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Help me write a letter to reconcile with my sister

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ExplorerBee · 16/12/2024 20:25

My sister and I have had a rocky relationship for many years (10 years, maybe?) and we have not spoken in a couple of years now. There is of course a huge backstory but I'd rather not go in to it deeply as it would be really long.

Obviously this is all from my pov and she would describe things differently. She has always had quite a dominant personality and reacts very strongly (emotionally - usually crying) to any perceived criticism - this is a view echoed by other family members - but nobody ever challenges her because nobody wants to deal with the reaction we know it would lead to. I often felt uncomfortable with how, if I expressed an opinion or thought that she didn't agree with it would be belittled and mocked, but I just put up with it. Like everybody else. It wasn't worth challenging.

Things between us started to go sour when I made a big effort to lose weight years ago. I lost about 30kg in total over a couple of years and was so much more healthy for it, felt much happier in myself and with my body. My sister would often comment on my dieting in a kind of mocking way (think like "oh you're eating cardboard again for lunch?" kind of comment if I had a healthy lunch). At her hen do she was having a 3 course meal and I was invited. I attended the meal, but really struggled with the amount of food after being on a strict diet for years, and I simply could not fit in dessert. I was not "dieting" that evening, and the starter and main was big portions and heavy food.

My sister saw that I was not having dessert and remarked, in front of the other people in attendance, why am I not having dessert?, I could at least drop the diet for one day for her (I had), and that I am the same size as her now so if I want to lose more weight then I must think she is fat.

I found this really embarrassing. I am quite she in groups and everybody was looking at me. I was also so uncomfortable to have my weight compared to hers so publicly as well.

I didn't say anything at the time. Didn't laugh along but didn't voice how I felt because it was her hen do and everybody was watching. Later that evening I was stewing over what she said and decided to try and write her a text to gently tell her how I felt about the comments, in the hopes that she would stop the little jabs. Now here is a point I accept this was not a wise choice - she was likely to receive this message after drinks (she went out for drinks after the restaurant), it was her hen-do night and I should have waited to think more about how to word what I wanted to say and send it at a more sensible time. So I accept this was a bad decision on my part. I have apologised to her for this.

I agonised over the message, because of the history explained above with her not reacting well to being challenged. I expected that she would not like to hear that her words had upset me, and would take offense to me voicing it. I don't have the exact message I sent any more to share (it was over 10 years ago) but it was something along the lines of "Hi sis, thanks for inviting me to your hen do, it was a great night and I'm looking forward to the big day. I just wanted to let you know that when you pointed out my dieting in front of everyone made me feel quite awkward, and comparing my size to yours made me feel uncomfortable as well. I am losing weight for my own health and happiness, it is nothing to do with appearance/comparisons. Please don't take this the wrong way, just wanted to let you know as you probably didn't realise how it was making me feel. Love you x"

I got no response.

I texted again a few days later and asked if she had received my message and is she okay? She replied that yes she had received it but wasn't responding because she was so upset about it.

And basically that was it. Something had changed from that point. We did reconcile again at a few years later after I had a child, but it was never the same.

There have been a couple more 'dramas' since that. I don't want to get into the details as this is getting too long already and I don't want to dwell on the past, just want to give enough info to get some appropriate advice on here. All said dramas were off the back of somebody affiliated with me (think friend/partner) saying something she didn't like and she got mad at me by proxy, essentially. I am not sure if she wanted me to get them to apologise (I literally can't do that, I did actually ask my friend to just to smooth things over and get back to normal, but she refused. As is her right). She has never told me exactly why she was angry at me, I suspect it may be because she thought I should show solidarity to her be dropping said friend/partner because they offended her. Which I was not willing to do. NB - the things they said that she got upset about were not based on things I had said to them, so it was not a "OP told me you're a bitch" kind of thing. I would understand why she would be mad at me under those circumstances because I would have bad mouthed her to them. Which I have not. They were comments they made about her behaviour based on their own experiences and interactions.

Since the last drama there has been radio silence. 2 years now, I think.

Both her and I have children. I miss my nephews dearly. One of them is a similar age to my child and it would be so nice if they could be allowed to bond and play together. I really want to put all this drama behind us and move forward for our children's sake. We will never be best mates, we are too different, but in my mind that is okay, we don't need to be best friends. I just don't feel that it is right for our children to all miss out on a slice of their family who love them, just because us as sisters have had issues with each other in the past. Life is too short.

