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Nice guy but many issues

52 replies

Gosia8787 · 06/01/2025 10:15

Hello ladies,
I hope you are all well.

I am here today for advice.

I came out of toxic and abusive marriage after 16 years and have been single for a year. I signed up to match.com in October just to see whats the dating scene like and met a nice guy. We very quickly connected on emotional level. Same likes and dislikes. Same sense of humour and cheekiness and the guy is highly emotionally intelligent. He is very respectful , he knows I have busy lifestyle and what I have been through. He understands I am a mum to two girls ages 15 and 5 and never pushes me for anything as he understands my lifestyle.

Physically I dont find him too attractive as he is very small , about 5,5 and I am 5'2 but being through extremley violent marriage I now know it is not about the looks. I met him briefly on one occasion and even though we were outdoors I smelled terrible odour from his mouth. Initially I thought it was because he came from work and perhaps he didnt not eat. It was bad but I suppose it can happen to anyone. We met the second time and the odour was still there , on this occasion he tried to kiss me and we were together for longer but the smell was deadly. I brought it up with him questioning it with him as maybe he had problems with his teeth or sinusus and he does. he had his adenoids and tonsils removed and he is struggling with bad breath. He took it nicely and started working on his breath. the smell is still there but a big improvement .

He is nice and gentle guy with big heart.

He was born at 5.5 months old and I can see physically wise he was affected by this. His eye movement is weird and coordination problems as well. I wont reject him for this as emotionally and intellectually he is there.

Relationship was getting better between us and I started to develop love for him. We started to talk about sex and our fantasies . After few casual dates we met in a hotel to spend time together and possible sex.

On the day everythign was fine, we get on extremley well. He was well aware that I dont use contraception and I am very fertile , he reassured me we will use pull out method. We both tested for Stds which he didnt have a problem with either. I felt safe in that sense.

We started to have sex and few minutes in I realised he wasnt hard and my vagina was all covered in sperm. He came inside of me without realising. He was really bad at sex. He basically put it inside of me and didnt even move I think it is something to do with his coordination problems from being born premature.

THis is another matter but what was shocking is that he came inside of me. When I questioned him he said he came but just a little bit.. he was giving me stupid answers which made me very angry.

OUr weekend together was done at this point. IN the morning I went to get morning after pill and he was very apologetic and crying.

I dont think i want to carry on with the relationship. I was forced to have abortion 3 times under threats by my ex husband. NOw I worry if I am pregnant I will need to go through this again. ITs very traumatic for me. Perhaps I know i wasnt entireley responsible but I made it clear to him I dont use contraception of any kind.

Now I dont know what to do.. first of all the odour, then the physical aspect , then the sex and then there ir broken trust.

On emotional level we connected 100 % , we get on well. he is someone I would want as my future husband as he is carrying and thoughtful and loves children and is very respectful apart of this one accident.

What would you do my dear ladies if you were in my shoes?

I dont want to reject someone for their looks and few other things althought coming inside of me was serious to me.

There are so many perverts and sick guys out there and I dont get anything like that from him . I am not sure whether this will work....

Please let me know your thoughts.

THank you everyone and have a lovely day.

OP posts:
ForZanyAquaViewer · 06/01/2025 10:20

The pull out method is an insane mode of contraception for anyone, but particularly so with someone you barely know. Genuinely insane. You’ve been incredibly irresponsible and done yourself a disservice.

Break up with him because you want to break up with him - you don’t need to prove a case in a court of law, you don’t need a host of reasons. You can just be done.

Then educate yourself about safe sex and start practicing it.

Gosia8787 · 06/01/2025 10:21

ForZanyAquaViewer · 06/01/2025 10:20

The pull out method is an insane mode of contraception for anyone, but particularly so with someone you barely know. Genuinely insane. You’ve been incredibly irresponsible and done yourself a disservice.

Break up with him because you want to break up with him - you don’t need to prove a case in a court of law, you don’t need a host of reasons. You can just be done.

