity really sums it up for me. Hes still seeking his 20% for whatever internal reasons he has.He's rugswept, you forgave but his basic issues are still there.

You have NOTHING to be ashamed of for holding your family together. And he doesn't have the right to privacy and complete trust after what he did to you so you'll get no arguments about snooping from me.

I would be having very VERY stern words with him and not accepting any attempt at deflection for 'snooping', I'd also start seeking legal advice.

I'm so sorry for what you're going through. Your feeling of safety should be his absolute priority. But sadly it's his need for ego kibbles that drives him.

Ladyj84 · 09/01/2025 07:41

Nothing would have made me stay after the first came out. Much as I adored and loved my first husband I left with the kids and never looked back because I was worth much more. You clearly haven't forgiven or forgotten and I wouldn't want to feel I had to snoop etc because there's no trust

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