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Im dating a man who lost his wife and I’m wondering if it’s too soon?

63 replies

Littleloss · 28/12/2024 11:07

Hi, I’m dating a wonderful man, and amazing father (1 girl, 1 boy). He lost his wife 2.5 years ago and since he has had 4 relatively short relationships, he admits he’s lonely on his own and is looking for a long term partner. I suppose my concern is that I don’t want to be another girl in a string of short relationships for him, I’m looking for my life partner to be there for me and my son. It’s quite intense, we’ve been out on only a few dates, but we both seem to be falling quite hard. I suppose I’m asking are multiple short term relationships a red flag in this situation? It may be normal (widower or not), but I’ve never been someone who’s had short relationships. Thanks all ☺️

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Drivingoverlemons · 28/12/2024 22:16

A close relative got together with someone a year after his wife died of a long illness. I don’t think it is fair to say that if you are widowed you should 2.5 years on be concentrating only on your kids as everyone gets lonely and when your partner has had a long illness, I am not going to say you get used to the idea of them not being around, but you have had a really shit time thinking about the future for quite a while.

More worrying is the intense thing tbh as it could be lovebombing (but might not be).

JohnMcClanesVest · 28/12/2024 22:19

SamBoner · 28/12/2024 19:15

Run a fucking mile. He will always have her in his head and her family will be involved in the kids lives and his lives forever. You will always be an imposter. Second fiddle etc.
Ask me how I know, I lived it for a few years. Lucky you arent in very deep so go find another man without this massive hangover.

I agree with this, my BIL was widowed three years ago and talks the talk because he’s lonely but no one can live up to his dead wife.

Monty27 · 28/12/2024 23:37

@Littleloss I just ended a 1 year relationship with a widower. I met him when he was just short of his wife's first anniversary. He said all the lines he loved me and after about 8 months of meeting him we dated. He love bombed me.
Yet this Christmas evening having arranged to spend it with me after we spent the day separately with respective DC's (all grown ups) he cried off coming to mine saying he felt sick and I had to go home. Boxing day morning he messaged to say he was feeling better then ghosted me.
I blocked him today as I saw him on sm. Our presents are unopened and he can get lost now.
In fact if he came to the door I'd throw his interflora bouquet received Christmas eve, on his head. Just like they do in the movies. (Light-hearted hurt).
I've spent a whole year of my life feeling loved and cherished and giving him real big support.
I wouldn't touch another recently widowed man with a barge pole.

Lighteningstrikes · 29/12/2024 00:17

Opentooffers · 28/12/2024 11:32

Hard to say, however, intense relationships tend to burn out quicker, so I suggest dialling it back and not getting carried away with it from your end.

This 100%
Although it’s hard, keep a grip on yourself just in case this is another flash in the pan for him.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 29/12/2024 00:39

Most people go through a string of shortish relationships before they meet the person they're going to marry.

Why would it be any different the second time around?

GymBuffMum · 29/12/2024 00:58

I’d be very wary of the amount of relationships he’s had that ended in such a short space of time as an adult man with DC. Not like he’s a teen or young man who you might expect to jump from relationship to relationship although many have relationships lasting longer than that. I’d want to know why they ended although you’d only get his side of the story.

Even if his wife was ill for a while before dying, you’d expect him to have a bit of decorum and consideration for his DC, who are at an impressionable age, losing their Mum and were likely aware he was seeing other women even if they didn’t meet them. He must have got through 3 women in the first 18 months of her dying if he had a one year relationship that only ended recently!

Doesn’t sound like that great of a guy tbh. Maybe the others didn’t like what they saw after the love bombing wore off?

GodspeedJune · 29/12/2024 01:14

You say it is intense with calls and messages. That is probably his style. Even if he didn’t introduce all of these women to his DC then he was likely spending time and energy on them when his DC were (and are) at a vulnerable stage.

Five different women during such a pivotal life change is quite the distraction, so I wouldn’t view him as an amazing father just yet.

