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Am I wrong for thinking that this is inappropriate?

78 replies

MDF34 · 07/01/2025 00:03

My partner and I have been together for 18 years- we are both 36 years old.

Our entire relationship he made is very clear that he did not believe that men and women could be friends. As a result he made my life extremely difficult when it came to socialising as a mixed group of colleagues as men would be present. To the point, that I couldn't do it as it wasn't worth the days of arguments afterwards. I never felt the same way and used to encourage him to socialise with his colleagues when they were going out as a group.

However, I recently saw that he and a female colleague were exchanging almost daily messages on Instagram. He didn't know that I had seen these messages and it didn't bother me, but I became suspicious when I saw that he had deleted them. I confronted him about why he deleted them and he said there weren't any messages. When he couldn't deny it anymore (because I referenced one of the messages), he eventually admitted it. I later found out just after this that he had been going for drinks after work with this same female colleague alone on multiple occasions. He says that the dynamic in his office is a 'sociable drinks after work' environment. However, I feel like it's crossing a boundary to go alone for drinks with a female colleague and especially after deleting Instagram messages (they seemed innocent but he also lied about them). He thinks that I am not understanding his work dynamic and that's why I find it inappropriate. And if I understood then I would think it was perfectly fine (he has worked in this industry for 12 years so I'm not unfamiliar to it).

Am I wrong for feeling uncomfortable with this? I personally feel like it's crossing a boundary to go for drinks alone on multiple occasions. I also feel like I struggle to understand how he doesn't see it in the same way given his jealousy issues. Any advice is appreciated

OP posts:
username299 · 07/01/2025 15:43

You're in an abusive relationship because he's controlling who you can socialise with and emotionally abusing you when you break his rules. It's unlikely this is the only way he's abusive.

He's having an affair, probably never been faithful. People often project what they're doing onto others. He can't remain friends with women because he has no self control, so he assumes you can't either.

Contact a domestic abuse organisation and get support to leave.

MDF34 · 07/01/2025 15:45

Update...Hi all, thank you for all your messages and all your advice. I feel so validated because at various times I have said everything that you have all said directly to him. I always told him about his controlling behaviour and I always told him that it was a toxic way of thinking. I guess I just accepted it more than i should have and for too long.

He keeps reiterating that I just don't understand the dynamic (I never want to hear that word again!) and there is nothing more to it. I don't believe that he doesn't understand. After 18 years of a certain mentality, you don't suddenly change. It's just because it suits his narrative of an 'innocent' work relationship.

Funnily enough, I had already asked him if he had now changed his opinion on whether it would now be ok for me to socialise with male colleagues and he said 'your workplace is not the same kind of environment, so it's different.' It's actually laughable. You couldn't make it up.

Anyway, I have ended things with him. I allowed the jealousy and control to go on for way too long. But no more. I will not be disrespected in the way that he has disrespected me. So it's over and I'm moving on with my life.

OP posts:
Dobbythechristmaself · 07/01/2025 15:55

You should never have let someone control what you do and who you socialise with. It’s classic abuse. He’s treating you like his child or his inferior. Blocking you from normal interactions with people and limiting your life.

Separately, he’s a cheating fucker. Playing about with anyone he fancies on social media. Getting a kick from it. Prick.

thepariscrimefiles · 07/01/2025 16:04

MDF34 · 07/01/2025 15:45

Update...Hi all, thank you for all your messages and all your advice. I feel so validated because at various times I have said everything that you have all said directly to him. I always told him about his controlling behaviour and I always told him that it was a toxic way of thinking. I guess I just accepted it more than i should have and for too long.

He keeps reiterating that I just don't understand the dynamic (I never want to hear that word again!) and there is nothing more to it. I don't believe that he doesn't understand. After 18 years of a certain mentality, you don't suddenly change. It's just because it suits his narrative of an 'innocent' work relationship.

Funnily enough, I had already asked him if he had now changed his opinion on whether it would now be ok for me to socialise with male colleagues and he said 'your workplace is not the same kind of environment, so it's different.' It's actually laughable. You couldn't make it up.

Anyway, I have ended things with him. I allowed the jealousy and control to go on for way too long. But no more. I will not be disrespected in the way that he has disrespected me. So it's over and I'm moving on with my life.

Well done! I'm so glad he's got his comeuppance. What a gaslighting hypocrite he is.

Morningsky · 07/01/2025 16:23

Well done you OP. That's a great update.
Best wishes to you for your life going forward.

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 07/01/2025 16:49

Wow, OP, good for you! Stay strong!

MaggieBsBoat · 07/01/2025 16:51

Manipulative little shit of a hypocritical man isn’t he! LTB.