Then educate yourself about safe sex and start practicing it.

yes I agree . Lesson learnt for the future.

OP posts:
healthybychristmas · 06/01/2025 10:24

I can't believe this. He had really bad breath yet you kissed him and had sex with him. Neither of you were using contraception yet you say you are extremely fertile.

Why on earth would you have sex with someone when you are not using contraception? Why on earth would you have sex with someone who stinks?

Gosia8787 · 06/01/2025 10:25

healthybychristmas · 06/01/2025 10:24

I can't believe this. He had really bad breath yet you kissed him and had sex with him. Neither of you were using contraception yet you say you are extremely fertile.

Why on earth would you have sex with someone when you are not using contraception? Why on earth would you have sex with someone who stinks?

because I know he has a health problem and has a big heart.

OP posts:
BigMingeEnergy · 06/01/2025 10:29

You've been really silly. You're old enough to know the pull out method isn't safe so you can't be too angry at him for finishing in you, as you willingly took that risk by choosing unprotected sex.

I couldn't be with someone with bad breath. It's gross and the thought turns my stomach.
Ditch him and work on yourself.

ManchesterGirl2 · 06/01/2025 10:29

It doesn't sound like you fancy him at all. Looks aren't everything, but that's no point having a relationship with someone you aren't attracted to, just because they're "nice". Raise your bar for someone who's both physically and emotionally attractive to you.

And don't use the pull out method, it's not reliable at all!

Mmhmmn · 06/01/2025 10:31

He was well aware that I dont use contraception and I am very fertile , he reassured me we will use pull out method

It is up to YOU to take responsibility for your own body and health. To trust the ‘pull out method’ if you don’t want to get pregnant is ridiculous.

Just end the relationship. As pp has said, you don’t need to prove a case in a court of law, just end it because you don’t want him. You need to work on your self esteem and boundaries with the awful relationship history you’ve had so that you can protect yourself from nonsense and not tolerate bad behaviour by partners in future.(counselling/ self help books/ even a free phone like like Samaritans might help to talk things through ?) Have you had any counselling about your marriages?

Gosia8787 · 06/01/2025 10:33

Mmhmmn · 06/01/2025 10:31

He was well aware that I dont use contraception and I am very fertile , he reassured me we will use pull out method

It is up to YOU to take responsibility for your own body and health. To trust the ‘pull out method’ if you don’t want to get pregnant is ridiculous.

Just end the relationship. As pp has said, you don’t need to prove a case in a court of law, just end it because you don’t want him. You need to work on your self esteem and boundaries with the awful relationship history you’ve had so that you can protect yourself from nonsense and not tolerate bad behaviour by partners in future.(counselling/ self help books/ even a free phone like like Samaritans might help to talk things through ?) Have you had any counselling about your marriages?

You are right. I didnt have proper counselling only CBT to deal with anxiety. I never truly disclosed the real abuse I experienced to anyone.

OP posts:
Mmhmmn · 06/01/2025 10:36

Gosia8787 · 06/01/2025 10:25

because I know he has a health problem and has a big heart.

His problems do not trump your needs.

This is really important OP. If you don’t work to believe that, you won’t end the cycle of terrible relationships in which your needs are squashed down and their needs come first.

DaringLion · 06/01/2025 10:39

Please don’t give your daughters contraception advice

Gosia8787 · 06/01/2025 10:40

DaringLion · 06/01/2025 10:39

Please don’t give your daughters contraception advice

I wont. :(

OP posts:
smithey85 · 06/01/2025 10:43

This can not be real, surely?!

You don't find him physically attractive
He has bad breath
You used the pull out method the firs time you had sex even though you are very fertile
He has PE
He came inside you without telling you

Yet you don't know what to do?!

What you should absolutely , without hesitation do the next time you have sex with someone else is to use some form of contraception and not rely on the pull out method.

OurDreamLife · 06/01/2025 10:44

Your standards are incredibly low.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 06/01/2025 10:46

Abuse thrives on secrecy and you need now to love your own self for a change. Get therapy for the abuse you suffered, contact Womens Aid and enrol yourself onto the Freedom Programme as part of your recovery. Abuse like you’ve had can take an awful long time to recover from.