If you want to persue it further I would guard your heart and definitely dampen down the intensity issue. It isn’t a healthy start to any relationship.

Monty27 · 29/12/2024 01:59

I had all those promises and declarations of love. And talks of the future and the holidays we'd have. Both retired early. And pretty much got ghosted at Christmas. I've blocked him.
Don't fall for it @Littleloss

Pinkbonbon · 29/12/2024 02:07

Littleloss · 28/12/2024 11:07

Hi, I’m dating a wonderful man, and amazing father (1 girl, 1 boy). He lost his wife 2.5 years ago and since he has had 4 relatively short relationships, he admits he’s lonely on his own and is looking for a long term partner. I suppose my concern is that I don’t want to be another girl in a string of short relationships for him, I’m looking for my life partner to be there for me and my son. It’s quite intense, we’ve been out on only a few dates, but we both seem to be falling quite hard. I suppose I’m asking are multiple short term relationships a red flag in this situation? It may be normal (widower or not), but I’ve never been someone who’s had short relationships. Thanks all ☺️

"It's quite intense" a few dates in? LOVE BOMBING ALERT! Runnnnn!

It should never be 'intense'. Let alone a few dates in. This is what he he does. Rushes feelings along via creating intensity.

Love bombs you via keeping you on the phone at his beck and call.

See those other 4 women? They know something you don't! Run after them!

trippingthelightfantastic1 · 29/12/2024 10:23

I am with a widower who lost his wife to MND. My situation is different to yours somewhat as our children were adults when we met (and when his wife died). He and his wife had also agreed to split just before she was diagnosed, all amicable with no other parties involved or on the scene. They had simply grown apart but still had the upmost respect for each other. He stayed and looked after her. Had he not and continued instead with the plan to move out it would have been a massive red flag to me. I knew him before she died but nothing happened whatsoever until 9 months after she passed and even then, we moved very gently. So much so that it was questionable in the early days if we were even dating.

We were and remain clear that our children, even though adults, come first. I am divorced rather than a widow, but have seen first had what it looks like to your child when their father deprioritises them for someone else. In the end they sat us down and told us we need not be so cautious on their behalf and have been nothing but encouraging in our relationship. But as I say his sons are adults with their own lives (one recently married) and do not feel they are competing with me for their father's attention. I can see how things might be different if there are younger children but I think the issues typically occur in cases where the integrity of their late mother's place in their family is not sufficiently respected or upheld.

I think it is perfectly possible that a person has done some of their grieving before their partner dies if there was a long illness. That said, there is still more grieving to do once they pass. I would say it is critical that you talk to him about his grief and how he feels. My partner's wife was a massive part of his life (they were together 30 years) and that would have been the case even if she hadn't died. We still do talk about her sometimes, as do his sons. I don't feel concerned that she remains part of their lives in this way; how could she not? I would be concerned if she weren't mentioned. I certainly don't think it is necessary the case that if you are with a widower you are second fiddle, same as you won't necessarily be if you are with someone divorced. I do not feel second fiddle at all, in fact quite the opposite.

Love bombing is a modern concept, is it what we used to call infatuation? If you meet someone you truly connect with then it is easy to go all giddy and things become openly intense quickly. That is how a lot of relationships start and things either fizzle out or it morphs into something long term. I did not openly show how I felt and nor did my partner. Perhaps because we are older but also because I think it scared us both. But we knew anyway. It is how you feel that is most important. Again, I think you should discuss this, including your concern that you might just be another in a long line of recent partners rather than someone special. It is perfectly plausible you are special.

Ultimately, if you are considering anything long term my advice is that you talk to him. Only then will you know if he is ready to move on and how to navigate things. For me, the red flag would be a refusal to talk about his ex wife and a desire to act as if she was never there.