Just reread! Congratulations on doing the right thing OP. That must be hard after 18 years and your whole adult life though. Impressive.

Lowcarbonated · 07/01/2025 16:54

You should have ditched him when he stopped you going out with friends.

Lowcarbonated · 07/01/2025 16:55

Sorry, read up date..well done ! He sounds awful

Shoxfordian · 07/01/2025 16:58

Well done op, hope you're OK

glassof · 07/01/2025 16:58

Wow! Just read your update. What a woman! Well done for knowing your worth. Hope you are doing ok

pikkumyy77 · 07/01/2025 16:59

Well done! At 36 you are just getting started! I am so happy you have left this relationship so courageously! Go forth and live life!

Jinglejanglenamechanged25 · 07/01/2025 17:05

On wards and up wards OP enjoy your freedom.

ChristmasFluff · 07/01/2025 17:08

OP, having been in an abusive relationship myself, I know how hard it is to leave. There is no shame in not ending things immediately, in having second thoughts, and in feeling frightened of the consequences of leaving, especially as you have been together all your adult life.

Forgive me if I am projecting, but I find it hard to believe you have walked away with barely a backwards glance, immediately ready to move on with the rest of your life - or that he's let you go so easily. It must be tempting to put on a brave face and be cheered on, because you will want to please the people who have advised you, just like you've tried to please him for 18 years. But people here can also support you through a messy and back-and-forth break-up and the doubts that come with it.

MN can also help if you actually plan to stay and try to somehow get him to see your point of view, because you believe the trauma bond is love. Many of us have done the same. It usually takes a long time to recognise that an abuser won't change - I was being physically abused and still didn't really believe it was 'proper' abuse, and held out hope. Recognising coercive control is even harder, and understanding the reality that this means the relationship is unviable? I'm not convinced that has happened in the course of 16 hours, OP.

I hope, though, that this is just a final straw - that you have been ready to leave him for a while, but didn't feel you had 'sufficient reason'. You will be well rid of him, and your life certainly will be so much more free.

kate592 · 07/01/2025 17:16

Oh OP, if only you could have had the 'right' sort of workplace with the necessary 'dynamic'. 🙄

What a hypercritical arsehole he is, well done OP to putting a complete stop to it.

Kerkyra2024 · 07/01/2025 18:40

Well done OP! He would have no doubt stated that your workplace was different it's not the same dynamic regardless of what your job was. Now you can truly let your hair down.

Smellskindafunky · 07/01/2025 18:48

He's right, men and women cant be friends. He wants to get into his new female friend.

MaryGreenhill · 07/01/2025 18:49

My best friend is a heterosexual man , l have known him since l was a baby, we grew up together, lived 3 doors away from each other. We are both happily married. Your partner is a hypocrite and a control freak .
You don't have to put up with this OP.

MaryGreenhill · 07/01/2025 18:51

Just read that you have ended it with him . Good for you OP 😁

Ukholidaysaregreat · 07/01/2025 20:03

Wow! Well done OP. You will be able to get a lot of support on Mumsnet if you need it.

slightlydistrac · 07/01/2025 20:23

What a raging hypocrite.

pinkyredrose · 07/01/2025 20:28

Christ how have you put up with him for 18yrs! Do yourself a favour and get rid. See how freeing it feels not having a milstone round your neck.

pinkyredrose · 07/01/2025 20:29

pinkyredrose · 07/01/2025 20:28

Christ how have you put up with him for 18yrs! Do yourself a favour and get rid. See how freeing it feels not having a milstone round your neck.

Posting before seeing your update. Well done Op!

XChrome · 07/01/2025 20:54

MDF34 · 07/01/2025 15:45

Update...Hi all, thank you for all your messages and all your advice. I feel so validated because at various times I have said everything that you have all said directly to him. I always told him about his controlling behaviour and I always told him that it was a toxic way of thinking. I guess I just accepted it more than i should have and for too long.

He keeps reiterating that I just don't understand the dynamic (I never want to hear that word again!) and there is nothing more to it. I don't believe that he doesn't understand. After 18 years of a certain mentality, you don't suddenly change. It's just because it suits his narrative of an 'innocent' work relationship.

Funnily enough, I had already asked him if he had now changed his opinion on whether it would now be ok for me to socialise with male colleagues and he said 'your workplace is not the same kind of environment, so it's different.' It's actually laughable. You couldn't make it up.

Anyway, I have ended things with him. I allowed the jealousy and control to go on for way too long. But no more. I will not be disrespected in the way that he has disrespected me. So it's over and I'm moving on with my life.

👏👏👏

missod · 07/01/2025 21:05

Blimey, you don't hang about OP. Star

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