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Men Wtf?!? My "friend"

46 replies

Icedlatteplease · 29/11/2024 22:42

So i have a "friend" for which one way or another we can't seem to get our timing right. Sparks but no flame

We were friends for years until our respective relationships blew up and we dated briefly. As enjoyable as it was it really wasn't the right timing (the world shut down!) and if I'm brutally honest im not quite sure how into I him actually was although he seemed very keen, very persistent and very sweet. It was fun. Vaguely talked about a casual situationship on occasion, but neither of us seem to be particularly bothered to make it happen.

My life got somewhat more complicated due to family, (which he was a sweetheart through and on the end of a text message when i needed him). Were at the same club so saw each other regularly without putting in any effort. Vaguely looked like we might try going on a couple of dates as he really had been a rock but the timing was off for him so nothing happened. Tbh was probably a blessed relief as my life got really complicated.

We talk every now and then, both migrated to different aspects of the hobby. We do get on well and flirt but it doesn't mean anything.

Most recently we were meeting up a bit more over our shared hobby, and he tried kissing me. I was thinking about maybe giving it a go. Made it clear (especially given previous conversations) I wasn't into anything casual, i really dont need the hassle of a relationship if its not something worthwhile, he indicated that worked with where he was now.... so I waited to see what his next step was.

He then put in about as much effort as a hook up so i very quickly shut the whole thing down in no uncertain terms. We last met on good terms, no hard feelings on my part or on his seemingly (i assume/d he feels similarly ambivalent). We nattered quite happily for a couple of hours at the time but genuinely didn't expect to hear from him again (beyond running into him hobby but weve naturally grown into different clubs) and really didn't/don't have any plans to contact him.

I don't have any relationship plans generally and am perfectly happy single.

A few months have past and i get a "Hey how you doing got some time for [shared Hobby] over Christmas" message.

I'm like WTF! I have to laugh, I'd assume he's after a Christmas hook up but I made it very clear last time I'm not interested in anything that is just a hook up and barely sure i even want a relationship

I do enjoy time spent with him as a friend and we laugh loads doing our hobby together. So I have a draft message written, yes it would be fun to meet up at some point,

but i haven't sent it,, I'm really not sure I can be bothered.

and when I say i can't be bothered with hassle, I REALLY can't be bothered. The back and forth is just annoying now.

But my biggest question is WHY? Why bother making one-on-one contact at all? Really we tied it up neatly last time and both moved on. I just don't understand.

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HowardTJMoon · 29/11/2024 22:48

Here's a wild and crazy idea - maybe he just likes spending time with you?

Icedlatteplease · 29/11/2024 23:02

He could spent time with me all he likes if he wanted too. He knows which clubs I go too. I don't meet any other of my club friends outside club.

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Sofaroller · 29/11/2024 23:11

You say you enjoy time spent together as a friend. Perhaps he does too? Sound unnecessarily stressed/dramatic over it. Respond or don't.

Icedlatteplease · 29/11/2024 23:19

I'm starting to think im not a little fed up with the friendship maybe. There's lots of mutual friends, its a small hobby but with losts of interconnecting aspects.

My proper ex is still on the peripheries of a few of the clubs, we do not get on and studiously avoid each other. I don't like it. Thankfully he seems to have mostly stopped going. That generally happens when two people involved with the hobby break up

My friend and I managed one break up on good terms and I tied up the lose ends last time well enough that meeting as friends is fine. Maybe no hard feelings isn't quite right, I'm hacked off that he put in enough effort to make me question my contented singledom but not enough to actually make anything work. I'd rather we didn't push our luck anymore. One iffy ex potentially my place of relaxation is quite enough, two would be really annoying.

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Icedlatteplease · 29/11/2024 23:21

That's the thing. I will have essentially ghosted and ignored him. Doubt he would be overly happy about that. He didn't have to message me at all.

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wafflesmochi · 29/11/2024 23:24

He likes you duhhhh. Maybe you've accidentally treated him mean and kept him keen, and you've done it really convincingly because you're genuinely not arsed. Nothing like method acting, eh?

5475878237NC · 29/11/2024 23:24

Because he's hoping for a hook up? You've got him sussed I think.

CFbillsplitter · 29/11/2024 23:32

“He then put in about as much effort as a hook up so i very quickly shut the whole thing down in no uncertain terms.”

What did he do that was putting in as much effort as a hook up? What efforts were you making?

Bumblingalon · 29/11/2024 23:33

He is keen but needs your lead imo.

Icedlatteplease · 29/11/2024 23:35

wafflesmochi · 29/11/2024 23:24

He likes you duhhhh. Maybe you've accidentally treated him mean and kept him keen, and you've done it really convincingly because you're genuinely not arsed. Nothing like method acting, eh?

