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DP asking for unspecified financial commitment, need advice please.

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JustSomeRamdomGuy · 24/11/2024 20:49

Me and DP were planning to move in together for a while. Initially the plan was she would move into my place (she rents), but that turned out to not be possible logistically for us. So instead the plan became for us to buy together somewhere near where she currently lives. It wouldn't be ideal for me as it would mean 3 hours a day commute, but if it's what we need to do to be together then I'd be happy to do it.

It's an expensive area, and we'd need a big deposit to get anywhere decent. DP has a small amount of savings but not much. The idea would have been for me to sell my place and put all my savings in, which would mean I could contribute £500K deposit which would be enough for us to get something decent (hopefully forever home), and also means DP wouldn't have to cash out her own savings which are in an ISA so probably worth holding onto.

We talked about this previously a bunch of times and we always agreed on buying as tenants in common, so if things didn't work out for whatever reason then deposits are protected. The reason protecting the deposit is important to me is because I'm due to retire in 5 years and so need to have some financial security around that. The remaining equity would have been split 50/50, I agreed to pay majority of the mortgage as I earn a bit more, but I'm happy to do that to help DP build equity in the house so she also has some financial security if things went wrong. From my perspective we were 100% committed to each other and we've always considered ourselves life partners, but you can unfortunately never know the future.

About 3 months ago, DP had a sudden and very significant shift in her feelings about the relationship. She became very negative about me and told me several times that she didn't really like me anymore, she didn't enjoy spending time with me, she was thinking about leaving me etc. I still don't really understand where this came from or what triggered it, but obviously it was very upsetting and hurtful to hear.

A couple of weeks later, she wrote me a letter in which she again told me she was thinking about leaving me, but in this letter she also said she would consider staying with me provided we buy a house and agree to own everything 50/50 regardless of who has put what deposit in. I didn't find that very appealing given the context of the discussion (that she's already thinking about leaving). But we managed to agree that we could buy a cheaper place so we wouldn't need to put so much deposit in, and that way we could own it 50/50.

So we start looking at houses together. I feel pretty strongly that we really shouldn't be buying a house together if she's saying she doesn't like me anymore, and I suggest that we should rent for a short period and try to work on the relationship before deciding what to do next (also note we've never actually lived together before this point, so there are still some unknowns around that).

But DP is quite adamant that she isn't going to rent anymore and is going to buy a house either with or without me. DP also starts looking at some small flats for herself during this time, and tells me if she gets a place on her own then it won't be big enough for both of us and so it will mean she's definitely leaving me. DP does actually tentatively try to offer on a place for herself (she phones the agent in front of me), but gets outbid.

At one point DP does actually leave me, and we're split up for a coupe of weeks. I kept telling her I'm not going to give up, and I managed to convince her we should keep trying to work things out. So she (seemingly quite reluctantly) agrees to try again, but while also telling me several times that her heart isn't in it and she doesn't think there's any point.

We resume the house hunt. I'm still thinking it's a terrible idea, and I start having major anxiety about it. DP continues to make really negative and dispiriting comments every few days, e.g. saying she can't even name 3 things we have in common (I could probably name 50). Since we've agreed to look for a cheaper place, the forever home is now completely out of budget. So on top of everything else, it looks like I'm going to be buying a house that I don't even particularly like.

This goes on for another 3 weeks and we see about half a dozen places. Then DP gets angry at me for not liking any of the houses and basically says I've now got a 2 week deadline to find a place I'd be happy with.

This is pretty much the final straw for me. I tell DP that while I really want to buy a house with her at some point, I'm not going to do it unless we can work on getting our relationship to a better place first.

I suggest three alternatives which would allow us to move in together and work on things

  • Rent temporarily, work on things with a view to buying in 6 months or a year
  • I can buy the house outright, she can live there for free. If we work things out then when we get married in a couple of years (as was the plan) then it would become half hers anyway. If not, she'll have saved a bunch of money for her own deposit
  • I'll help her to buy her own place and I'll move in there with her. I can pay for renovations etc, or help out a bit with the deposit if she's short. If we buy a place together later she can choose whether to sell it or rent it out

DP isn't interested in even discussing any of the alternatives and tells me pretty much on the spot that it's over. This is about a month ago, and I've still been trying to convince her not to give up and that we can find a way through this. She has been absolutely adamant that she doesn't want to be with me, and has again been (in my opinion) frequently quite unkind with her words.