You put yourself at great risk here mainly due to your own poor boundaries. Your boundaries have been skewed by previous abuse. Get off dating sites and work on rebuilding your own self.

Candleabra · 06/01/2025 10:49

If this is real you need to ditch all thoughts of dating until you’ve worked on your own boundaries. Which have been trampled all over.

Waterboatlass · 06/01/2025 10:51

The withdrawal method decision was really silly on your part and I think on you should take agency for that. It's not an appropriate method of contraception for a new partner.

So you're saying in short he's not the most attractive but you're able to see past that during to his personality. Fine in principle but you go into so much detail about his breath, physicality, bad sex, odd behaviour after sex. Are you really seeing past the lack of initial attraction?

I think you should probably concentrate on processing the abuse you experienced previously with the help of a therapist. This will give you the chance to get your expectations and boundaries in order.

You seem to be convincing yourself that this man is your best option because he isn't an abuser. However there is another. Time to yourself, recovering, then later dating slowly and meeting someone you like and find attractive (I like your approach that they don't have to be perfect or model material, the main thing is kindness but there has to be some romantic interest. You deserve that) and trusting your judgement.

Gosia8787 · 06/01/2025 10:53

AttilaTheMeerkat · 06/01/2025 10:46

Abuse thrives on secrecy and you need now to love your own self for a change. Get therapy for the abuse you suffered, contact Womens Aid and enrol yourself onto the Freedom Programme as part of your recovery. Abuse like you’ve had can take an awful long time to recover from.

You put yourself at great risk here mainly due to your own poor boundaries. Your boundaries have been skewed by previous abuse. Get off dating sites and work on rebuilding your own self.

I am looking into freedom programme now . Thank you

OP posts:
Kashmiri24 · 06/01/2025 10:54

I hope this poor man isn't going to stumble across this thread, and read about all his very identifiable failings. You really do need to use contraception, as many other posters have said. Also, don't have sex with someone you don't find attractive. It's demeaning to you and insulting to him. Pity sex isn't good for anyone.

Squadrona · 06/01/2025 10:56

You’re in absolutely no headspace to date if you can’t decide not to date a man you find profoundly physically unattractive and sexually inept, and with whom you have unsafe sex.

TwistedWonder · 06/01/2025 10:56

Candleabra · 06/01/2025 10:49

If this is real you need to ditch all thoughts of dating until you’ve worked on your own boundaries. Which have been trampled all over.

Absolutely this. You don’t owe a man you’re not attracted to sex or a relationship.

You honestly shouldn’t be dating while your bar is set this low. You’ll get chewed up and spat out by predatory and useless men who can sniff out vulnerability a mile off.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 06/01/2025 10:56

You need to start using contraception or accept the risk ... even if he withdraws before ejaculation you could still get pregnant. I suspect your guy is very inexperienced and did not purposefully mean to ejaculate, he just doesn't have the necessary control.

mnreader · 06/01/2025 10:57

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Gosia8787 · 06/01/2025 10:57

Squadrona · 06/01/2025 10:56

You’re in absolutely no headspace to date if you can’t decide not to date a man you find profoundly physically unattractive and sexually inept, and with whom you have unsafe sex.

yes I understand this now. I need to work on myself a lot and I will do that. Sounds stupid but I just wanted a kind person next to me . Yes I agree with pp my self esteem but me very low for this to happen.

OP posts:
lljkk · 06/01/2025 11:00

Gosia8787 · 06/01/2025 10:25

because I know he has a health problem and has a big heart.

So it was a pity Fuck?
Ah well you can do that if you like, but you really don't have to...

Summerhillsquare · 06/01/2025 11:03

Mmhmmn · 06/01/2025 10:36

His problems do not trump your needs.

This is really important OP. If you don’t work to believe that, you won’t end the cycle of terrible relationships in which your needs are squashed down and their needs come first.

A million times this!