I am well aware that I am not entitled to contact with my nephews, or to have anything to do with her family. I know I can't force her to put things aside, or 'forgive'. But I would like to at least try to offer an olive branch. I don't want to regret not reaching out later in life to try and fix things. I'd like to say, in as kind and diplomatic a way as possible that we are very different as people and that's fine, but can we try to put all the past behind us for the sake of the kids? Can we at least agree to be civil and have family gatherings without the rest of the family essentially having to choose which sister to invite?

I was thinking something along the lines of:

"Dear sis and family,

Merry Christmas! I hope you are all well and have had a good year.

<insert some brief info about how my child and I have done this year>

I know we have had a rocky few years but I wanted to try and offer an olive branch. I am sorry if I have said or done something to upset you.

We both miss [her children] very much and [my son] would love to be able to play together with them. I wonder if you think it's possible to try and build bridges?

Lots of love, OP"

Yes, I know this letter is not great. I am not good at this stuff. I feel it reads as quite dry and 'formal'?

Please could you help me write something better?

PS - I would prefer this thread doesn't start focussing on who is 'right' and 'wrong' in past interactions. It really doesn't matter, and raking over the coals in a letter wouldn't help! I just need advice on how to word a letter that conveys what I have said above, but in a less rigid and formal way!

OP posts:
ChessorBuckaroo · 25/12/2024 01:23

ExplorerBee · 25/12/2024 00:12

I totally get why you and another poster think the difference in detail sounds sketchy. I have deliberately been vague as I felt it would be quite outing to give a similar level of detail re: the most recent event. And to be fair, like I said in the original post, I (personally) don't really care who was 'right' and 'wrong', but do appreciate that it may matter to her. I just wanted help with wording, mainly.

For more context, the more recent event involved a family group chat. I was struggling with various issues (primarily health and financial) and I mentioned on the family chat that I was really struggling at the moment, and if anybody was in a position to help (with childcare, house help, or just to talk to) I could really use it right now. I'd never asked for help before like this, so not a regular thing. My sister responded saying that we all have our own issues we are dealing with and I'm on my own. Nobody else said anything in the group chat, but did reach out privately, some saying they didn't respond to the group chat with support because they didn't want to 'trigger' my sister by appearing to disagree. I was so hurt by this. I quietly left the group chat a day later because I felt it was not good for my mental health at that point, and I could speak to people individually if needed.

After I left, my partner sent a message in the group chat saying that he was disappointed with how cold my sister had been, and how she responded had been unkind (some context being that she knew how dire things had been for me). I didn't know he had sent this message until later, and I wish he hadn't sent it considering the fallout. Although it was nice to feel like he wasn't scared to say what he thought, and to be seen defending me.

My sister was very upset about this. She has not spoken to me since. I didn't send the message. I didn't know about it until the drama blew up.

So yes, all silly WhatsApp drama that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

I accept that I should have probably not posted about having hard times on a family group chat and instead have called somebody individually for support. In my defense I was in a very bad place and felt rock bottom at the time, and just needed to talk. I appreciate that leaving the group chat the next day may have come across as flouncing. I own all that.

I don't live with my partner (complicated situation with special needs children) and accept that my sister and him being together will never work now and that's fine. But I don't feel that I should have to leave a supportive partner in order to show solidarity to my sister.

I don't think I'm blameless in the rift. I have definitely made bad decisions. I don't feel that I should be held accountable for how people around me react to her actions, though.

I did send a card with a letter in the end. Kept it short and to the point. Basically said I feel sad for the missed time and does she think we could build bridges in the new year?

I will not pursue her further as I don't want her to feel harassed but I feel I've left the door open and it's up to her now.

Edited

That's a lovely message OP.

We're human, we mess up. What's important is to try and let bygones be bygones and try and get on with each other as best we can. You have done the right thing as these grudges we hold and the radio silence are often silly.

Good luck to you and merry Christmas.

pikkumyy77 · 25/12/2024 04:26

Your parents should have stepped up to help you. And your partner who doesn’t even live with you should have stayed out of it.

daisychain01 · 25/12/2024 04:48

A lot of water has passed under the bridge.

anything you say in your message about the past will be like red rag to a bull to someone like that.