She is very angry and feels that I somehow betrayed her by not buying a house with her. But in reality we would almost certainly be going ahead with a purchase together now if she hadn't repeatedly told me she was thinking of leaving, and basically just started trashing the relationship seemingly out of nowhere. We'd talked about buying a house together almost since the beginning of the relationship and it was something that we both always wanted.

Anyway, in perhaps a final twist, she's recently softened a little and now says that she might reconsider if I can make a "sizeable" financial commitment (in her words, equivalent to a house). We already discussed and agreed previously that we would join finances and have a shared current account covering all outgoings/expenses (again prorated with me contributing more). The only thing that wouldn't go into the joint account would be our individual pension contributions. Given that, I'm not really sure what else I can offer? What does a "financial commitment equivalent to a house" even look like? I've asked DP to suggest some ideas but she's adamant that it's me that needs to figure it out (and again, there's a looming deadline).

I also can't shake my own feeling that DP has been quite unreasonable throughout this whole thing. The frequent threats to leave and forced deadlines etc have felt to me borderline abusive given the circumstances. And the current conversation is uncomfortably close to sounding like "I'm leaving you unless you give me lots of money".

Hoping someone might have some suggestions or general advice to share. I'm feeling quite broken after this whole ordeal and don't even know what to think anymore.

OP posts:
Dweetfidilove · 24/11/2024 21:18

Sir! 😒.

Give yourself a sharp slap to return your (not so) common sense!

AlertCat · 24/11/2024 21:19

How long have you been together? I’m guessing you don’t have children together. Does either of you have children?

But, you know what? It doesn’t matter. She’s awful. Leave her and keep your money and your current home. I’m so sorry

TwistedWonder · 24/11/2024 21:20

Winter2020 · 24/11/2024 21:16

Funny how her "strong traditional views" result is her being hundreds of thousands of £££ up.

I wonder if she would be so "traditional" if she had 500k and you nothing. I doubt it. I bet she'd be a lot more modern then.

She is taking you for an absolute fool.

Absolutely this. Funny how her ‘strong traditional views’ involve her rinsing you for half a bar and she won’t consider anything fairer and more realistic .

Wake the fuck up or risk losing your chances of a comfortable retirement to a woman who has shown she’s more interested in your bank balance than you.

If the roles were reversed, you’d be getting called a freeloading cock lodger

twentysevendresses · 24/11/2024 21:23

Hahahahaha ffs 😂🤦‍♀️

DeliciousApples · 24/11/2024 21:26

I got as far as three hours commute and thought nope.

Don't do it. She's not worth it. She's after your money.

SanctuaryCity · 24/11/2024 21:32

I can’t believe anyone would be this stupid. Why would you even consider staying with someone who treats you so badly?

healthybychristmas · 24/11/2024 21:32

You would have to be absolutely insane to go with what she wants.

You are so close to retirement and you are financially secure. For the love of God don't do anything to jinx that.

She treats you badly and wants your money. Do you really think there is a happy future with someone like that? Not only that you've got to live in an area that's very inconvenient for you! You must be absolutely mad to think this is going to work for you

Northernlassie123 · 24/11/2024 21:33

If this is a true story it sounds like a scam. It’s like you have to pay her to be in a relationship. Honestly please don’t you could end up homeless.
You sound decent and kind there will be someone else out there for you.

MitochondriaUnited · 24/11/2024 21:33

She has quite strongly (from my perspective) traditional views of what commitment means, and thinks that any kind of arrangement made to mitigate the potential disaster of a future separation just means you're being "one foot in, one foot out".

Then what she wants is marriage.

Is that what you want @JustSomeRamdomGuy ?

Jazzjazzjazz · 24/11/2024 21:36

JustSomeRamdomGuy · 24/11/2024 21:12

I did not expect such strong responses to this 😯

For the record, I absolutely do not think that DP is a gold digger (although I do agree she is acting a bit like one). She is in general a good person and prior to this episode has been a good partner.

She has quite strongly (from my perspective) traditional views of what commitment means, and thinks that any kind of arrangement made to mitigate the potential disaster of a future separation just means you're being "one foot in, one foot out".