Chocolateteapot12 · 29/12/2024 10:36

Mischance · 28/12/2024 13:33

Everyone is different. When my DH first died I went onto a dating site, as I felt slightly desperate, as if a single life was so far outside my experience that I did not know how to face it. But I read lots of profiles and began to realise that I was not wanting a man, but wanting a particular man who was now dead. I also began to adapt to a life on my own - it is not what I would have chosen, but I have found a way to live it.

I do not think that your new friend's short relationships need be a red flag - he is clear what he wants, and if these relationships were not meeting those wants, then there was no point in prolonging them - better to be honest and move on. But it does to some extent depend on what his reasons for ending the relationships were and what his wants are. You do need to talk with him about these things - you cannot get in deeper without having more information.

You are taking things slowly - this is wise. You need time to understand his motives better - you do not want to make a mistake here, for your sake, for his, and for the three children involved.

Hi @Mischance
Please could I PM you to ask about your experiences of adapting to life without your husband? Mine died 4 months ago and I’m struggling hugely. Thank you.

Sorry to the OP to divert your thread.

Moveoverdarlin · 29/12/2024 10:39

I think it’s a good thing he’s had a few short relationships between his wife passing and meeting you. You can’t accuse him of going from one to the other and personally a few noncommittal flings can do you the world of good after something so tragic happening. I wouldn’t worry about those relationships at all, he was just dipping his toe back in the water. Just go with the flow and enjoy it.

Littleloss · 29/12/2024 12:26

trippingthelightfantastic1 · 29/12/2024 10:23

I am with a widower who lost his wife to MND. My situation is different to yours somewhat as our children were adults when we met (and when his wife died). He and his wife had also agreed to split just before she was diagnosed, all amicable with no other parties involved or on the scene. They had simply grown apart but still had the upmost respect for each other. He stayed and looked after her. Had he not and continued instead with the plan to move out it would have been a massive red flag to me. I knew him before she died but nothing happened whatsoever until 9 months after she passed and even then, we moved very gently. So much so that it was questionable in the early days if we were even dating.

We were and remain clear that our children, even though adults, come first. I am divorced rather than a widow, but have seen first had what it looks like to your child when their father deprioritises them for someone else. In the end they sat us down and told us we need not be so cautious on their behalf and have been nothing but encouraging in our relationship. But as I say his sons are adults with their own lives (one recently married) and do not feel they are competing with me for their father's attention. I can see how things might be different if there are younger children but I think the issues typically occur in cases where the integrity of their late mother's place in their family is not sufficiently respected or upheld.

I think it is perfectly possible that a person has done some of their grieving before their partner dies if there was a long illness. That said, there is still more grieving to do once they pass. I would say it is critical that you talk to him about his grief and how he feels. My partner's wife was a massive part of his life (they were together 30 years) and that would have been the case even if she hadn't died. We still do talk about her sometimes, as do his sons. I don't feel concerned that she remains part of their lives in this way; how could she not? I would be concerned if she weren't mentioned. I certainly don't think it is necessary the case that if you are with a widower you are second fiddle, same as you won't necessarily be if you are with someone divorced. I do not feel second fiddle at all, in fact quite the opposite.

Love bombing is a modern concept, is it what we used to call infatuation? If you meet someone you truly connect with then it is easy to go all giddy and things become openly intense quickly. That is how a lot of relationships start and things either fizzle out or it morphs into something long term. I did not openly show how I felt and nor did my partner. Perhaps because we are older but also because I think it scared us both. But we knew anyway. It is how you feel that is most important. Again, I think you should discuss this, including your concern that you might just be another in a long line of recent partners rather than someone special. It is perfectly plausible you are special.

Ultimately, if you are considering anything long term my advice is that you talk to him. Only then will you know if he is ready to move on and how to navigate things. For me, the red flag would be a refusal to talk about his ex wife and a desire to act as if she was never there.

Thank you so much, that is very helpful. He does talk about his wife a little, as in he told me straight away before we even met what had happened and that he visits her family etc. it’s early, but he certainly hasn’t tried to hide it.

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