Ask yourself if during the past two year, have you felt some sense of relief (no tension, no drama, no worrying about whether you've said or done the right thing or not) and if so, do you think that by re-establishing contact you'll be back on that negative merry-go-round again.

also prepare yourself for more radio silence after putting your heart and soul into a well-intentioned message. Your DSis seems to enjoy the sense of power she gets by ignoring you (based on her past track record).

when she did that last time, you made the mistake of chasing her up "did you get my message?" - if you do contact her and she doesn't reply, learn from the past and don't send her a chase up as it just gives her the chance to stick the boot in again.

Petula1977 · 25/12/2024 05:38

My sister became estranged from me for 5 years. She sounds similar to your sister. Can dish out the criticism but not take it. It left me deeply depressed and I had to have therapy. At first I tried to reach out but everything was ignored, letters and cards sent back etc so in the end I stopped. My parents are timid and scared of her themselves so they did nothing. We are communicating now and it hasn't happened through anything either of us have done. Our daughters are of a similar age and got in touch with one another on Snapchat and then insisted we meet up. They are both teenagers and very good friends now even though we as sisters are not. If your children want to get in touch with one another they will do when they are a bit older. Children are far more savvy about communicating with each other than when we were young. I don't think you can force it but there is hope.

graceinspace999 · 25/12/2024 09:29

It’s a very difficult situation for you. I suspect she will always be someone who is hard to get in with.

I would leave her where she has chosen to be. If you make contact you are risking more hurt.

Try and focus on people who are good to you and enjoy your Christmas knowing you are not to blame.

I see absolutely nothing wrong in asking family for a bit of help in times of need so don’t let anyone make you feel bad about this - especially strangers on an Internet forum.

Have a great Christmas 🎅

WomenInConstruction · 25/12/2024 22:16

I think if someone in a family group asks for help and this is rare and they let it be known they are struggling it would be normal to respond with kindness even if that is only to kindly explain you're not in a position to help though you would want to.

To say that people keep their problems to themselves and only use paid help or a partner in times of need is a cold hard world I don't want to live in.

In my friendship group chat, you would have been met with a flood of warm supportive thoughts, and practical help too if it was possible.

I think the sister is unreasonable, the fact that people can't speak freely or respond how their inclinations want them to respond shows that people walk on eggshells round her.

Op, if you're in a dark place of course you should reach out to those who know and care for you.

If you came on here saying you were struggling to face another day, everyone would be encouraging you to tell your family, reach out for support as surely anyone who knew how you felt would want to help and not see you suffer in silence... Then you do exactly that and some pp are saying it's cheeky and not the done thing. I don't get it.

Hells bells I'd help a neighbour in that position if I could never mind a member of my family. I don't mean take on a long term role, but a helping hand in an hour of need... Of course!

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 26/12/2024 10:59

Yes I totally agree that I was being self centred by reaching out for support in the group chat. I was in a bad place and desperately needed it at the time. I accept that it could have been seen as cheeky or annoying.

heaven's sake woman, you're entitled to ask for help if you're struggling and you've done everythign you reasonably can to help yourself. A decent family would be there for you, unless they were absolutely unable to!

Please don't put yourself down like this, given that 'self-centred' has such negative connotations. There are better and more accurate ways to put it. You're the one living your life, so naturally it's you asking for help and that's okay.

Bear in mind that there are some very sick individuals on Mumsnet and in real life who get off on shoving the boot in and will twist and distort events to create their own story where you are the bad guy, in order to either protect their own ego or to hurt you. Sadly you just can't escape some mean folk in life.

Gingernaut · 26/12/2024 11:07

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/12/2024 20:54

I think your message will be ignored. Any messsge no matter how carefully worded will likely be treated the same.

I would not bother with your sister. She has behaved terribly towards you (and other people unsurprisingly). Why are you apologising?. You were right to call her out on her bad behaviour but she DARVOed you. Look up DARVO (deny attack reverse victim offender).

She’s caused this because she is unhappy and cannot stand to see you or perhaps anybody else happy. She wants to take you down all the time. Her children will likely grow up with the same sort of mentality your sister has. Your role is to do as she tells you. She has not reached out to you, people like your sister never apologise nor accept any responsibility for their actions. She has not changed.

BTW are your parents aware you two do not talk?

Would you have tolerated this from a friend?. No and it should not ever have been tolerated from your sister either. Stop putting yourself in harms way, no good to you will come from contact with your sister.