I think she wants to leave you, but she feels she’s deserves something from the relationship. Sadly I do think she is a gold digger of sorts, in that she may stay for a while, but ultimately plans to leave, with more than she put in, maybe because she feels it’s owed to her. After all shes said, you’d be very stupid to agree to any financial situation that gives her the ability to take half when she hasn’t put in half, even if you do decide to give it a go and move in together, unless of course you don’t care about her leaving and taking some of your money with her

Busywithsomething · 24/11/2024 21:36

She sounds like hard work. If I were you I'd do a runner.

Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free

TheCatterall · 24/11/2024 21:37

@JustSomeRamdomGuy I’m pointing to the hills and handing you running shoes.

no one should buy a house together if the relationship isn’t rock solid.

it sounds like she’s pretty much bullying you and doing the ‘if you loved me you’d…’. It didn’t work on me when I was 17 and Mr McNotSoDreamt suggested I do naughty things if I loved him in his ford capri on his parents drive on a freezing January night and I’m hoping it won’t work with you..

Good luck but I don’t think this is salvageable and really when someone’s been blowing hot and cold like this do you still trust her? Character assassinations etc.. I’d not trust her one jot. This sounds like manipulation.

Normallynumb · 24/11/2024 21:39

This is not a relationship. She doesn't even like you, she just likes your money
Stop trying to please her, you never will.
Trust your gut feeling.
Buy the house you want at the price you want and get rid of this millstone around your neck.

Wherearemymarbles · 24/11/2024 21:40

Having read your post and reply its quite clear you are not right in the head
A fool and his money are soon parted and all that.
of course she is after your money and you have to be absolutely stupid not to realise this
she has literally told you she doesnt like you and you are totally not listening

what is wrong with you??

somenonsense · 24/11/2024 21:42

If this is real, I suggest you seek counseling for your law self esteem.

Why don't you know that you deserve better than this? You deserve someone who likes you and wants to live with you.

Don't buy a house with her, and certainly not one near her work.

Break up. Find someone else.

TillyKister · 24/11/2024 21:42

She's telling you in no uncertain terms that she doesn't want to be with you, doesn't even like you... She's said this for quite a while, it's not just an off the cuff angry or annoyed comment.
Of course she wants money from you. She's got it all worked out, you're just trying to keep her no matter what.

Pick up your self respect, grow a pair and end this now... You won't though, so we'll see you back on here saying you've been fleeced, and dumped. 🙄

Wayk · 24/11/2024 21:42

Do not walk RUN. This woman is only after your money. Stsy where you are. Do NOT move.

custardpyjamas · 24/11/2024 21:43

She says she doesn't want to be with you, but might stay if you throw a lot of money at it. And you are considering it? Why? If she doesn't want you unless you effectively give her a huge chunk of money it is not any sort of love, look after yourself and keep your money. If that's a deal breaker for her so be it.

TheFormidableMrsC · 24/11/2024 21:43

If you marry this woman you will lose everything. How can you not see this? If the situation were reversed, everybody would be screaming "cocklodger". She's told you she doesn't like you. What she likes is the prospect of being able to take you to the cleaners. Do yourself a favour and end it. It's not worth destroying your life over.

Arlanymor · 24/11/2024 21:44

Why do you want to be with someone who says they don’t like you? Please wake up and smell the coffee. Find someone else who values you and doesn’t treat you as a cash cow.

bluebee17 · 24/11/2024 21:44

Run fast!!

CheekyHobson · 24/11/2024 21:46

What the fuck are you thinking, man?

gamerchick · 24/11/2024 21:46

Dawevi · 24/11/2024 20:52

Oh come on, if this is real then you know you need to walk away. She's just after your 500k! She sounds awful and the relationship is dead. Cut your losses and move on.

Yep.

Fucking hell dude if you're for real. I refuse to believe anyone is this damp. Tell her to fuck off.

Iwilladmit · 24/11/2024 21:47

pompey38 · 24/11/2024 20:56

You don’t need to think , you need to run , as fast as you can. She tells you loud and clear and you’re not listening

Why did you quote the OP? It just wastes space.

Ohnobackagain · 24/11/2024 21:48

@JustSomeRamdomGuy do not buy anything with her. End the relationship.

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