Fuck!! Its a possibility. But this time I am genuinely done. Happy, more than happy to see him in a group setting but would rather pass one on one. How do you dump someone nicely a third time🫣🫣🫣

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SleepPrettyDarling · 29/11/2024 23:40

I think you need to ask him. Maybe a bit avoidant but would a text work along the lines of ‘Hey, I’m not sure if you’re looking for something romantic but I’m not, and I wouldn’t want crossed wires. Hope we can stay in the friend zone.’

Icedlatteplease · 29/11/2024 23:41

CFbillsplitter · 29/11/2024 23:32

“He then put in about as much effort as a hook up so i very quickly shut the whole thing down in no uncertain terms.”

What did he do that was putting in as much effort as a hook up? What efforts were you making?

I waited for him to organise meeting up/date the next weekend. He didn't. I Messaged on the Friday to find out his plans and he offered an hourish in the lunchtime between other arrangements. Which by then i was busy during anyway. Told him If I was going to bother make space in my life for him, he had to actively make space for me.
He didn't. So I didn't.

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Icedlatteplease · 29/11/2024 23:52

SleepPrettyDarling · 29/11/2024 23:40

I think you need to ask him. Maybe a bit avoidant but would a text work along the lines of ‘Hey, I’m not sure if you’re looking for something romantic but I’m not, and I wouldn’t want crossed wires. Hope we can stay in the friend zone.’

That's where we were!!! You'd think "see you about" and no contact for two months would do the job.

He didn't have to contact me personally at all for anything.

Now I either have to reply hey I'm even less interested, or ghost him which isn't a great look. I suppose the life is really busy tactic might work, but he knows I do make time for things/people i care about, so even that speaks volumes.

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Icedlatteplease · 29/11/2024 23:58

5475878237NC · 29/11/2024 23:24

Because he's hoping for a hook up? You've got him sussed I think.

That's my assumption. But it's bloody ridiculous after I bluntly told him I didn't need that kind of hassle and two discussions about a situationship when i might have been interested have already come to nothing.

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CFbillsplitter · 30/11/2024 00:01

That does sound pretty low effort on his part. He seems pretty inexperienced? In your position I’d probably not be interested in pursuing much of a friendship beyond saying hi if you run into each other. Leave it a while and then say we tried that before and didn’t get anywhere so feel like that ship sailed.

MabelMora · 30/11/2024 00:02

I'm too busy trying to work out what this hobby is!

MabelMora · 30/11/2024 00:03

And also, just say you're busy?

FrabjousDays · 30/11/2024 00:05

Look, he wasn’t bothered enough to hook up with you back when it was actually on the cards, because neither of you wanted to enough, so I highly doubt he’s hoping to hook up with you for Christmas, all this time on.i would assume it was the kind of random text people occasionally send someone who’s on the periphery of their lives.

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 30/11/2024 00:10

So just reply that you're busy and might see him at the next mutual hobby meeting. No ghosting required.

No-one knows what his motives are. Maybe he's hoping for a winter FWB situation, maybe you're the secret love of his life - you need to let what you want govern your next step.

Icedlatteplease · 30/11/2024 00:29

MabelMora · 30/11/2024 00:02

I'm too busy trying to work out what this hobby is!

😁it's niche. Hence me studiously avoiding it. Not cycling 🤣🤣🤣

It is however male dominated at least in our area. Mostly by men who are devoted to wife's and girlfriends. Tbh it's been handy having a (single) male who everyone assumes you will eventually get together with. By now though everyone seems used to me being chronically single or vaguely remember there's someone I'm interested in but can't remember who it was.

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Icedlatteplease · 30/11/2024 00:32

CFbillsplitter · 30/11/2024 00:01

That does sound pretty low effort on his part. He seems pretty inexperienced? In your position I’d probably not be interested in pursuing much of a friendship beyond saying hi if you run into each other. Leave it a while and then say we tried that before and didn’t get anywhere so feel like that ship sailed.

I think that's exactly what I'm coming to the conclusion through this thread. I genuinely don't want the friendship beyond being able to politely say hi

I liked where we were. I didn't need it to change

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Mirabai · 30/11/2024 00:36

This all sounds like a lot of overanalysis for not much.

I think (hope) the hobby is historical battle re-enactment.

maudelovesharold · 30/11/2024 00:46

Is it fencing?

crockofshite · 30/11/2024 00:55

maudelovesharold · 30/11/2024 00:46

Is it fencing?

I thought fencing too!

Or archery.

SleepPrettyDarling · 30/11/2024 01:02

Icedlatteplease · 29/11/2024 23:52

That's where we were!!! You'd think "see you about" and no contact for two months would do the job.

He didn't have to contact me personally at all for anything.

Now I either have to reply hey I'm even less interested, or ghost him which isn't a great look. I suppose the life is really busy tactic might work, but he knows I do make time for things/people i care about, so even that speaks volumes.

Then I think you need to take control and be clear. He’s not interested enough to ask you out, but interested enough in an optimistic snog. I guarantee you he’s not on Blokesnet ansgting about this.