This. All of this.

She publicly bullied and belittled you after your efforts to improve yourself paid off

Don't bother. You've lost your bully and causing her to perceive you as needy will simply fuel her antagonism

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/12/2024 11:48

I think if you reconcile you need to accept that she does not take on feed back for whatever reason she is too insecure or oversensitive or entitled or arrogant - whatever it is - so you'd need to accept her as she is rather than asking her to do things differently. Can you handle her and all her commenting. It doesn't mean you have to do what she tells you just you can't expect her to say nice things to you all the time.

If you're willing to put up with the above for the sake of the kids being friends etc then go ahead.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/12/2024 11:51

Just read your update about WhatsApp she sounds truly horrible op I think you're better off without her

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/12/2024 11:52

But if you do start spending time with her again you need big boundaries with yourself and don't show her you feelings or weaknesses at all - like if you're coparenting with a mean ex. The chat should be about making family plans to get kids together and the weather. Nothing more emotive. You don't have that kind of relationship anymore. Can you handle it?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/12/2024 11:56

GrettaGreen · 25/12/2024 00:45

From the additional context, from your perspective only so in favour of yourself, it does build the picture that you have responsibility for most of the rift. From her perspective you were likely being fairly self centred and asking for childcare and your house cleaned. People don't do that. It's cheeky. People buy the help in, get their partner to step up or accept it as it is hoping someone might be kind and in a position to offer the help.
She pointed that out in what sounds like a diplomatic enough way and you made a drama, flounced, then had your partner sending cheeky messages on her family group chat. If you want to make up with her, you need to take ownership and apologise then see is she willing to give it another go.
And to be quite honest, it sounds like it's about the look of it rather than genuine want to reconcile, in which case, save yourselves both the headache.

Depends on context @GrettaGreen .
If partner is away and op just had a baby or just broke an ankle or just had surgery then yes it's ok.
I asked for help from friends and family when I moved with a 12 month old and my back had seized up all in the same week. I was very thankful though and have done similar for needy friends and will definitely pay it forwards when another friend is injured or in need. It's ok to ask as long as not pressurizing.
I think the sister reminds me of an abusive partner that gets worse when the wife is pregnant or when the wife has a birthday or career celebration - can't stand her having her own needs or focusing on herself.
Really unhealthy dynamic.
Op I think you should chat this all through with a family therapist.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/12/2024 11:58

WomenInConstruction · 25/12/2024 22:16

I think if someone in a family group asks for help and this is rare and they let it be known they are struggling it would be normal to respond with kindness even if that is only to kindly explain you're not in a position to help though you would want to.

To say that people keep their problems to themselves and only use paid help or a partner in times of need is a cold hard world I don't want to live in.

In my friendship group chat, you would have been met with a flood of warm supportive thoughts, and practical help too if it was possible.

I think the sister is unreasonable, the fact that people can't speak freely or respond how their inclinations want them to respond shows that people walk on eggshells round her.

Op, if you're in a dark place of course you should reach out to those who know and care for you.

If you came on here saying you were struggling to face another day, everyone would be encouraging you to tell your family, reach out for support as surely anyone who knew how you felt would want to help and not see you suffer in silence... Then you do exactly that and some pp are saying it's cheeky and not the done thing. I don't get it.

Hells bells I'd help a neighbour in that position if I could never mind a member of my family. I don't mean take on a long term role, but a helping hand in an hour of need... Of course!

Edited

Hear hear

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/12/2024 12:02

Op also you could ask ai for advice on this I bet they'd give good advice'

Also congrats on the weight loss that's incredible you should feel proud and also buy and evil eye jewellery

1457bloom · 26/12/2024 12:05

Try Chat GPT.

Katrinawaves · 26/12/2024 12:19

On the basis you’ve said that you don’t want advice on rights of wrongs of the situation just the wording of the letter, this sentence jumps out as inflammatory

“I am sorry if I have said or done something to upset you.”

This is what’s known as a non-apology apology and is usually found by the recipient to be hugely passive aggressive and always makes things worse not better.

if you genuinely want to apologise to her, try:

”I am sorry for my part in the breakdown of our relationship”

which at least acknowledges fault on both side.

SunshineAndFizz · 26/12/2024 16:55

I'd specifically ask her to meet up, "would you be free to meet at <Costa> for a coffee in the new year?"1

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